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The Australian Cup is his autumn aim, Tom Dabernig said as much after the race yesterday.  Logically he will go to the same 2 races to start as the last two autumn, the CF Orr and Blamey then to the Australian Cup.

It would be awesome to see him have a crack at the Tancred but it's far more likely they'll want to go to the Doncaster and QE2 double, #australianism as djebel calls it.
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Originally posted by Afros Afros wrote:

The Australian Cup is his autumn aim, Tom Dabernig said as much after the race yesterday.  Logically he will go to the same 2 races to start as the last two autumn, the CF Orr and Blamey then to the Australian Cup.

It would be awesome to see him have a crack at the Tancred but it's far more likely they'll want to go to the Doncaster and QE2 double, #australianism as djebel calls it.

2400m (the Tancred) shouldn't be a problem i would of thought but the Doncaster mile and QE2 are enticing targets. 
Australian racing is only good up to 1400m in terms of world standards when it comes to depth/quality in numbers
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He’ll run well in any 1600m+ race he runs in.  But please no more handicaps.

If they go to Sydney after the Aust Cup, then the Rawson Stks, Tancred & QE Stks should be the only considerations.  No Doncaster Hcp please.
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Originally posted by Jamal Jamal wrote:

Originally posted by Afros Afros wrote:

Solid effort today, pity the Zipping Classic isn't further away as it would be a logical next race for him.

Trainer said after the race he'll target the Aus Cup in the autumn, I guess stud after that?

Wasn't quite good enough in the Mackinnon but ran an honest race. I think you're spot on - Australian Cup will be the aim in the autumn. Can he go back-to-back?



Anything to do with J Allen the only horse to sit the 3 deep with no cover in a smallish field, winner got the suck up off his back whilst he was left exposed. JUst a poor poor ride from an extremely overrated jock. If I were the owners I'd be ropable that was it's Grand Final. If he just gets in one off the fence he wins.
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Originally posted by Lord Hybrow Lord Hybrow wrote:

He’ll run well in any 1600m+ race he runs in.  But please no more handicaps.

If they go to Sydney after the Aust Cup, then the Rawson Stks, Tancred & QE Stks should be the only considerations.  No Doncaster Hcp please.

This is the common sense approach and if he were a gelding this is where he would go.  Because he's 2 stone heavier I'm sure the Doncaster will come into consideration with a view to his stud fee, if he happens to jag the CF Orr first up maybe they would approach it differently however?
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Agree far from an ideal ride, but with the tempo (or lack of) the race was run at PMD I think the winner would've been too good regardless of the run.

A Soft 5 and a more genuine speed and I think it would have been interesting between the first 3 home.
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What a tough animal
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Aus Cup huge chance.
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Both the quinella are huge hopes. I heard Marshall say that SOTS had been backed from $11 to $8 for the cup before the Blamey.
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The winner is now Qualified for the All Star Mile so surely she goes straight to that race
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Great effort by this stallion today for 2nd in the Blamey.

I assume they’re following last years template of backing up in the Aust Cup?  

With ASM being at MV this year, that’s probably wise to avoid that race.  Don’t think MV is a track that would suit him.
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They've said all along the plan was Blamey 2nd up, back up in the Australian Cup.  He's now fav for that race.
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Its simple - not good enough. Not sure why. Was clearly favourite in the Australian Cup. 
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I'm generally not one to bag jockeys, but gee Johnny Allen will want that ride back, he was a million to one two furlongs into the race from that position.
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Originally posted by Jamal Jamal wrote:

Its simple - not good enough. Not sure why. Was clearly favourite in the Australian Cup. 

Are you really that thick? He got into a position that doesn't suit his racing style and got stuck behind horses in the strait, as I said above, he was a million to one after 2 furlong.
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Not my problem. Those who backed the horse - their money is down the drain. Oh well..


Edited by Gay3 - 06 Mar 2021 at 6:18pm
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Watch the race again you drongo, he was beaten by circumstance not ability.

Or is this part of your one way feud with djebel? 
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Why bring Djebel into it? 
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Well you've been trying (and failing miserably) to go after djebel of late calling him emotional and so forth and he's been a fan of Fifty Stars for some time.

