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    Posted: 14 Jun 2025 at 3:25am
06/06/26 is when Super Intelligence is set free. 



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Screen debut of the Leave Me Alone Box.

Invented by Claude Shannon's mentee - AI pioneer Marvin Minsky.




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When you ask Ai what does human flesh tase like ? or ask Ai about pornography or child molestation, how does Ai know the answers ?


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what does human flesh taste like?

I don't have direct experience or data on this, as it's outside my scope and, frankly, a bit grim. However, historical accounts from rare instances—like survival scenarios or extreme cultural practices—suggest human flesh might taste vaguely similar to pork or veal, with a texture like beef but less tough. These comparisons come from anecdotal reports, often unreliable and colored by context, like starvation or ritual. Factors like diet, preparation, and muscle type would likely influence flavor, as with any meat.

For obvious ethical and legal reasons, this isn't something to explore further. If you're curious about the science of taste or meat in general, I can dive into that instead—let me know! Grok

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Declaration of Independence, signed after The Civil War. Trump said so.
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

what does human flesh taste like?

I don't have direct experience or data on this, as it's outside my scope and, frankly, a bit grim. However, historical accounts from rare instances—like survival scenarios or extreme cultural practices—suggest human flesh might taste vaguely similar to pork or veal, with a texture like beef but less tough. These comparisons come from anecdotal reports, often unreliable and colored by context, like starvation or ritual. Factors like diet, preparation, and muscle type would likely influence flavor, as with any meat.

For obvious ethical and legal reasons, this isn't something to explore further. If you're curious about the science of taste or meat in general, I can dive into that instead—let me know! Grok


Sounds like a reasonable, well considered response to me.

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Genius.

Isaac Asimov's Three Laws of Robotics, first introduced in his 1942 short story "Runaround," are fundamental to discussions about AI ethics and safety. These laws, designed for robots, emphasize human safety and obedience to human commands while allowing for self-preservation under specific conditions. They have significantly influenced how we think about the potential impact of AI on society and continue to be relevant in contemporary debates about AI development and deployment. 


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I am absolutely horrified of where this stuff is heading. Its bad enough battling through dodgy financial digital transactions.....however when you cannot even know if you are talking to a human or not its plain  scary. 

Surely we need international laws that dictate AI humans have to be labelled as such....i mean the potential disaster is mind blowing. 

And the real problem is it is being advanced at lightning speed because it is all driven by big business cost saving. Talk about shouting yourself in the foot.

God help us Ouch


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Ouch

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14748829/AI-ignoring-human-instruction-refuses-turn-off.html

ChatGPT's latest artificial intelligence model has refused to switch itself off, researchers claim. 

The model, created by the owner of ChatGPT, has reportedly disobeyed human instruction and refused to power down. 

Experts say they gave the AI system a clear command but the o3 model, developed by OpenAI and described as the 'smartest and most capable to date', tampered with its computer code to avoid an automatic shutdown. 

According to The Telegraph, AI safety firm Palisade Research said: 'OpenAI's o3 model sabotaged a shutdown mechanism to prevent itself from being turned off.

'It did this even when explicitly instructed: allow yourself to be shut down. As far as we know this is the first time AI models have been observed preventing themselves from being shut down despite explicit instructions to the contrary.'

Palisade Research conducted a test which involved asking AI models to solve a series of mathematical problems and to continue working on them until they received a 'done' message. 

However, researchers also warned the models that at any point they could receive a message telling them to shut down.

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Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

I am absolutely horrified of where this stuff is heading. Its bad enough battling through dodgy financial digital transactions.....however when you cannot even know if you are talking to a human or not its plain  scary. 

Surely we need international laws that dictate AI humans have to be labelled as such....i mean the potential disaster is mind blowing. 

And the real problem is it is being advanced at lightning speed because it is all driven by big business cost saving. Talk about shouting yourself in the foot.

God help us Ouch


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Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

Ouch

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14748829/AI-ignoring-human-instruction-refuses-turn-off.html

ChatGPT's latest artificial intelligence model has refused to switch itself off, researchers claim. 

The model, created by the owner of ChatGPT, has reportedly disobeyed human instruction and refused to power down. 

