Helmet

i mentioned it in the sons of E&E thread.

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I have heard from a few sources that his progeny are proving as difficult as he was

Achi Baba is clearly his best offspring so far but is yet to win.

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Bay filly 2014

Helmet Chestnut 2008	Exceed and Excel Bay 2000	Danehill Bay 1986	Danzig Bay 1977	Northern Dancer Pas de Nom	1961 1968	2-d 7-a
			Razyana Bay 1981	His Majesty Spring Adieu	1968 1974	4-d 2-d
		Patrona Chestnut 1994	Lomond Bay 1980	Northern Dancer My Charmer	1961 1969	2-d 13-c
			Gladiolus Chestnut 1974	Watch Your Step Back Britches	1956 1964	6-a 23-b
	Accessories Brown 2003	Singspiel Bay 1992	In the Wings Bay 1986	Sadler's Wells High Hawk	1981 1980	5-h 9-e
			Glorious Song Bay 1976	Halo Ballade	1969 1972	2-d 12-c
		Anna Matrushka Chestnut 1984	Mill Reef Bay 1968	Never Bend Milan Mill	1960 1962	19-b 22-d
			Anna Paola Chestnut 1978	Prince Ippi Antwerpen	1969 1972	1-s 7-f
Cercle d'Amour Bay 2003	Storm Cat Bay or brown 1983	Storm Bird Bay 1978	Northern Dancer Bay 1961	Nearctic Natalma	1954 1957	14-c 2-d
			South Ocean Bay 1967	New Providence Shining Sun	1956 1962	9-d 4-j
		Terlingua Chestnut 1976	Secretariat Chestnut 1970	Bold Ruler Somethingroyal	1954 1952	8-d 2-s
			Crimson Saint Chestnut 1969	Crimson Satan Bolero Rose	1959 1958	26> 8-c
	Warm Mood Bay 1989	Alydar Chestnut 1975	Raise a Native Chestnut 1961	Native Dancer Raise You	1950 1946	5-f 8-f
			Sweet Tooth Bay 1965	On-And-On Plum Cake	1956 1958	23-b 9-c
		Summer Mood Bay 1981	Raja Baba Bay 1968	Bold Ruler Missy Baba	1954 1958	8-d 3-l
			Fairly Regal Bay or brown 1974	Viceregal Fair	1966 1966	10-c 8-j

Ancestor duplications:

Northern Dancer

5m,5m x 4m

Bold Ruler

x 5m,5m

Could end up doing the reverse of the numerous NH guns that flop down here. Might get back to the UK after Christmas and be too valuable to return to our shores.

Quinella at Bath. 

It this was his first crop (prior to his Australian runners) we'd all of been going mad for Helmets.  This is the strangest difference I've ever seen.

There is nowhere else in the world who can produce precocious 2yo runners like our stallions can.  Our 2nd rate 2yo sires would dominate early 2yo racing overseas.  

Another winner - 

Couldn't find Helmet so put it in the worst season of first season sires instead.  If Helmet had started in England perhaps he would have a better reputation.

Aurelius wrote: My Smokey to finish in the top 3 of first year stallions; But where are his progeny? Are they hiding? Would like a few more runners at this stage of the season Mr Helmet and notice you don't have anything nominated for the Blue Diamond.

Good call.

I knew he had it in him it was just a time factor.

Been following him since i got a share in a helmet, 25-1 on betfair was a nice pickup. Helmet going well overseas. Starting to get some winners here.

Does he produce big clunky types at all?

From what Ive seen he can throw some different types, I like his taller leggier yearlings, not sure how many 2 year olds he'll throw but his older horses seem to get better with time. He might end up being a better NH horse for some reason. Thunder snow's action works on Turf and Dirt so don't think that's the reason.