Coloured Thoroughbreds!

Champion galloper High Caste was registered as roan furious, or better known in the days as " the strawberry bull", you go deeper than me might be worth a look , family 18,

He could of been a red bay with grey flecks in his coat I guess.

"High Caste was distinguished not just by his size but by the peculiar roan colour that flecked his rich, red coat and gave rise to his sobriquet of the “Strawberry Bull”. "

furious wrote: Did the roan blood come in the same way?  Just asking as I can't remember any roans registered back in my day.

Much enjoy your posts, KM. Thanks for taking the time to share your knowledge.
I am fascinated by colour genetics (though of course a good horse in any colour is a good horse) - and have read and re-read most of the articles.
Chimeras are especially interesting - how amazing is nature, and the science that proves it.
My soapbox speech is that no way can the likes of Profile in Style, or the (mostly) US palominos etc, be 'stud book thoroughbreds'. I.e. the dilute cream gene simply does not exist in the breed. It has snuck in from somewhere else. (My bet is the US quarter horse.)

I've long been intrigued by the number of unusual chestnuts that have Lunchtime in their pedigree - well at least I think it's coming from his line somewhere but there's understandably no research. Hopefully some of the experienced posters here can comment ...

Not really, GA, sorry, as I truly don't know enough...
But over the years I've just noticed that many chestnuts with flaxen manes and tails (Rory's Jester types?) and some 'liver' and 'taffy' like chestnuts have Lunchtime somewhere... it may not even be from him, just an uneducated guess.
Not A Single Doubt seems to throw some too?

brave_ponies wrote: Not really, GA, sorry, as I truly don't know enough... But over the years I've just noticed that many chestnuts with flaxen manes and tails (Rory's Jester types?) and some 'liver' and 'taffy' like chestnuts have Lunchtime somewhere... it may not even be from him, just an uneducated guess. Not A Single Doubt seems to throw some too?

acacia alba wrote: I have tried to read thru this but its quite complicated.  Kim M ,  could you explain to me in basic terms what Chimeric is/means ?  Is it a colour or a gene or what ? I freely admit I have no idea about the colour genes and how they work and what they produce.  Its very complicated , which makes me believe most TB breeders have no idea how any of it works in regards to lethal white.  Thanks.

Roany Fencejumper the Stationbred A very good point, though, that he might have done his deed long ago.

That's what I want to know AA - where does the stand-out chestnut come from? (And how do I get some?) Hopefully someone smart will tell us.

Could it come from our colonial lines?? (Hence my Lunchtime guess)

Here's one - Apart from being a good sort, Rich Enuff is a very dark and uncommon shade of chestnut for a TB - imagine if he carried the liver chestnut gene? The non-racing breeders would flock to him. Or could one of his ancestors have been liver chestnut but just registered as 'brown'?

Urgh, I have so many questions - please don't get me started you fabulous people, I won't get any work done!

I think Rory's Jester is more likely to be the one throwing the flaxen mane and tails than Lunchtime.  He was a solid red chestnut no flaxen unlike the other boy.

Interesting pedigree.

Dizzy wrote: One in a Million Filly - You've Never Seen a Thoroughbred Like This Sponsored Content - by Tara Madgwick - Sunday June 2 The 2019 Magic Millions National Sale moves into its third week at the Gold Coast on Wednesday with the yearlings taking centre stage and while there have been many horses offered at this sale so far, none are anything like this one. A one of a kind roan paint thoroughbred will be going through the ring on Friday 7 June starting at 10am as Lot 2440.          Passed in at $67,500.00 with a reserve of $75k.

Oh god. What syndicate was going to play people? Oh, buy into this special coloured filly, she more than likely wont beat a fly home, but hey!

woops.   missed it.  so is Ritzy Gal, dam of Moonhawk.