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Very sad. Fitting that Carif won the Sandown Cup today for Norzita
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Hopefully they can find a wet nurse for Norzita's orphan foal sired by The Autumn Sun.
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Originally posted by Foxseal Foxseal wrote:

At the expense of sounding like djebel, it is beyond belief that connections would geld this stallion.

He’s a magnificent looking horse, with great blood lines & has just achieved his biggest race win.  Plenty of stayers don’t hit their straps until they are 5 & 6 year olds.  The perfect example is Reckless, who as a 6yo stallion won the Adelaide, Sydney & Brisbane Cups in the one season and then went in to be a good bread & butter sire at stud.

Not sure Voyager’s plan of keeping him going with a Persan style prep would work.  Ciaron Maher is a far superior trainer to the Snowden’s 

Agree totally with your post Foxy.

If this horse was in the Maher/Eustace stable he would not get a three month spell, they would space the races and only run in races at 2400m+.

I also think the horse is better the Melbourne way of going.

I still say that a tick over run in the Bagot, then another 2400m and into the Adelaide Cup, and Andrew Ramsden gives him his chance to get to the better staying races next spring.

But I bet you any money in your pocket he is in the spelling paddock this week!    
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Don't these comments tend to bite you on the @rse at least once? LOL Connections should thank me regardless Wink
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Or perhaps his own words in print? LOL
The only 'funding' coming from this horse will be to bookmakers/agensies/corporates kittys!

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Has a marvelous female family which possesses both sprinting and staying influences.  Can ideally see him standing in NZ provided he doesn't receive too many stout mares.
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Do people think he is capable of more on the track? Or has he reached his ceiling? He is a stakes winner at Listed level. Can he become a Group 1 winner? 
Australian racing is only good up to 1400m in terms of world standards when it comes to depth/quality in numbers
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Or even a Group 2 winner?
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He could snag an Adelaide, Brisbane or Sydney Cup, so yes he could win a G1 or G2.
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Some may have noticed that Jamie Kah rode him far closer than have other riders.  Probably something to remember re his future career.
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I think Jamie Kah should be Carif's permanent rider.
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post-race veterinary examination identified the presence of blood at one nostril. Under the provisions of AR79(8) Carif will be required to undergo a satisfactory gallop of at least 1000 metres in the presence of a Steward before racing again.


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Gear Change,--nuts off!
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Believe it or not this is one horse I have said should be castrated.

Wonder why they waited till after his best win to do so ?

PS, They'll kiss him up. 




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Has he fair dinkum been gelded?


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Apparently been booked in.




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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Apparently been booked in.

You should go with him - might settle you down a bit.  
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Is now 2 stone lighter.

Surely they must target the Adelaide, Sydney and perhaps even the Brisbane Cup (now it has been rightfully set back to 3200m) now?

Melbourne Cup is probably a bridge to far for him, so hopefully they don't waste the opportunities in the autumn by specifically aiming at the one race. 
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He was one horse I always felt might need gelding yet I still need counselling. Angry




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He trialled on March 15th, so what is happening with him?

Not in the TAB market for the Sydney Cup, maybe they are going to Brisbane?
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Surely they'll go to the Brisbane Cup with him now it is back at 3200m.

JRA Plate over 2000m on April 24th looks a logical next start for him, the new Gold Coast Cup over 2400m on Hollindale day next, then Premiers Cup over 2400m at Doomben and the Brisbane Cup, if he can win that they might finally have him start on the first Tuesday.
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Nominated for the JRA Plate this weekend at Randwick. 
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Hope Carif can run well. 
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Common sense surely says he goes to the G3 Premiers Cup (2400m) at Eagle Farm on Saturday week en route to the Brisbane Cup, however they're just as likely to go to the Listed Lord Mayors Cup (2000m) at Rosehill this coming Saturday and then ponder where he should go next.
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You’d think the Snowden’s would be smart enough to finally realise that his peak performances are all 2400m+.

So yes, the Premiers Cup at 2400m clearly stands out as the perfect stepping stone to the 3200m of the Brisbane Cup next month.
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Isn't the G3 Premier's Cup at 2200m? Maybe it got a distance increase to 2400m?
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Ok, no worries thanks for the clarification Shawy. The race must of got a distance increase starting this year. Some handy horses have won the Premier's Cup in recent times: Real Love - 2016, Precedence - 2013. The race has only been in existence since 2006.

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The distance change was actually meant to come in for last seasons renewal before the covid forced reshuffle of the Brisbane carnival, obviously as part of the Brisbane Cup going back to the traditional distance, the Gold Coast Cup over 2400m was also created on May 8, hopefully in time that'll create a progression for stayers from the Sydney carnival via those two races to the Brisbane Cup, who knows, it may even see the Brisbane Cup return to Group 1 level in time.

Talk is they want to get the Qld Sires back to G1 level, and no doubt the big push is also on for the PJ O'Shea with the name change and purse rise but I'm sure they wouldn't mind the Brisbane Cup going back up as well.
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The tit for tatting between kavg, Jamal & Afros adds nothing to thread interest, rather, it detracts from it, so continue & more will be hidden Unhappy
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the horse threw it a way today.
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