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My chin hits my nose when I chew now gay3.

Use your imagination and gauge my attractive presentation when going hard on 3 nicorette tablets.

That and a bucket of Chlorinated water is my virus vaccine.
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Originally posted by marble marble wrote:

Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

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and chicken chow mein!

LOL

ps that just happens to be the code name the "cultural attache" at the Embassy of the People's Republic in Canberra has for our friend Isaac.  Wink

LOL I'm sure they have their eye on Isaac - maybe he shouldn't download the app, they might hack in

pt says that accounts for all the views to the china thread, keeping an eye on me.
At least you lot know where my allegiances lie.
the fast boat to china is waiting for the likes of you.

America is going to take more of our stuff. who needs china.
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Donald Trump said the same as Oz did to China today .

I note they aren't adopting the same threats to the USA.
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china wants to keep its wet markets in busienss.
fair enough, dont but our stuff.
pity the wildlife however.
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china, just a bunch of bullies.
is that being anti china?
oh well.....i am not alone.
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Both the USA and China are as bad as each other, Australia just needs to decide what bed they want to jump in with and for good

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After November the decision will be much easier for us.
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you are out of step with your own party pt.
Albanese wants china to be more democratic and Wong wants the inquiry into the virus.
the boat to china is waiting for you.
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I have a curious mind, Isaac, and am always trying to work out what motivates people, after much deliberation, I have reached the conclusion that your antipathy to all things Chinese, derives from a childhood incident, when some kid gave you a "Chinese burn".
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Might have got a dodgy Mongolian goat, blaming it on wet market contamination.
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PT, which nation do you feel has prospered/progressed more since the year 2000?

China: 2000 to 2020?

or

America: 2000 to 2020?


If unqualified "Doctor" Bill Gates, is so educated about Viruses, why does Windows get Viruses all the time??
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So China went better than America?
If unqualified "Doctor" Bill Gates, is so educated about Viruses, why does Windows get Viruses all the time??
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Depends on what better means There are many metrics that determine growth or improvement in circumstance.
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When it's all boiled down , all of existence is the big fish chasing down and devouring the Little fish.

   China is becoming a big fish.      The USA got over weight on the feasts it had during WW2 and ate the 2 big fish of that time.

   Their hungry for the South Pacific, so watch out.
There are small fish as opponents there for them, but without the USA ,
The China expansion will be rapid.

I believe that war started long ago.   I'd be nice to the Yanks or take out a Kevin Rudd / Turnbull Family , Insurance Policy.   
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Originally posted by Rhino Rhino wrote:

Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

Its just xenophobia, have we been "swamped by Asians" yet ? Well, I suppose Indian cab drivers are Asians.


In parts of Sydney, yes we have. And don't get me started on property prices. 


Love to read opinions on Real Estate Rhino.

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When it's all boiled down , all of existence is the big fish chasing down and devouring the Little fish.

   China is becoming a big fish.      The USA got over weight on the feasts it had during WW2 and ate the 2 big fish of that time.

   Their hungry for the South Pacific, so watch out.
There are small fish as opponents there for them, but without the USA ,
The China expansion will be rapid.

I believe that war started long ago.   I'd be nice to the Yanks or take out a Kevin Rudd / Turnbull Family , Insurance Policy.   

maxie, why do you think Trump blew up the TPP as his first action in office? 

The TPP was designed to counter the economic growth of China specifically.

Trump is a lot closer to China and it's benefits to him and his family than you are game to admit.
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The Communist Party of China have learned the lessons of the West well - they are now masters at playing the race card.
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An opinion piece I received today.. Greg Canavan..


Is China our friend or foe?

It depends who you ask.

If you’re Andrew Forrest (majority shareholder of iron ore miner Fortescue Metals Group Ltd [ASX:FMG]) or Kerry Stokes (majority owner of Seven Group Holdings Ltd [ASX:SVW]) for example, China’s your friend.

These prominent businessmen owe a great deal of their wealth (or in Forrest’s case, all of it) to China. There are tens of thousands of China-dependents like them all around the country.

But when your relationship is about money and little else, it doesn’t take much to put it under pressure.

As you know, the global economy has ground to a halt because of the coronavirus pandemic. You also know that the virus originated in China. The official story is that it came out of a Wuhan ‘wet market’, where live animals are killed and eaten.

Wuhan also contains the Wuhan Institute of Virology, China’s only level 4 biosecurity lab. There is a growing view that the virus may have accidentally escaped from this lab, rather than the city’s nearby wet markets.

Whatever the case, what we do know is that following the outbreak in Wuhan, China locked down the city and the country internally. But it didn’t lock down international travel until months later.

As India’s Economic Times reports:

‘There is new evidence to show that China locked down all domestic traffic internally by end January 2020 but pushed to open foreign travel till end March. Data from Tom Tom traffic index, a traffic location site that covers 416 cities across 57 countries show that as a result of this strategy, China, intentionally or otherwise, was able to lockdown its cities unknown to the world. While this reduced the spread of the Corona virus within China, China’s aggressive foreign travel policy lead to a virus explosion worldwide’

Scott Morrison is calling for an investigation into the origins of the pandemic, and China aren’t happy.

