Climate Change - Global Warming..

I have never been able to understand one way or the other why this has been such a massive issue.

Is Global warming occurring...and what is the best evidence..?

Whenever I think of this topic I remind myself of when this planet was in it's infancy, cooling and spewing out billions of tons on carbon dioxide etc etc...

If we are seeing global warming I am unsure there is anything we could do at this point to negate its progress. If the earths population is nothing but a algal bloom coming into final phase, or bacterial cycle etc, then we would all be gone anyways, if all we are worried about is a weather cycle that was doing it's own thing anyway, was given a bit more energy via our carbon output to complete it's cycle faster, then it all seems to point to one thing really...Competition for control of new energies driven by fear campaigns and bogus science.

I would think the most important thing to keep as clean and free of polutants is the Ocean...

Yes the Earth has cooled and warmed before.... it has been through severe drought before... and there were also massive extinction events associated with the previous warming/cooling and drought cycles. Not many woolly mammoths around these days - want to join them?

It's also the time frame that the changes are taking place that's the problem. The previous changes occurred over millennia  - now we are talking about rapid changes over decades. Do we really want to go down that path if we can help it? The science is well substantiated, but it's the loonies who get all the press time.

Any coincidence that we're having bushfires in September?

On the back of the warmest 12 months ever recorded in Australia...

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/weather/warm-winter-caps-nations-hottest-year-20130901-2syzt.html

Fiddlesticks wrote: I would think the most important thing to keep as clean and free of polutants is the Ocean...

Well they could certainly use a little less of the heat they are currently accruing.

Not sure of the point of this thread, it's all been done ad nauseam in the Carbon Tax thread. To be brief, you either accept a broad scientific consensus, or you don't.

http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus

For a look at the actual science, including a rebuttal (linked right there on the home page) of dozens of common myths, all referenced, linked and annotated:

http://www.skepticalscience.com/

Global Warming Computer Models Collapse; Arctic Ice Sheets Rapidly Expand as Planet Plunges into Global Cooling

A chilly Arctic summer has left nearly a million more square miles of ocean covered with ice than at the same time last year – an increase of 60 per cent.

The rebound from 2012’s record low comes six years after the BBC reported that global warming would leave the Arctic ice-free in summer by 2013.

Instead, days before the annual autumn re-freeze is due to begin, an unbroken ice sheet more than half the size of Europe already stretches from the Canadian islands to Russia’s northern shores.

The Northwest Passage from the Atlantic to the Pacific has remained blocked by pack-ice all year. More than 20 yachts that had planned to sail it have been left ice-bound and a cruise ship attempting the route was forced to turn back.

Some eminent scientists now believe the world is heading for a period of cooling that will not end until the middle of this century – a process that would expose computer forecasts of imminent catastrophic warming as dangerously misleading.

The disclosure comes 11 months after The Mail on Sunday triggered intense political and scientific debate by revealing that global warming has ‘paused’ since the beginning of 1997 – an event that the computer models used by climate experts failed to predict.

In March, this newspaper further revealed that temperatures are about to drop below the level that the models forecast with ‘90 per cent certainty’.

The pause – which has now been accepted as real by every major climate research centre – is important, because the models’ predictions of ever-increasing global temperatures have made many of the world’s economies divert billions of pounds into ‘green’ measures to counter  climate change.

Those predictions now appear gravely flawed.

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Are dramatic changes in the polar ice cap normal?

It still is for some people

I think I will take science over dreamtime stories thanks Grinners!!

The same scientists spruiking global warming are the ones who 20 years ago told us there was a hole in the ozone layer and we'd all be fried by now.

Funnily enough you never hear about the hole in the ozone layer now they've got a new fairytale to peddle. They also told us that the Y2k bug would have planes falling out of the sky at the turn of the millennium. Did that happen?

These scientists must sit around p1ssing themselves laughing at the crap people will swallow.

yep science has contributed nothing to the world you live in 

Lastycoon wrote: Almost certainly that is what I suggested Whale. I clearly stated that I thought that Einstein was a fraud and Newton wasnt standing on the shoulders of giants but a big steaming pile of gelati. If you choose to follow the thread you would have noticed it was pointed particularly at "climate change". In this regard I do believe that the science you are referring to is deeply flawed by the funding and publishing model presently in place within our universities and public institutions. Happy to discuss these things but dont put words into my mouth.

I know

Seriously,

So you accept the science you agree with and reject the science you disagree with.
Informed decision no doubt, please list your qualifations, or do you get your viewpoint from Andrew Bolt and Alan Jones