Australia's Whip Rules

There is an easy answer. Make the jockey accountable. Increase the fines to $10,000 for every additional strike in breach of the rules. You will see jockeys conforming to the rules immediately. If it doesn't have the desired effect, increase it to $15,000. Suddenly you won't have a problem whatsoever. To start disqualifying horses would penalise punters and owners, which would just make racing more dodgy than it is.

The only reason the whip rule is not being adhered to is:

1). The stewards are doing nothing to enforce it.
2). Jockeys are just breaching the rule because the current penalties are just a bandaid measur.

It is a no brainer, increase the financial penalties for any jockey who breaches the rules.

We won't even be having this discussion if the penalties are far more severe.

bradjm wrote: We won't be having it if we get rid of the dumb rule

I'm with you mate, I wonder how many races Octagonal would have won without the persuader, and many more top class horse I have seen in my time including Tulloch who at times needed a little reminder, the rules an ass, and they crucify Margaret for her thoughts, go figure!

bradjm wrote: We won't be having it if we get rid of the dumb rule

PADDED WHIP

"DAYDREAM EXPLORER"resents it

Go to Kembla race 1 SATURDAY 10 JUNE


THE WHIP STILL WORKS FINE

Good point Gay3 , the young lad has a great tutor if his dad is who I think it may be, there has been a number of times I've seen young jocks hitting a bit low ( flank area) and wondering why they can't " read." the resentment or horses fading while under the whip, the ones that can feel this are either naturals or mature beyond their years, but this should also be shown to the young ones at apprentice school, if anyone had the privilege to watch Geoff Lane , Bill Williamson , or Billy Cook they would understand that having your horse fully balanced and at full stride before the last resort is applied, the debate on the whip rule imo will always cause angst among the racing fraternity, but really it should be back to the apprentice school under the guidance of someone like Darren Gauci.

What is their rule ?

djebel wrote: What is their rule ? They do have the very best hand picked jockeys up there.

They don't have one 

Sneck wrote: djebel wrote: What is their rule ? They do have the very best hand picked jockeys up there. They don't have one

djebel wrote: Sneck wrote: djebel wrote: What is their rule ? They do have the very best hand picked jockeys up there. They don't have one  I guess they can do that in their environment. As I said they have the best hand picked jockeys up there who know what they and their horses are doing. When I watch footage of old races I cringe at the slather and whack they got away with back in the day. Is that why they were lured o/s to ride for royalty and the mega rich , pity the " slather and whack" wasn't employed more today especially for the ones that go around in the human race!

I am not talking George Moores day, I am talking more 80s and 90s.

djebel wrote: I am not talking George Moores day, I am talking more 80s and 90s.

Well thank you djebel for being more specific, suppose I could give you another 10 but I don't want to bore you.

djebel wrote: Carioca wrote: djebel wrote: I am not talking George Moores day, I am talking more 80s and 90s. Well thank you djebel for being more specific, suppose I could give you another 10 but I don't want to bore you. Give me another 10, it will not bore me  Apart from McEvoy riding for Godolphin, who was the last jockey to go to Europe or India to ride for Royalty ?

They go to Asia now.

djebel wrote: Carioca wrote: djebel wrote: I am not talking George Moores day, I am talking more 80s and 90s. Well thank you djebel for being more specific, suppose I could give you another 10 but I don't want to bore you. Fo Give me another 10, it will not bore me  Apart from McEvoy riding for Godolphin, who was the last jockey to go to Europe or India to ride for Royalty ? For Uk royalty the latest ( from reading) would be QLD. jock Russell Maddock before that both Edgar Britt ,Garny Bougoure, and Billy Cook for KG V1 , In India both Britt and Cook for the Maharaja of Baroda, but it's immaterial really, If you get of your pc one day you may like to read Edgar Britt 's book Post Haste on what he said to the Queen about the whip, it's right up your alley.