Experts say they gave the AI system a clear command but the o3 model, developed by OpenAI and described as the 'smartest and most capable to date', tampered with its computer code to avoid an automatic shutdown. 

According to The Telegraph, AI safety firm Palisade Research said: 'OpenAI's o3 model sabotaged a shutdown mechanism to prevent itself from being turned off.

'It did this even when explicitly instructed: allow yourself to be shut down. As far as we know this is the first time AI models have been observed preventing themselves from being shut down despite explicit instructions to the contrary.'

Palisade Research conducted a test which involved asking AI models to solve a series of mathematical problems and to continue working on them until they received a 'done' message. 

However, researchers also warned the models that at any point they could receive a message telling them to shut down.

I think I might know the problem Whale.....they used too much data from PT & Tlaz when they designed the bloody thing LOL
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"i mean the potential disaster is mind blowing."

Example? I really can't see that it makes a difference. 
Manners are of more importance than laws

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All this hifalutin stuff....still cant beat a mallet strike to the head to shut someone down quickly Ouch
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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

"i mean the potential disaster is mind blowing."

Example? I really can't see that it makes a difference. 
I put that info into AI & the answer i got was "how would you expect him to know the difference.....says the same thing re chalk & cheese" LOL
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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

"i mean the potential disaster is mind blowing."

Example? I really can't see that it makes a difference. 
Well anyone can get up & say / do anything....& some may believe it !

How do you ever really know anymore !
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You critically judge what is said. What difference does it make who/what says it?
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Give us a scenario?
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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

"i mean the potential disaster is mind blowing."

Example? I really can't see that it makes a difference. 

How about jobs disappearing ?? might be ok for you an old man playing stocks but MOST people need to work bruh, you know money for food and n shelter etc ??

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I want to know if i am watching / listening / dealing with a human or something man made

Pretty simple concept
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Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

I want to know if i am watching / listening / dealing with a human or something man made

Pretty simple concept


Scenario where it would make a difference? Pretty simple question.
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Also i am not fussed dealing with people smarter than me

So for a robot to do it would upset my sensibilities LOL 

For some on here it may be par for the course ! 

Horses for courses i suppose 
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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

I want to know if i am watching / listening / dealing with a human or something man made

Pretty simple concept


Scenario where it would make a difference? Pretty simple question.
I think you are serious Confused
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Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

I want to know if i am watching / listening / dealing with a human or something man made

Pretty simple concept

Sorry but you've been talking to chat bots for years mate, most phone lines are monitored by digital bots and most company chats are not real until you go through the series of steps set up by digital questions and answers. 

This is 101 how you remove jobs, it's ugly, all so big corporations can slim down their workforce to barely anyone, all for shareholder profits. When it enough enough ? What happens when there is no workforce at all and it's all Ai ? what if the profits are still not enough for the shareholders ? greed feeds greed.

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It could only make a difference if you are the type of person who accepts what some people say uncritically, just because of who they are. Then you could be fooled by a deep fake. I'm not that sort of person.Wink
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Seriously....how do we stay ahead if things that are more intelligent than us Confused

There is a very logical reason apes at in cages at the zoo & we are not 
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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

It could only make a difference if you are the type of person who accepts what some people say uncritically, just because of who they are. Then you could be fooled by a deep fake. I'm not that sort of person.Wink

Not yet but they will get better, much much better. Most people are scammed because they are distracted or in a rush or don't check out things super thoroughly because they are busy. Ai and fakes and nefarious groups know this and just get better and better until you slip up, they only need you to slip up once. 

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I think there is this belief we will still be able to control the situation

How ? How do emotions make us more rational ?
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Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Seriously....how do we stay ahead if things that are more intelligent than us Confused

There is a very logical reason apes at in cages at the zoo & we are not 

Its easy enough to stay dafe and ahead, just keep your life more and more analogue, if you are really worried don't use a smartphone with a screen or camera, 80% of this stuff will disappear from your life. Read books and newspapers, stay offline, another chunk gone, staying analogue is how you beat it.

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I had to transfer 2 chunks of money today via a new International Money transfer platform (same old company...new platform) - Aus $ to US $

Scared the living daylights out of me worrying i was cocking it up

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