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Nathan
Champion Joined: 11 Dec 2008 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 3343 |
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Posted: 24 Dec 2008 at 1:10am |
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Wortel
Champion Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Location: Gold Coast Status: Offline Points: 17050 |
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Too bad she drew poorly in the Diamond. She would have went very close.
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Nathan
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I agree, i was on her and thought she was very unlucky. Was the only horse to stick on from up front and your right, if she drew to the inside she would of gone even closer.
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tooth
Champion Joined: 19 Oct 2007 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 1749 |
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god i remember that day
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Carl
Champion Joined: 08 Jan 2008 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 1398 |
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Talented horse thats for sure. But i'm looking forward to the return of Sienna's Fury and some more antics from the owner. That's one of the better moments of 2008.
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djebel
Premium Joined: 07 Mar 2007 Status: Offline Points: 53960 |
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Just produced a brilliant 2yo winner in Ireland by Galileo - Anthony Van Dyke
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reductio ad absurdum
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djebel
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Second Chance
Champion Joined: 02 Dec 2007 Status: Offline Points: 45318 |
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Having earlier produced a Group 1 winner in Bounding (by Lonhro) downunder.
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djebel
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reductio ad absurdum
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djebel
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On he way to the Derby.
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furious
Champion Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Status: Offline Points: 25066 |
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Believe'n'Succeed a daughter of Exceed and Excel (dam of Bounding) is now at stud in England and her son Anthony Van Dyck won the Derby Trial Stakes over 1 mile 3 1/2f overnight. Now how many Exceed and Excels do we think to send out over a distance in Australia. Some barely make it to 1200m. This one won by 2 1/4 lens. Hope it can run well in the big one.
Edited by Gay3 - 12 May 2019 at 12:00pm |
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djebel
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DERBY WINNER
kiss sake our trainers are kissed. |
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furious
Champion Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Status: Offline Points: 25066 |
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Can't find it but reported him winning a lead up to the Derby. Boy they get out sprinters to stay and we get their stayers to sprint. Then they get a Elvstroem to place in a two year old stakes event and we haven't had much from him in seasons. We really are a world apart in how horses are trained.
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Shrunk in the Wash
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That may be true Furious but the winner races as a 2yo on a forthright back up campaign and started at 1400......Djebel, you hate that stuff
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furious
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Yes but even 1400m in Australia is a test for a Exceed and Excel. Their tracks are testing to say the least and they get quite a few out over a distance. Not just this one. Sure most are sprinters.
Nothing wrong with speed. All the greats started out over a lesser trip and won there before going on to a distance. Mind you he did start in a 7f race but finished 7th of 10 before he won over a mile trip before his run of four 7f runs for G3 win, G2 win, G1 second, G1 third and the a 9th over a mile. Then a listed win over 1m 3 1/2f before this win in the Derby. You can't say that they didn't run him as a two year old he had seven starts. We are hardly even running out sprinting two year olds that much.
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furious
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Even Exceed and Excel only had four two year old starts.
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djebel
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I have absolutely no issue with horses being thoroughly tested as 2yos. It is as they get older that is pisses me off. That said you could see early on that he was looking for a trip as a 2yo. Notice he kicked him off as a 3yo over 2300m. |
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djebel
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Majestic
Champion Joined: 23 Mar 2013 Location: NSW Status: Offline Points: 1303 |
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Love that last stride length on the winner’s rear end
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