Now, they are retaliating. They are threatening to place hefty tariffs on our barley exports and have also banned some beef exports.

The official rhetoric is that these actions are not related to the virus investigation. But everyone knows that is rubbish.

Not surprisingly, it’s having an impact on financial markets. The Aussie market has been under renewed pressure over the past few days.

But are these the actions of a friend or foe?

Well, when it comes to international relations, trade is obviously an important part of a relationship. But so are shared political ideals. In the case of China, we have no shared political ideals. Zero.

Well, there are no doubt many on the loony left that think China’s political system is great. You know, those who talk about ‘benevolent dictatorships’ and believe socialism would work if it was only done properly.

But let’s be realistic. China is a communist dictatorship. Australia is a capitalist democracy. Well, it was. Thanks to COVID, we are lurching hard to the left as the state now becomes a greater part of the economy, providing employment and care for everyone.

To be blunt, China (and here I’m talking about the state, not the people) couldn’t care less about Australia. They take full advantage of our free and open markets while denying access to theirs (to the extent they need to protect industries).

They buy up billions worth of our productive farmland and we happily sell it off, knowing full well we’re not dealing with a country that plays by the same rules.

China places restrictions on capital, movement and thought. Oh, and they harvest the organs of political dissidents. On the plus side, there are no wait times for organ transplant surgery…

But now, as soon as we dare ask a tough question, China wants to throw its economic weight around and pressure us with trade threats.

Australia has been soft in the past, so China obviously expect us to fall into line if we want to keep receiving their money. It’s been gaming the rules of the capitalist system ever since it entered the World Trade Organisation 20 years ago. And until Trump came along, successive US governments have let it happen.

Where will Australia go from here?

We will zip it and compliantly take the cash?

Or should we push ahead with calls to investigate just how, why (or whether) China let this virus escape into the world? 

Yes, China is our most important trading partner. But when friends stuff up, you call them out. A good friend is open and honest about their actions. They admit fault. They take responsibility. And hopefully, through self-reflection, they become better people.

But herein lies the main problem in dealing with a socialist/communist mindset.

There is little self-reflection and certainly little concept of taking personal responsibility for actions. When ‘the state’ looks after you, how can there be?

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Did China call for a full enquiry into who "caused" the GFC. I guess everyone already knows, And lucky no-one pointed the finger of blame at which country "caused" the Great Depression, which very arguably, was the catalyst for another world war. Where was the "self-reflection" in all that ? Australia needlessly went to war in a civil war in Vietnam, in defence of nothing more than American prestige, and now appears to want to align itself with an attempt to set China back, which is really only going to harm us, more than anyone else.
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 Quote : Well, there are no doubt many on the loony left that think China’s political system is great. You know, those who talk about ‘benevolent dictatorships’ and believe socialism would work if it was only done properly.

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I don't like dictators, and China is not a socialist state, it is a totalitarian state that has prospered, unlike any other such state in history, and that simply does not happen where people are widely oppressed. The real "system", is Chinese nationalism, and it appears to operate largely by common consent.
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Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

Did China call for a full enquiry into who "caused" the GFC. I guess everyone already knows, And lucky no-one pointed the finger of blame at which country "caused" the Great Depression, which very arguably, was the catalyst for another world war. Where was the "self-reflection" in all that ? Australia needlessly went to war in a civil war in Vietnam, in defence of nothing more than American prestige, and now appears to want to align itself with an attempt to set China back, which is really only going to harm us, more than anyone else.


Do we have a choice.      We are probably the voice of America ATM , with the election coming up.    Things will change if Trump gets another term .
   The talking can then be done from him.      He has heavier boots than us.
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China is emerging as a likely problem on many counts.

An alternative for OZ is to align with the big things in the pipeline for India .     A friendly Democracy , becoming powerful on the World stage.

Will overtake China eventually, in most Trade areas.

Made in India --- reads as an appealing brand.
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Why not form a major trading block to counter their size and power maxie? We could call it the Trans Pacific Partnership(TPP) or something like that. 
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India is small beer compared to China, not in the same league at all.
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Not travelling too bad . INDIA
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The Republic of India is considered one of the emerging superpowers of the world. This potential is attributed to several indicators, the primary ones being its demographic trends and a rapidly expanding economy. In 2015, India became the world's fastest growing economy with an 7.5% estimated GDP rate

The Military of India maintains the largest active duty force in the world as of 2020, while the Indian Paramilitary Forces, over a million strong, is the second largest paramilitary force in the world.The Indian Armed Forces are under the management of the Ministry of Defence (MoD) of the Government of India. With strength of over 1.4 million active personnel, it is the world's second-largest military force and has the world's largest volunteer army.


For most economies in the world, their leading export and import trading partner in terms of value is either the European Union or China, and to a certain degree, the United States and Japan. Other countries like Russia, Brazil, India and South Africa are emerging as significant markets or source countries in different parts of the world

POTENTIAL SUPERPOWERS

    Brazil.
    China.                     (3)
    European Union.
    India.                      (4)
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