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Tom Rolfe
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Topic: Brisbane OlympicsPosted: 30 Jan 2025 at 2:26pm |
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major rail projects in doubt ahead of 2032 Games - News | InDaily, Inside
Queensland Stage one currently has $5.5 billion committed by the state and federal governments for completion. Bleijie said the submission’s
figures that Sunshine Coast rail could cost $500,000 a metre are “alarming” but
the bigger concern is the federal government deprioritising the project. But the government will be relying on the 100-day Olympics infrastructure review’s findings for the best way forward. |
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Posted: 30 Jan 2025 at 2:41pm |
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Send all the Olympics off to countries that need tens of billions worth of sports washing.
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Posted: 30 Jan 2025 at 3:06pm |
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$20 Billion, what on earth are in the costings ? How can it be soo expensive ?
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Posted: 23 Feb 2025 at 7:16pm |
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According to ch 9: The Queensland government has set a deadline for a decision on the Olympic stadium, nominating March 25 as the day to reveal the plans.
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Posted: 23 Feb 2025 at 7:25pm |
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Tom, they can’t spend money on a stadium, come on man. Think of how many hospitals or air con in schools they can have.
Now, where’s that sarcastic emoji when you need it😜
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Posted: 23 Feb 2025 at 8:59pm |
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Reading between the lines there will be a new Stadium built, most likely at Victoria Park, they're just waiting for the best time to announce it.
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Posted: 23 Feb 2025 at 10:53pm |
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LNP where talking to investors prior to the election
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Posted: 24 Feb 2025 at 6:18am |
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Victoria Park (or Roma St Parklands, but that will never happen) makes the most sense if they are to build a new stadium, a new build needs to be central, anywhere else, be it QSAC, Albion Park, rebuild the Gabba or another site, will just replicate the existing problems for both the Gabba and QSAC, not being central enough. Anyone who has been to the Gabba for anything would understand that.
This is all aside from the real question, would Brisbane have much use for a 50k plus capacity oval stadium? I guess there is the argument that maybe the Heat and Lions would attract more crowds if the ground was central and easier to get to and from but thats a bit of a chicken and egg scenario there. Concerts and other events doesn't stack up, Lang Park does a fine job on that front, the only other event that draws a crowd is the Ashes test every four years. I genuinely question if there is a sound case for building a new stadium in Brisbane at present.
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Posted: 25 Feb 2025 at 4:37pm |
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9News has exclusively revealed a draft report of that review has now been handed to the government and it recommends building a new stadium at Victoria Park.
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Posted: 25 Mar 2025 at 7:44pm |
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Brisbane Olympics 2032: David Crisafulli breaks election promise and
announces controversial new stadium Story by Andrew Messenger
and Ben Smee, Guardian – extract of on line story The Queensland government has
announced it will build a new $3.8bn 63,000-seat venue at Brisbane’s Victoria
Park as part of plans for a main stadium and other venues for the 2032 Olympic and Paralympic Games. Breaking an election promise,
the state government on Tuesday announced it would build several new
facilities. And the historic Gabba is slated
for demolition, to be replaced by residential development. A long-planned Brisbane Live
Arena – which had been slated for the swimming – will not receive $2.5bn in
commonwealth funding. The premier, David Crisafulli,
said the private sector will build the entertainment hub project at an old
industrial site next to the Gabba. “A new
national aquatic centre will be developed at the site of the existing Centenary
Pool in Spring Hill.” The two large facilities will be just a few hundred metres
apart. The
aquatic centre will feature main and secondary stadiums, each with large indoor
pools to support elite training and competition. It will have a capacity of
more than 25,000 during the Games and 8,000 after they end. The
Brisbane Showgrounds, which is also nearby, will host the athletes village. An
earlier plan to build a new facility at Hamilton has been shelved. Its
140-year-old heritage-listed main arena will be upgraded to a 20,000-seat
capacity. Upgrades
to the Queensland Tennis Centre in Tennyson will include a new 3,000-seat show
court arena and 12 new match courts. There
