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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote crooked_gambler Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Sep 2019 at 2:13pm
why not keep him fresh and go third up into the guineas, 4th up into the 2000m at Flemington Day 4
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Gee folks this is a Derby colt.  You all cry out we don't breed stayers.  We do we just don't let them stay!
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Everyone wants to train this colt for Leon.

Any of you heard of Gold Guru?
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I've got a nice 50/1 double dalasan caul guin exceedance golden rose and s confident after yesterday. Although Dalasan will be better suited flem and further he settles handy and not much looks beyond him.
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Originally posted by Sunline Sunline wrote:

Everyone wants to train this colt for Leon.

Any of you heard of Gold Guru?



This horse is classes above Gold Guru and Rebel Raider at their trips as well.





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His immediate goal is the Guineas, which is reasonable given he’s a 3yo colt. That being the case, I see no problem with running him Saturday especially seeing he, you know...won.
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As a 3 yr old Gold Guru beat Zonda in an Aust Guineas, Tie the Knot/Northern Drake in the Derby, and Might and Power/Dane Ripper at WFA.

If Dalasan is 'classes above' him, then the rest of the 3 year olds may as well not show up.

I'll prefer to wait and see.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote furious Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Sep 2019 at 1:28pm
I remember Gold Guru with great fondness.  If this boy is in his class we are in for some fun.
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I hope I am wrong but I expect him to show they have aimed to short with him.




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Good effort and the only problem looks like he might be looking for 2000m already.

Over to djebel
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Jockey suggested he wants blinkers.
Leon not convinced
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Needs a jockey change for the big dance, horse was in charge of Clark down the straight. A stronger jockey and it wins that race.

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Barrier trial. Book a stronger jockey for the big one.
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K McEvoy or Ollie on and he wins today but that’s racing
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Hit that flat spot today like he did last start, strong on the line. Agree that he needs an aggressive ride over these shorter distances. If he's up on the speed in the Guineas they won't get past him.
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Guineas then Cox Plate. Lock it in . It would be the owner/breeders dream to have a future young sire with profile. as the breeder of Rebel Raider , RR has whetted his appetite
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I don’t mind potting a jock but I don’t think Raquel done much wrong. Warmed up late and just missed with bigger (longer) races to come. He’s not the most tractable and there were a lot worse rides on the day.
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They are dreaming if they think this horse can win the Guineas.
Won’t finish Top 3
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Originally posted by Smoke and Mirrors Smoke and Mirrors wrote:

They are dreaming if they think this horse can win the Guineas.
Won’t finish Top 3


Possibly. But that Prelude run was a good 2000m Cox Plate trial!
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He reminds me of Rich Enuff who was also poorly placed
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Well it's all about opinion, and who's to say who's right or wrong at this point.

My two-bob's worth is that imo his program has been faultless so far, and barring bad luck he'll give his rivals a hiding in the Guineas.
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Would've won by 5 with Noel Callow on
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No one is saying she rode it wrong. I think the consensus is that some horses benefit with stronger riders. That's all
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Let me put it this way.

I would have backed him in Sydney on Saturday, against the three gallopers who filled the placings in the Rose.

He can sit up near speed, if he draws a gate inside 8 in the Guineas, he wins like TAS did last year.

Not scared of anything from Sydney!
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Not even sure who is going down but a Sydneysider will win the Caulfield Guineas.




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They will go mad in front in The Guineas, he will need luck, but he has shown he's got the ability ... tempo killed him on Sunday, and yes, talking through my pocket.
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Lets look at the runners from the Rose.

Bivouac looks like he might get a Everest run.

It has been reported Yes Yes Yes is being freshened for the Coolmore, but even if he shows up no chance of winning a hard run 1600m.

Exceedance. He is a talented horse, who will be competitive but he will have some problems, a big field, giving Dalasan at least two lengths start. That is a recipe for second at best. And he will probably start favorite as well.

Kubrick. I backed him in the rose, but to me he is racing like a wet tracker. By that I mean he can not seem to increase his speed as much on a dry track. He is the one with the most improvement (he has more than Yes Yes Yes because Waller always said YYY was his Rose contender and Kubrick is his Guineas chance, which means YYY was a little more forward for his Sydney campaign). Again he can be competitive but not sure he can win on a dry track.

Yao Dash. He could be the smokey. Typical Gai runner, good gate speed, sits forward and he has the profile of a winner of the guineas.

Dawn Passage. Looks an ideal Sandwon Guineas type to me. Just below top level.

Castelvecchio and Prince Fawaz. They will not get warm until they get to 2000m.

As I said I would not be afarid of any of those if I owned Dalasan!
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Bowman booked for the Guineas
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The owner/breeder can choose what races he pleases. And he is & he can afford to.
But in this game it is all about chasing dreams. If you don't aim high you won't win a big one. May mean at times some horses are not well placed but as they say in the classics  "he who pays the bills .......
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I think he will be winning The Caulfield Guineas & emerge as a genuine Cox Plate contender.

Will Raquel get the ride back down in the weights in The Cox Plate?
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