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Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

You saying Bob pinched the comment without attribution TJ?  Shocked

Not at all. I do that all the time LOL. It just reminded me.
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Originally posted by Baghdad Bob Baghdad Bob wrote:

I got it from my son today, where he got it I have no idea.

 please, Bob...keep those personal revelations in-house...

 it could be contagious...

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JJ, that is twisting my reply to infer something devious.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote TJMitchell Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Sep 2021 at 11:19am
Matthew Guy giving his big speech and his press release of a 7 point plan of IMMEDIATE changes that are needed in Vic.

1. End the lockdown

Stern Smile sorry what? First point, just end the whole lockdown. Ok.


It was a f**king typo LOLEmbarrassed

Please, please, please sort the party out. We need Dan to at least face a challenge next election.
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Just watching Dan again and have to say, what's his obsession with Shepparton??? It's like the teacher's pet! He never stops saying how wonderful they are.
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Maybe he's building a road out there
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Guy's notes were probably typed by Dim Timmy Smith.
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Attorney-General a job for legal expertise, not political head-kicking

Duncan Fine

Nobody sits on the fence when it comes to Tim Smith. He’s either a brilliant political brawler or an arrogant Trumpian fool.  But should he be Victoria’s Attorney-General? 

Liberal MP Tim Smith has been elevated to shadow attorney-  He’s in line to be if Matthew Guy wins the next election. The trouble is that Smith isn’t a lawyer.  It’s a real issue because although we accept that the Minister for Health doesn’t need to be a doctor, the Attorney-General holds a vital role in our democracy.

The Attorney-General is a part of the government and yet independent of it. If a conflict arises, they must put the rule of law and the administration of justice

Our system of government is based on the understanding that all political power is subject to the law. The alternative would see every aspect of life decided by the will or the whim of an individual or a political party. (Think back to 2020 when Donald Trump wanted to use his Attorney-General to help spread the lie that he had won the election.)

The Attorney-General’s role, then, calls for a sharp legal mind. So it’s no surprise the three most brilliant (federal) attorneys-general of the last 50 years were all not just lawyers, but QCs, before they went into politics: Tom Hughes, Lionel Murphy and Bob Ellicott, who resigned on principle in 1977 rather than give into political pressure from PM Malcolm Fraser.

The other vital area of the Attorney-General’s job is to protect our independent judiciary from scurrilous attack.

For example, in 2017 federal ministers Greg Hunt, Michael Sukkar and Alan Tudge had to apologise to the Victorian Supreme Court after they sought to make a cheap political point by attacking a sentence in a criminal matter as being ideological and not based in legal precedent.

That kind of wild partisan attack on the courts by politicians has a clear subtext – that judges should forget legal reasoning and only listen to political powerful and those with loudest, shrillest voices in the media. That’s not just undemocratic; it’s a big step toward a dictatorship.

I always thought that conservatives protected the institutions and conventions that underpin our democracy; that they, following Edmund Burke in the 1790s, revered prudent thought and the continuity of institutions.

Tim Smith may well be intelligent and conscientious. But that’s not the point. Our democracy demands we have an Attorney-General who knows the law and is willing to defend its traditions.

It takes a courageous, legally trained, independent mind. People focused on political expediency, no matter how clever, need not apply.

 

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Tim Smith and intelligent do not belong in the same sentence.

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Police, no doubt under 'consultation 'from Dan have decided to shut down all Melbourne public transport on Saturday between 8 am and 2pm in an attempt to foil a planned anti- lockdown protest in the Melbourne CBD. The reason for this lockdown was that a previous protest last month turned into more of a riot than a peaceful protest and to avoid a similar recurrence public transport will limit the number of protesters. I am sure there are many genuine protesters who have a good reason to attend, but there will always a number of radicals who just want to cause trouble, therefore I understand the reasons for shutting down the public transport on Saturday. 
However, as you are all aware, there is currently a radical movement in society that want to do away with the celebration of the landing of the First fleet on Australia Day each January, because they consider that day as "Invasion Day". Well, is just happens on the 26th January next year a protest is planned in the Melbourne CBD to draw attention to the "invasion of Australia".No doubt that protest will not be peaceful and could turn into a riot . 

What are the odds the police will shut down public transport on that day ? 100/1 as that protest will have the sympathy and blessing of Dan, the leader of the Socialist Republic of Victoria
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They'll all just ride their bikes a short distance from North Melbourne/ Carlton/ Collingwood/ Fitzroy anyway.
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From tomorrow 5 people can play indoor sport but golf and tennis are still banned.

Just following the latest health advice.
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Naffdanistan, the place to be by the sounds of it.
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  I see the rabble are out in force again, in Melbourne, today.

 Maybe it's their only entertainment, as their walnut-sized brains can't function enough to think up  anything else.

