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    Posted: 19 Mar 2023 at 8:10pm
"There can be no ignoring the extraordinary intergenerational inequity inherent in our present tax system," Ken Henry said.

"This generation of young workers, weighed down with HECS debt, burdened with the responsibility of repaying a mountain of public debt and dealing with the costs of climate change, is finding it increasingly difficult to buy a home, having been priced out of the market by those who have already retired or are now moving into retirement, those who are sitting on tax-free capital gains in houses that are exempt from the pension assets test, those who are receiving refundable franking credits on share portfolios and a blend of publicly funded and tax-free private pensions from assets accumulated in lightly taxed self-managed superannuation funds."

At some point, perhaps even already, the intergenerational social compact must surely fracture," he warned.

A quarry and an unfair tax system: Why is this the economy young Australians are inheriting?


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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

"There can be no ignoring the extraordinary intergenerational inequity inherent in our present tax system," Ken Henry said.

"This generation of young workers, weighed down with HECS debt, burdened with the responsibility of repaying a mountain of public debt and dealing with the costs of climate change, is finding it increasingly difficult to buy a home, having been priced out of the market by those who have already retired or are now moving into retirement, those who are sitting on tax-free capital gains in houses that are exempt from the pension assets test, those who are receiving refundable franking credits on share portfolios and a blend of publicly funded and tax-free private pensions from assets accumulated in lightly taxed self-managed superannuation funds."

At some point, perhaps even already, the intergenerational social compact must surely fracture," he warned.

A quarry and an unfair tax system: Why is this the economy young Australians are inheriting?



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I'll grab the popcorn and a deck chair and patiently await Bobbys arrival in this thread
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Ken Henry was appointed as a side kick by both Paul Keating & Julia Gillard in his time in the public service, also was an advocate for climate change, and at one time even as a high ranking public servant bagged the Howard government’s economic  policy just before a federal election. If he had not been a public servant , on such a high income, I reckon he would have stood for federal parliament for the ALP.
Like Keating he is a blast from the past and has had better days. 
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A little disappointing to be honest Robert, I wish I hadn't bothered with the popcorn now.
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Bobby concedes that all the things Henry says are true.Wink
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Sydney’s rich are locking out the rest of us

The city’s beach and harbourside suburbs have imposed a ‘class tax’ on property that imposes social segregation.

Aaron Patrick
https://www.afr.com/property/residential/sydney-s-rich-are-locking-out-the-rest-of-us-20230309-p5cqmw


Sydney’s beauty is mostly reserved for the affluent. Those who live next to the harbour, the beaches and national parks pay to keep it that way.

They use councils to restrict the construction of apartments, blocking new middle and working-class residents from sharing their suburbs.

The egregious offenders are local governments representing Sydney’s most-desirable suburbs: Randwick, Waverley, the Northern Beaches and Hunters Hill, says economist Peter Tulip, a top housing analyst.

In each area, apartments are overpriced by 40 per cent to 50 per cent because of regulatory limits on construction, says a report published this week by Tulip and the Centre for Independent Studies.

Across Sydney, Tulip calculates the average apartment cost $594,000 to build last financial year – and then sold for $1.01 million. The 41 per cent premium is referred to as a “zoning tax” by academics.

You could call it a class tax too. It is paid by the wealthy, often on behalf of their children, and is the price of keeping out undesirable neighbours.

“Some planning restrictions reflect desire for social segregation by affluent residents,” Tulip writes in Where should we build new housing? Better targets for local councils.

“They have occupied the best real estate and do not wish to share it with renters, apartment dwellers or other newcomers.”

Tulip hints at a darker motivation behind the problem – one that should have no place in a cosmopolitan city.

“This may have an ethnic dimension,” he writes. “Central governments, with broader constituencies, are more egalitarian and supportive of desegregation.”

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The cost of housing may be the greatest challenge to social mobility and equality in Australia. It enforces geographic segregation across generations, perpetuates economic advantage and denies millions of families easy access to good schools, high-paying jobs, beaches, parks, public transport and all the other infrastructure of modern city life.

The Greater Cities Commission, which is responsible for setting housing-growth targets for councils, is ineffective, Tulip says. The state government pays little interest, he says. No one is enforcing the targets, which are too low anyway.

The commission’s chief commissioner, Geoff Roberts, would not do an interview on Thursday. A commission spokesman said Greater Sydney had built 96 per cent of the homes set by official targets for 2016 to 2021.

Minister for Cities Rob Stokes criticised Tulip’s name-and-shaming of councils, which he said compared smaller inner-city councils with large ones on the urban fringe.

“He’s not comparing apples with apples,” he said. “Obviously we need more housing everywhere but it’s not as simple as that.”

These men share responsibility for the problem. They should know that small changes can have a big impact.

Tulip calculates a 1 per cent increase in the number of dwellings would reduce prices by 2.4 per cent. A 16 per cent increase in houses and apartments would cut prices 41 per cent.

Councils, serving the interests of existing residents, cannot be trusted to approve the numbers of apartments asked of them. They should lose that power, for the greater good.Evil Smile


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The cost of housing may be the greatest challenge to social mobility and equality in Australia. It enforces geographic segregation across generations 


It’s always been that way hasn’t it?

I grew up on the leafy north shore. In the late 80s Had to move away to the north west to secure a property.  Not a 5 bedroom McMansion or a trendy inner city address but a 2 bedroom unit with extended travel time to work.
I dont see the desire to do that from the youngsters  that I know  
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No, it hasn’t….

What’s a 2 bedder in north west worth today?
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North west and west, there’s an abundance of property below 400k
Even more below 500k
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I bought my first home in crows nest, it’s worth circa $2M today.
Had 40% deposit, and repayments were 1/6 of my income.

My kids have zero chance of entering the market on those terms.
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Ok, I get that but why should you g kids walk straight into Crows Nest, a great suburb that offers a lot.
I grew up in Pymble and even today can’t afford to go back.

I guess it comes down to reasonable expectations.

The first place my wife and I bought was a 2 bedroom unit. We rented the spare room to a friend to cover part of the loan.

My daughters 18. I’ve encouraged her to start putting only aside now so she’s ready to go in the future
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 My old Bronte home would sell for five or six mill, today. 

 
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