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Maybe he’s just guessing like they all are
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NSW's Health Minister has made an astonishing claim about how the Morrison government is handling the vaccine rollout, revealing he learns more from the media than the Federal government itself.

Health Minister Brad Hazzard appeared in ABC's 7.30 last night where he lifted the lid on exactly how poorly communication around the rollout is being handled.

"7.30 is a very good program, Leigh. Very good program. We do get a lot of our information from you. I think it reflects the fact that the Federal Government are obviously struggling with trying to do the right thing by the community in New South Wales and indeed Australia," he said.

Mr Hazzard also reiterated claims that NSW has been left in the dark over how many vaccine doses it will receive each week, making planning appointments and follow up shots incredibly difficult.

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So, just to explain,  AstraZenca making blood clots in younger peoples brains, is because their bodies are reacting and sent into hyper drive, hyper defence.
Simply because their cells are more active.

So it begs the question, why is that less in older people?
Simple.
The vaccine is so bad, it takes over your entire body and you can't even fight it.
It literally changes YOU.
Your body gives up, very early.

The younger bodies try to fight it, but have to fight it so hard, they get brain blood clotting.

Of course, I knew this months ago, and even posted that on here, and as per usual, anglos are slow off the mark and it makes news now.

As for Pfizer etc, people are dying from it, and media say, "oh she has underlying health conditions".

BOOM

There it is folks.

Media just backed themselves into a corner, the dumb f#cken filthy morons.
They are effectively saying, without wanting to, you cant take these jabs, if you have any form of health condition.

Pfizer causes Mad Cow Disease.
This finding will become prominent as symptoms grow in about one year to 2 years

This is nothing but Darwinism

The absolutely gullible trusting morons are taking these jabs.
Only smart and strong people are the resistance.

Its pure Darwinism now and its pure evil.

Gates etc is on a vendetta because he was bullied at school and the loser cant get over it.
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I am old enough to remember when a bleach injection, a torch up your clacker and a couple hydroxychloroquine's was the cure.
   
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

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Mr Hazzard also reiterated claims that NSW has been left in the dark over how many vaccine doses it will receive each week, making planning appointments and follow up shots incredibly difficult.

https://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/live-breaking-news/live-coverage/09433962264f39576eda48106e51654a#83127


Apparently Victoria were allocated 40,000 doses this week but they haven't arrived yet
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The absolutely gullible trusting morons are taking these jabs.
Only smart and strong people are the resistance.




"The number of people vaccinated with the first jab has reached 2.5 million, Prime Minister Viktor Orbán has announced"


Absolute gullible morons. Just idiots. So dumb. LOL

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But they are dumb Hungarians, and the rest of us are just dumb. Confused Big difference LOL
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I guarantee if the AZ vaccine wasn't one of the cheaper vaccines (around $4) more countries wouldn't be using it.

If the Pfizer one was having the same problems at it's $15-$20 per dose it would be a different story.
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2 in a million with side effects is not such a big problem, especially compared to the alternative.

Most are in young women so I will be fine. Big smile
   
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Enjoy your AZ vaccine boys and girls, I won't be getting it LOL
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With respect TJ
You have f all say in the matter

Any idea at all before you’re eligible?
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Of course he has a say in the matter. He asks the doctor/nurse what vaccine it is. If they say AZ he stands up and walks out the door.
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Originally posted by rusty nails rusty nails wrote:

With respect TJ
You have f all say in the matter

Any idea at all before you’re eligible?

I'm like phase 2b or some sh1t. Maybe that nova one will be ready then LOL
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AstraZeneca is being focused on over 50's and Pfizer on under 50's to try to mitigate the miniscule chances of blood clotting. 

Either it is safe or this govt has decided that they have stock they need to get rid of and we over 50's are nearer to God anyway so we get it.
   
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And the October deadline to either start or finish the rollout(depending on which version you choose to accept) is now out to 2022 and beyond.
   
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People everywhere are fronting for their vaccine appointments and being turned away if under 50.
   
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It’s a total debacle. What’s the situation with vaccination in NZ? Any possibility of a trip over for a jab?
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Wasn't long ago the same old mob was saying how safe the vaccine was, how things change when people are the test subjects 

Roll up and get your astra jabs 
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To be fair TIGER, they have been copping a lot of pressure to "just get the vaccine going" so that everything can be opened up again, so considering that pressure is it really a surprise that it has all been rushed? 

Running about with your hands in the air like a striker who just scored the world cup winning goal because one of your many theories tracing back to your "they're out to get us" fear base has proven somewhat correct isn't really necessary here, nobody has said the vaccine roll-out would be predicament free.
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It is safe Tigg, they are just trying to con anti-vaxxers like you and Shrunk to get your jab. They haven't withdrawn the vaccine, just shuffled it around like a shell and pea game.

Dont fall for it Tigg, Bill Gates is after you.
   
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More chance statistically of getting blood clots from the contraceptive pill. You better stop taking that one too Tiger.
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"People everywhere are fronting for their vaccine appointments and being turned away if under 50. "

Heath care workers you mean? Who else under 50 was getting vaccinated? The Hemsworths?
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The tables have turned, whippersnappers. Over 50s rule, yeah.LOL
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As the majority of nurses would likely be women between 20 and 50, that is the ''problem'' group for the AZ blood clotting rarity.. Just govt getting an indemnity form in front of that group before jabbing anyone. 
   
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 the interesting part will be when people get the second jab. It's quite possible for a first vaccination to set the body up for a reaction from a second one.  

 Been there, seen it.

 

 
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You are meant to get a reaction, shows that the body is responding and forming an immune response, just not meant to die.

The good news so far after a million vaccinated is the streets are not littered with corpses.
   
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More chance statistically of getting blood clots from the contraceptive pill. You better stop taking that one too Tiger.

 the thing is...they know that and women are always advised of the very low risk of blood clots from the pill.
  
 It is far more common to get clots from plane flights, or even long car rides...which is how I got mine...

 I've always been cautious about the astra vaccine. Wasn't going to rush out and get it, despite believing vaccination is the only way out.

 A 76% efficacy never struck me as a reasonable reason to go after it. What were the side effects of those in the remaining 24%? 

 Phizer was a better option for the govt to chase.

 

 
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

You are meant to get a reaction, shows that the body is responding and forming an immune response, just not meant to die.

The good news so far after a million vaccinated is the streets are not littered with corpses.

 sometimes the body responds severely, though. My daughter came close to dying from a faulty whooping cough vax they were routinely giving for years. They eventually modified the formula because it caused so many 'odd' reactions.

 I am pro-vax, but I've been through scary times in regards to my own family, let alone friend's children, who have had their lives destroyed by a bad reaction to vaccination.

 The odds favour vaccination....but let's be realistic about this. Rushing through production without waiting for a complete result is not confidence building.

 

 

 
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And the govt is protecting itself from potential lawsuits by making people sign a release form before taking the vaccine in the age/gender bracket identified as being at higher marginal risk.

Families of anyone who dies from AZ with blood clots aged 20-60 will have their lawyers citing the studies from Denmark and Germany identifying the risk group. In Europe they thought it so low risk their debate last week was whether to put a caution on the vials or not.
   
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