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Voluntary systems with no real penalty for non-compliance, are doomed. This will just roll on until heavy penalties are introduced, aka jail.
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Exactly.  No one is taking it seriously because they know the penalties wont be enforced. 
Get some real penalties in place and make them stick.   Enforce them to the max. 
And closed borders mean just that.   If you are on the wrong side when the border gets shut,,,stiff gelati.  You stay there or quarantine at your own cost. 
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Originally posted by Baghdad Bob Baghdad Bob wrote:

That woman Eve Black who last week put on her Facebook the act of her defying a police request to where she was travelling and then again earlier this week was arrested with police smashing her car window when she refused to provide them with her details or step out of her car has a few more tricks up her sleeves.

Ms Black goes by the stage name Eden where she performs as a topless dancer /waitress at boy’s night entertainment in pubs or private venues. Eden has also being known to appear in fancy dress at parties catering for couple - swapping swingers.

Not just as a COVID- sceptic making headlines for all the wrong reasons, Ms Black has an interesting lifestyle.

Maybe she could catch up with those young African ladies who got back into Queensland after catching up with friends in Melbourne and compare experiences.

Back in the day we would have called her a “slapper” LOL


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Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

Voluntary systems with no real penalty for non-compliance, are doomed. This will just roll on until heavy penalties are introduced, aka jail.


That is the point I too was making.....    I didn't mention any specific area , I mean all of us everywhere. Authority can work when enforced.
I've stated I have been angry with my own , for ( what I see) as inconsiderate acts . ( with my own well being at stake )
One Son decides to stay with me , during his own period of an illness of concern 9 While backward and forward to every Pathology and Medical Centre in The area ...   Another has Nursing wife , who creates a risk .   
    Nurses like any other worker, keep going for the very reason , That they need the work as much as the millions being destroyed by over reaction.
What makes a Nurse more value than a check out chick , delivery Driver , The garbage men .. School teacher, secretaries on Age Care /Hospital desks . etc etc .      ( If you get the picture )
LADIES, If You don't want to get POLINATED, Keep the PETALS CLOSED
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VIC #COVID19Aus update at 2:30pm >650 new cases expected
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Macca will like this - Andrews just called covid "the biggest challenge - perhaps ever - we've ever faced."
A f*cking policed curfew coming up from 8pm tonight!! Thanks Dan and his idiot crew.
And he's only giving orders about work rules tomorrow. When they've figured it out.
Amazing to think that a few months ago I was peed off that he was letting the GP happen. Crazy times.
What happens if this doesn't work??
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Never forget re Hotel Quarantine. Three medical experts will be called as witnesses and are expected to reveal almost all of Victoria's second wave can be attributed to the bungled scheme.

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lolololol   Where will they find 3 Medical Experts .. lolololol..

      They haven't been expert thus far .....
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VIC = Fwits at work, have you ever seen a moron like this? maybe Joan Kirner or John Cain....maybe.
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Is this Monty Python? 
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Who's going to advise the 'people of African appearance' that roam in gangs....oh, you're not allowed out after 8pm.....? this is going to get tricky.
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Takeaway??? must be home by 8pm, the smell of burning rubber will spoil your appetite.
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Originally posted by Bonjour Bonjour wrote:

Who's going to advise the 'people of African appearance' that roam in gangs....oh, you're not allowed out after 8pm.....? this is going to get tricky.
Lol true
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Gotta say, I knew the first lockdown was a practice drill for Winter. They learned during the practice drill that a lot of people in Vic are spoiled, selfish tw*ts, and nanny nagging will be ignored. 

Having vented my spleen, let's face it - nobody anywhere so far has been prepared for this. I'll try not to say China was. Tongue
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The first lockdown was actually working. They learned during the practice drill that a lot of people in Vic government are spoiled, selfish tw*ts that will put mates in charge of things instead of calling in the authorities. 
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Lol true too
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He's doing a great job ...    Thousands have benefited from the natural vaccination.......     It will be open House shortly .. The purse strings won't cope with it for much longer.

Which reminds me .... 3500 Australians have died since this time last week.    Most of them were over 70 and Age care Residents ... Surprise.
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Stay safe macca
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Une debacle diabolique, but I guess it is a story all too common across the globe, Montenegro thought they had got rid of it, but it came back in force.
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Did I hear yesterday that police in Vic were door knocking homes of people known to be infected and in self quarantine? The upshot was that around 1 in four were NOT home! Disgraceful.
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Needs serious punishment of offenders, to turn this around, otherwise it will spiral into disaster.
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A prison cell for 14 days may keep them isolated. 
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   People are rattled and the differences of opinions are getting quite Hostile...     Why do we take as gospel , the wild misleading lectures from
, people of self interest.      Experts is a loose description .
I give up after today with a lecture on the magical Power of "Paramedics" . A new and more acceptable term for the AMBO.....
Wonderful people who do a great job .... But don't get carried away.
Their usual training is about 12 / 18 months ---- About the same as an Enrolled Nurse   ------- and like most part trained in medicine they are entitled to go on to become Brain Surgeons ---- So can Wally Lewis.                            
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Good to see youré still posting macca at least having some healthcare profession insight Wink (be it Qld style) and seen some of the practical changes over time .... LOL impractical maybe more like it. 

... it's about pleasing everyone you can get that right and youré laughing that's how ti works ... look at us ...Victoria Smile

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it of course ... anyway just trying to make sure l get my paperwork right before l go to the ... Adminstrative paper-work  that is  Wink
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I have been reliably informed that Fines Victoria, another  hopeless Andrews state government authority. that follows up unpaid fines is two to three years behind in chasing up fines. Most of those fines are never paid as many of the people fined can never be located as many are iterates and move around all over the place. 
If one wanted to defy the 8pm to 5am curfew and were on the dole, homeless or just defiant the chances of having to pay the fine are negligible as after three years you most likely to be untraceable.
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The modern libertine attitude, is not serving the societies well, that have adopted or encouraged it, in this crisis. Little surprise the Chinese got on top of this, while we are dicking around with honour systems, and self-monitoring. That fails.
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You'd prefer the Chinese approach, MM? Very pragmatic,  and good for statistics.LOL
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I just think there are a lot of selfish people out there who dont give a cuss about others.
Look how well lockdown worked in the beginning.
Now, no one cares.  And why ?  Because the punishment doesnt work. 
No one will pay those fines and nothing will happen to them.
If they go check a house and the person isnt there,,,,when they come home , lock them up ,,,,chuck them in the big jail for 2 weeks, and if they last, let them out again. 
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Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

You'd prefer the Chinese approach, MM? Very pragmatic,  and good for statistics.LOL
This is like war, certainly in terms of treasure lost, if not lives, so far, for Australia, but already both in many cases, of countries OS, being soft on non-compliance, is tantamount to treason. 
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