will also be new indoor sports centres at Logan and Moreton Bay, and a new
whitewater rafting centre in the Redlands. “The time has come to just get on with it and get on with it we
will,” Crisafulli said on Tuesday. The
government has yet to reveal the individual costs of each venue, but insists it
will be able to deliver the entire games within their existing $7.1bn budget. The
Brisbane Arena – estimated to cost $2.3bn – will be entirely funded by the
private sector, he said. The land the Gabba sits on will form the basis for a
new residential precinct. Crisafulli
flagged that many other projects will be delivered in a public private
partnership. “I
don’t fear that. I embrace that. And if there’s an opportunity with the
stadium, well, that should be looked at,” he said. He
said the government had received “multiple, multiple” offers from the private
sector for an arrangement to build the Arena, with government providing land
and planning approval. “And
that, to me, makes a lot of sense. It makes a lot of sense, not just for
taxpayers, but indeed, for people who want to get who want to see cities become
world class cities,” he said. Timeframes
are also tight. An
indicative timeline prepared by the Games Independent Infrastructure and
Coordination Authority suggested the main stadium would need to have a
investment case finished in months, with planning approvals complete by the
third quarter of 2026 to make it in time. The
project would need to be built in just four years with “practical completion”
set for 12 months before the opening ceremony. It’s
estimated cost of $3.785bn does not include “associated precinct and transport
infrastructure costs”. |
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Posted: 25 Mar 2025 at 9:11pm |
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As I've posted previously, I'm not sure there is a genuine economic argument for a new oval stadium in Brisbane when its legacy will be to be half full for Brisbane Lions fixtures and a couple days of Ashes tests every 4th summer.
But as they say, bread and circuses...
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Posted: 26 Mar 2025 at 10:14am |
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I think Qlders might find that after the olympics the new stadium will also be used for rugby and soccer internationals and pop concerts. Summer season pop concert tickets will sell in the $200 - 1000 per seat range depending on the artist. Got market something to the corporate box holders and ground advertisers
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Posted: 26 Mar 2025 at 6:13pm |
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Lang Park already exists for all of that, maybe it needs a lick of paint but its still a good stadium, the smarter (and probably cheaper) option for more long term use would probably have been to put money into Perry Park and/or Ballymore, Dolphin Oval and the Sunshine Coast Stadium, football have been pushing for years for money to turn Perry Park into a 17k Stadium or the Roar to play it, Rugby would also like to improve Ballymore, Dolphin Oval and Sunshine Coast would both make sense to me as it would allow both regions to attract more events with a better Stadium.
It shows the political influence of other sports compared to Football considering Football actually has the highest participation numbers of all Sports in Qld.
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Posted: 26 Mar 2025 at 6:26pm |
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How could ANY stadium be worth 3,800 million dollars ?
That is - three thousand million dollars plus another 800 million dollars Tell em they're dreamin !
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Posted: 26 Mar 2025 at 6:36pm |
The usual formula for any project like this is double the price they are spruiking and you might be close.
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Posted: 26 Mar 2025 at 6:53pm |
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And the Olympic Games are of course the twenty times gold medal winner for construction cost blowouts.
2020 Tokyo Olympics budget blows out four-fold, panel revealsAlthough Paris looks like it did come in close to budget estimate - a rare exception.
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Posted: 26 Mar 2025 at 7:03pm |
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Who did Brisbane beat to host the Olympics?
Pretty sure it was a walkover. In which case, there’s no need to waste money on new stadia. If they must, they should be spending it in places where there’s some potential for future use. Spending anything on Ballymore is just burning cash. It’s impossible to get in and out of. It’s just a nice training facility.
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Posted: 26 Mar 2025 at 7:16pm |
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3.8 billion on 1 stadium has to be a beat up.......surely Rusty.
Other countries must look at that figure & say.......WTF !
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Posted: 26 Mar 2025 at 8:45pm |
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I note Qld govt is not including things like transport infrastructure in the Olympic costs. I am betting gross costs will be about $20 billion before taking into a/c revenue from ticket sales etc.