If you genuinely believe Fifty Stars loss today was down to a lack of ability and not racing circumstances well you really are a class 1 moron who's opinion is not worth a pinch of sh!t.
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Jesus oooops CHRIST
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Jamal are you a child? You certainly act like one.


Edited by Gay3 - 06 Mar 2021 at 6:19pm
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Afris and Shawy...you are both far too emotional and it shows time and time again. I mean seriously....calm down and get on with it. Cheers.
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No, I just know stupid when I see it.
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Oh and by the way Afros....Djebel and I get along really well. We may not agree on everything but we get along fine. This "feud" you speak of is utter nonsense. In fact I sent Djebel a message...and I expect him to reply.  There is no "feud" Afris but because you are so emotional....you fail to recognise this.

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Jamal, I saw djebel, referring to you, say how it is unfortunate he can't block on here like he can on Twitter, so that he doesn't have to read your inane dribbling. LOL
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Fifty Stars' owner Gerry Ryan says the Australian Cup winner could be retired and go to stud after he was taken out of Saturday's Doncaster Mile with a suspected injury.

The five-year-old’s owner is adamant the son of super-sire Sea The Stars will not be risked as David Hayes prepares to have the horse undergo a full vet check.

“I’m not going to risk the horse in any way for the sake of winning another race,” Ryan said.

“He might be retired and go to stud. He’s got a nice pedigree.

“He’s a Group I winner. He doesn’t need to win another race.”

Early on Tuesday morning, Hayes told Racenet the five-year-old would not run in the Doncaster after pulling up "uneven in his action" after a trial at Randwick last Friday.

At the time of Racenet writing this story at 8am on Tuesday morning, Fifty Stars was on the fourth line of Doncaster betting at $11 with tab.com.au.

"It's all a bit of a mystery as x-rays on the knees have come back all-clear," Hayes said early on Tuesday.

"It may be a deep-seated foot abscess or something like that.

"But we haven't been able to work him for three days so he is on his way back to Lindsay Park."

Hayes said there would be no chances taken with Fifty Stars as he was a "very valuable" horse.

Fifty Stars has won over $2m in career prizemoney and won his last two races, including the Australian Cup, with connections then opting not to take up their free ticket in the All-Star Mile and instead send him for a Doncaster tilt.

Racing NSW Stewards confirmed later in the morning that Fifty Stars would now head back to Lindsay Park's Euroa base.

"Trainer Mr D Hayes has advised Racing NSW Stewards that Fifty Stars has been found to be lame in the near fore leg and will not accept this morning for The Star Doncaster," the Stewards statement read.

"He advised the horse will be returned to his Euroa stable whereby it will be assessed by his stable veterinarian.

"He further advised a decision regarding a start in the Longines Queen Elizabeth stakes will be made once the horse has undergone a veterinary assessment."

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Yep time for stud for Fifty Stars
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His run today was fine.  Got stuck in an awkward position all the way & really a Good 3 track for him isn’t ideal.  

Assuming nothing physically wrong with him, I’d press onto Sydney and hope for a wet track in the Tancred Stks.  A soft track over 2400m would be perfect for him.
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John Allen's comment post race.

"We always hemmed away on the fence. Never got a lot of room and he's a horse that likes a lot of room. He still fought on honestly to the line."
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Originally posted by Afros Afros wrote:

I'm generally not one to bag jockeys, but gee Johnny Allen will want that ride back, he was a million to one two furlongs into the race from that position.

That's twice Allen has spoiled Fifty Stars' grand final, sat three deep no cover for absolutely no reason in the Mckinnon in the Spring and gets beat into second by Arcadia Queen with the plum ride on its back. Then puts it in an awful position yesterday back on the fence. From a very good draw as well. Any drongo punter with half a brain knows the horse needs to wind up with some galloping room. Make no mistake Allen butchered it again and all you overportective posters bad luck I didn't back it, I was on Angel Of truth (possibly just as bad a ride). I learned from the Mckinnon. Was just a plain terrible ride and needs to be called out for the shight that it was well said. Thumbs Up
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