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Sickening. Why do they need to be violent? Dumb as dog sh*t.
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Why do they need to be violent?  Possibly because the pricks are dumb as dog sh*t.  Angry
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If this is any indication, just imagine how worse off Victorians would be under a State Coalition Government:

Opposition promised churches it would amend gay conversion laws if elected

The Victorian opposition quietly promised the Australian Christian Lobby and other and other faith groups that it would amend new laws banning gay conversion therapy if it won next year’s state election.

Then-opposition leader Michael O’Brien committed to wind back elements of the laws if he won the November 2022 election, in a bid to secure the votes of religious conservatives who rallied against the Victorian government criminalising attempts to suppress or change an LGBTI person’s gender or sexuality, including through faith.

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The people are revolting.
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Revolting.  In more ways than one Cry
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Running a cursory glance over Dan's announced Roadmap of Victorians wayout of his draconian Covid restrictions it all appears Kosher, however running a closer a look it is not as all it appears. 
For example taking his plans for weddings and funerals. I note from November 5th  providing 80 % of 16 years + are fully vaccinated 150 can attend an inside venue and 500 outdoors. But looking closer at that percentage and that date it is the National Plan Phase C, which means 80 % of ALL Australians not just Victorians. With such low fully vaccinated rates in WA & Qld this no hope of 80% ALL australians being fully vaccinated by November 5th. 
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That's not what it means at all. It's Vic numbers not Aus.
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TJM, then was is this under the title of National Plan Phase C  ?
Are you telling me Dan has gone outside of the National Plan ?
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That's just what they're all titled.

National Plan: Phase A
National Plan: Phase B
National Plan: Phase C

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National Plan: Phase D - 19th November 

Once 80% of Victorians aged 12+ are fully vaccinated restrictions will align with the National Plan to transition Australia's National Covid19 response, agreed to by National Cabinet
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Living in Melbourne under Dan's roadmap I cannot get a haircut until the 26th October, even then 70% have to be fully vaccinated. I will finish up looking like some of those hippies in Byron BayEmbarrassed 
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LOL

I took to shaving my own head years ago. I have been growing a beard most of the year though
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Originally posted by TJMitchell TJMitchell wrote:

That's just what they're all titled.

National Plan: Phase A
National Plan: Phase B
National Plan: Phase C

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National Plan: Phase D - 19th November 

Once 80% of Victorians aged 12+ are fully vaccinated restrictions will align with the National Plan to transition Australia's National Covid19 response, agreed to by National Cabinet

 
National Plan To Transition Covid

National Cabinet agreed to formulate a national plan to transition Australia’s National COVID-19 Response from its current pre vaccination settings, focussing on continued suppression of community transmission, to post vaccination settings focussed on prevention of serious illness, hospitalisation and fatality, and the public health management of other infectious diseases Phases triggered in a jurisdiction when the average vaccination rates across the nation have reached the threshold and that rate is achieved in a jurisdiction expressed as a percentage of the eligible population (16+), based on the scientific modelling conducted for the COVID-19 Risk Analysis and Response Task Force


The key word in that paragraph is the word jurisdiction...it is NOT defined. It could mean the nation, a state or a LGA.
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There's more than enough things to be cranky with Dan over BB. You don't need to go looking for things that aren't there.
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Originally posted by Baghdad Bob Baghdad Bob wrote:

Originally posted by TJMitchell TJMitchell wrote:

That's just what they're all titled.

National Plan: Phase A
National Plan: Phase B
National Plan: Phase C

then 

National Plan: Phase D - 19th November 

Once 80% of Victorians aged 12+ are fully vaccinated restrictions will align with the National Plan to transition Australia's National Covid19 response, agreed to by National Cabinet

 
National Plan To Transition Covid

National Cabinet agreed to formulate a national plan to transition Australia’s National COVID-19 Response from its current pre vaccination settings, focussing on continued suppression of community transmission, to post vaccination settings focussed on prevention of serious illness, hospitalisation and fatality, and the public health management of other infectious diseases Phases triggered in a jurisdiction when the average vaccination rates across the nation have reached the threshold and that rate is achieved in a jurisdiction expressed as a percentage of the eligible population (16+), based on the scientific modelling conducted for the COVID-19 Risk Analysis and Response Task Force


The key word in that paragraph is the word jurisdiction...it is NOT defined. It could mean the nation, a state or a LGA.

 
Well having a wife as a lawyer certainly has its advantages, as my wife has been able to define, as it appears in the Australian Constitution, the word jurisdiction. It means any state or territory within Australia, which means as far as Dan is concerned once 80% of 16years + of Victorians are fully vaccinated the road map he has laid out can commence , of course if other states ( jurisdictions ) still have closed borders or other draconian restrictions Victorians will have to abide by those restrictions.

On another matter I heard Dan's Roadmap out of his restrictions, was better described rather than a Roadmap but as a Roadblock.
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None of the states want to commit to jurisdiction with several Premiers especially those languishing with lower vaccination rates dodging answers.

Dan seems to be going it alone on Victorian vaccination levels rather than a national level of 70 or 80% with his hard end of October commitment.
    
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Dan's a fair knob, this is true, but the Herald Sun today is a disgrace Sick
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