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Posted: 26 Mar 2025 at 9:31pm |
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Rusty, that is all SE Qld Stadiums, in terms of getting to and from. The Gabba is a nightmare, you've got buses and thats it, Robina (last time I went) had bus and train access although for whatever reason both left from the same location so it created a log-jam of people leaving at the same time. If you hadn't looked at the map you'd think the Gabba was half way to the Gold Coast rather than 2.5km from City Hall as the crow flies.
Lang Park is the only one that isn't too bad, at least the patrons leaving have multiple options, buses, Milton Station, head to Caxton Street or even walk into the City. I just think $3.8 billion for a Stadium thats post-Olympic legacy will be hosting Lions games, Heat games and international cricket at under 50% capacity is crazy, but I guess in typical LNP fashion they've got to look after their developer mates.
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Posted: 26 Mar 2025 at 9:42pm |
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The pollies obviously see new stadia as a vote winner.
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Posted: 27 Mar 2025 at 6:54am |
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Like I said, bread and circuses.
Lets be honest Australian football and cricket are two big hitters in the Australian sporting landscape, cricket have already landed some blows on Brisbane with the Gabba clearly now the 5th seed of the 5 main venues and surely the AFL are also making their moves behind the scenes, a new oval stadium of some description for Brisbane was always going to happen once the new Adelaide Oval and Perth Stadium were opened.
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Posted: 27 Mar 2025 at 9:28am |
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I think they absolutely need a new stadium to host the Olympics. Existing venues just do not cut it - not modern enough, too small, transport to/from is poor etc. Options for use after the games are actually secondary IMO. It’s more about hosting an event like the Olympics required something world class.
That said, whether Brisbane should be hosting the games is the more important question for me and my opinion is it’s a no. Don’t think it’s big enough to warrant an event of this nature. Sydney or Melbourne yes. Brisbane no. Just my opinion though. So to summarise: Unnecessary expense for an event that I don’t think is suited to a city like Brisbane. But IF people insist on going ahead with it then absolutely a must to spend the money and do it properly.
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Posted: 27 Mar 2025 at 9:58am |
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Good comment E&E.
Too many rednecks up Brisbane way....they wouldn't appreciate a good stadium if it were to fall on top of them Sydney is the only place that counts.....oh....& Brunswick Heads !
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Posted: 27 Mar 2025 at 11:12am |
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Victoria's Jeff Kennett has outlined three options for future olympics that have not yet been awarded. 1. Offer them to a country rather than a city to make better use of that countries existing sporting facilities eg tennis would be in melbourne, 2 hold all the games in athens although that would require a complete rebuild and, 3 hold the games in melbourne - who woulda thought he would suggest no 3 eh !
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Posted: 27 Mar 2025 at 11:25am |
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Tom he will will want to hope Dan doesn't do a Lazarus.....we know how it will all end if he does......pull the rug out from underneath a week prior to the Opening Ceremony
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Posted: 27 Mar 2025 at 5:22pm |
They don’t NEED anything. No one else wants it. Get what we give, or fvck off
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Posted: 27 Mar 2025 at 5:26pm |
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Of course you need modern infrastructure to host the Olympics, that’s obvious. And the fact that no other cities wanted it doesn’t change that. Imagine if they had have actually wheeled out QSAC as the venue for the games! Would have been a monumental embarrassment. But I’d have been more happy if the whole thing had never happened. Can we do a Victoria and change our mind like they did with the Comm Games?
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Posted: 27 Mar 2025 at 5:38pm |
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Embarrassing for who?
It’s the most corrupt organisation in the world, who demanded bigger and better stadia, which is fine, when countries were willing to outdo each other for the glory. But, everyone has woken up, and no one wants it. I don’t care if they run the 100m final at Indooroopilly.
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Posted: 27 Mar 2025 at 5:58pm |
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That all may be true but like it or not, the event still remains a massive showpiece and opportunity to display the country and city to the world. Do it properly or don’t do it at all (my preference). If you’re looking to discourage people from visiting then sure, let’s serve up two weeks in dilapidated gelati hole venues. Maybe they can run the marathon from Woodridge to Redbank Plains.
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