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furious
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Topic: 2020-21 First Season SiresPosted: 18 Oct 2020 at 7:13pm |
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This crop of sires are making their presence felt already. With Flying Artie, Shalaa, Capitalist, Frosted and now Odyssey Moon already having a winner on the books. Odyssey Moon being the odd man out with only 34 foals in his first crop he has little chance of figuring in the ranks but the above listed sires all have good size crops which could push them to a win. Add to them Star Turn and Extreme Choice who have promising stakes placed types out already. Could be an exciting season for two year old and first season sire honours.
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Posted: 27 Oct 2020 at 7:10pm |
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7 stallions are off the mark.
First Season SiresSire Rnrs Wnrs Wins Wnrs/Wins Money |
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Posted: 27 Oct 2020 at 7:11pm |
Two Year Old Sires by WinnersSire Rnrs Wnrs Wins Wnrs/Wins Money |
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Posted: 28 Oct 2020 at 5:43pm |
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They do look like an excellent bunch. I've sung the praises of Flying Artie on here before and his pre-Christmas performance is very encouraging for stock that look more Autumn than Spring to me. Now has a winner and a black-type performer from only three runners. Extreme Choice is doing amazing things from only 48 first crop foals, the Shalaas have hit the ground running and Capitalist has a winner (although maybe they'd want a little more?). The Star Turns sold well at the Breeze-Ups, the Maurices are encouraging for a stallion that needs more time and Winning Rupert had both Ballarat clockwise jumpout winners. Only real surprise to me is to see Frosted at the top - lovely hose but didn't seem to be a source of pre-Christmas speed.
Swlfishly I'm hoping Artie can get a Group 2 winner in the Maribyrnong Plate next Tuesday. |
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Posted: 28 Oct 2020 at 8:31pm |
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Good luck robbo. A friend has an Extreme Choice and is cheering each new development there.
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Posted: 06 Nov 2020 at 2:38pm |
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How well is this crop going? G3 Ottawa Stakes yesterday - Rich Enuff (1st), Shalaa (2nd), Flying Artie (5th, beaten 1.3L). A Capitalist is favourite for tomorrow's Golden Gift and is joined by an American Pharoah and a Shalaa.
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Posted: 06 Nov 2020 at 3:06pm |
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Rich Enuff is second season, he has 3yo's racing.
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Posted: 06 Nov 2020 at 3:25pm |
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Oh, sorry. My bad.
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Posted: 07 Nov 2020 at 1:51pm |
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Star Turn off the mark with Miss Hipstar winning impressively at Doomben.
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Posted: 01 Dec 2020 at 9:47am |
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Sorry this is a bit off subject, but I thought more might see it in this thread. Does anyone know where The Last Lion, by Choisir, is now ? I have searched the Darley/Godolphin stallion rosters but cant find him ?
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Posted: 01 Dec 2020 at 10:43am |
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Standing in England. Served 1 year down here.
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Posted: 01 Dec 2020 at 1:36pm |
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Yeah but where in England ??
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Posted: 01 Dec 2020 at 1:40pm |
The Last Lion (IRE)Choisir (AUS) - Mala Mala (IRE), by Brief Truce 2014, b, entered stud 2017. 2020 FEE:€7,500 Standing at Kildangan Stud |
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Posted: 01 Dec 2020 at 5:02pm |
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SC, I looked at Kildangan,s stallion roster for 2020 and he wasnt on it ?? Maybe I looked at 2021 ? instead of 2020 Honestly tho, I did look at Kildangan and couldnt find him, which was what made me ask on here.Thank You both for this. |
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Posted: 01 Dec 2020 at 5:35pm |
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No, I just re checked Ireland/Kildangan, England/Dalham Hall, and France/Haras De something, and he isnt there. Which set me on this quest in the first place ?
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Posted: 01 Dec 2020 at 6:58pm |
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Hedgeholme stud.
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Posted: 01 Dec 2020 at 7:10pm |
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My understanding is Kildangan (Darley) 2020, Hedgeholmes 2021. Turkey possibly next.
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Posted: 01 Dec 2020 at 8:25pm |
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Where is Hedgeholmes ???? Just wondering, with Choisir recently retired, be nice to know where his European Group 1 winning son actually is. |
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Posted: 02 Dec 2020 at 12:18am |
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Posted: 02 Dec 2020 at 10:36am |
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Thank You all for finding him for me. Lets hope he can do better at a smaller place without the competition of those bigger name stallions, and he doesnt end up in Turkey. Thanks again SC and Brudder.
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Posted: 02 Dec 2020 at 10:43am |
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Posted: 23 Jan 2021 at 1:06pm |
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Flying Artie is, er, flying. His stock have sold for below average prices both last year and at MM this year, so quite a few may have picked up a bargain.
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Posted: 23 Jan 2021 at 3:51pm |
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Going rate for a winner is $90k. Slightly less ($85k) for a place-getter.
$78k avg for a stakes (incl. RL) runner.
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Posted: 23 Jan 2021 at 5:04pm |
Pretty excited to have a mare in foal to Flying Artie this year. They’re only going to get better in the autumn and next year. |
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Posted: 23 Jan 2021 at 5:14pm |
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Well is appears you're investing your trailing commissions well Robbo.
![]() Love the Better Boy dupe on Artie's female side and agree his stock should improve as older horses over 1400 to 1600m and perhaps further depending on the mare.
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Posted: 23 Jan 2021 at 5:17pm |
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Not a bad day all around with Counterattack now providing a winner. Extreme Choice also had a winner and Capitalist and Flying Artie. This is a very strong crop of stallions.
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Posted: 23 Jan 2021 at 5:19pm |
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I marked a few Flying Artie's to follow and Artorius and Harlem Groove were two of them. Just didn't have the sense to put them in the TBV comp.. I did put two in the comps last year but I don't think either have a name yet!
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Posted: 23 Jan 2021 at 5:31pm |
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Bit like me with the SA "Discreet" family Furious. Took quite a few who can't go, and the ones I decided against just keep winning.
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Posted: 23 Jan 2021 at 11:46pm |
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I've been pumping FArtie's tyres up on this site for over 2 years. Unfotunately the 1 mare I breed with in my retirement years is not a good match even at the 2020 gift fee of $10k
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Posted: 24 Jan 2021 at 10:24am |
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It's that so many of them have started so well Glencoe which is really amazing. Very few sire crops throw up two first season stallions with four winners by the end of January. Let alone the number which have winners on the board. Extreme Choice wouldn't have been one which I thought would be one of them with his smaller crop but obviously he has the punch to throw a winner.
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