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    Posted: 19 Sep 2021 at 10:02pm
I am going to try to draw up a list of Australasia's leading money earners in chronological order.

I had to change it as I kept reading it as money lenders LOL Sorry Wink




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Winx
Makybe Diva
Sunline
Octagonal
Super Impose
Better Loosen Up
Horlicks
Our Poetic Prince
Beau Zam
Kingston Town

That is the easy part. It is going to be a lot of searching to get before there.

I suspect Family Of Man was the previous leading money earner before Kingston Town took over the mantel ?







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Gunsynd was a leader at one stage I seem to remember.
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I have a book at home called the $100,000 club.

Horses are Gunsynd, Hydrogen, Lord, Tulloch, Prince Cortauld, Rising Fast, Redcraze, Sailor's Guide, Shannon and Phar Lap. 

So you could look at that group
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Top prize money earners - Australian and New Zealand horses[edit]

HorseSireDamPrize money
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RecordGroup 1
Wins
1) Winx (Aus)Street CryVegas Showgirl$26,451,17443: 37-3-025
2) Redzel (Aus)SnitzelMillrich$16,444,00039: 15-10-32
3) Makybe Diva (GB)Desert KingTugela$14,526,69036: 15-4-37
4) Sunline (NZ)Desert SunSongline$11,351,61048: 32-9-313
5) Northerly (Aus)SerheedNorth Bell$9,341,85037: 19-7-29
6) Verry Elleegant * (NZ)Zed (NZ)Opulence (NZ)$9,270,74431: 14-7-29
6) Chautauqua (Aus)Encosta De LagoLovely Jubly$8,821,93532: 13-7-46
8) So You Think (NZ)High Chaparral (Ire)Triassic$8,813,49723: 14-4-110
9) Classique Legend * (Aus)Not a Single DoubtPinnochio$8,635,50013: 6-2-20
10) Santa Ana Lane (Aus)Lope De VegaFast Fleet$8,236,33644: 10-4-55
11) Nature Strip * (Aus)NicconiStrikeline$8,204,68532: 17-6-06
12) Black Caviar (Aus)Bel EspritHelsinge$7,953,93625: 25-0-015
13) Hartnell (GB)Authorized (Ire)Debonnaire (GB)$7,469,49958: 13-14-94
14) Happy Clapper (Aus)Teofilo (Ire)Busking$7,307,80048: 12-12-63
15) Buffering (Aus)MossmanAction Annie$7,300,19455: 20-9-87
16) Criterion (Aus)SebringMica's Pride$7,268,86536: 7-7-74
17) Yes Yes Yes (Aus)RubickSin Sin Sin$7,174,4508: 4-3-00
18) Sunlight (Aus)ZoustarSolar Charged$6,575,95024: 11-3-53
19) Fields Of Omagh (Aus)RubitonFinneto$6,496,24045: 13-8-73
20) Kolding * (NZ)Ocean ParkMagic Star$6,405,45033: 11-4-33
21) Takeover Target (Aus)Celtic SwingShady Stream$6,348,65041: 21-6-48
22) Fiorente (Ire)Monsun (Ger)Desert Bloom (Ire)$6,265,61120: 6-4-32
23) Tie the Knot (Aus)NassipourWhisked$6,212,83562: 21-9-813
24) Viewed (Aus)ScenicLovers Knot$6,006,53032: 9-4-22
25) Octagonal (NZ)ZabeelEight Carat$5,892,23128: 14-7-110
26) Vow And Declare * (Aus)Declaration of War (US)Geblitzt$5,879,13023: 4-3-31
27) Pierata (Aus)PierroNovember Flight$5,803,94026: 9-7-21
28) Lonhro (Aus)OctagonalShadea$5,790,51035: 26-3-211
29) Elvstroem (Aus)DanehillCircles of Gold$5,722,27432: 10-4-55
30) Bivouac (Aus)Exceed and ExcelDazzler$5,668,86022: 7-4-33
31) Super Impose (NZ)ImposingPheroz Fancy$5,659,35874: 20-24-88
32) Trapeze Artist (Aus)SnitzelTreppes$5,568,75020: 7-1-33
33) It's A Dundeel (NZ)High Chaparral (Ire)Stareel$5,396,90519: 10-4-15
34) Green Moon (Ire)Montjeu (Ire)Green Noon$5,382,99636: 7-4-02
35) Trekking * (Aus)Street Cry (IRE)Outdoor$5,337,44538: 10-6-62
36) Grand Armee (Aus)HennessyTambour$5,328,06531: 13-10-37
37) Almandin (Ger)Monsun (Ger)Anatola (Ger)$5,323,85823: 7-6-12
38) Might and Power (NZ)ZabeelBenediction$5,226,28633: 15-7-17
39) Mummify (Aus)JeuneCleopatra's Girl$5,134,32048: 9-8-95
40) Colette * (Aus)Hallowed CrownLibretto (IRE)$5,072,15518: 6-3-01
41) Sir Dragonet * (IRE)Camelot (GB)Sparrow (IRE)$5,035,17018: 4-4-12

* denotes still racing

The criteria for inclusion in the above list are as follows. The purpose of these criteria is to include only horses that should be recognised as being Australasian.

  1. Horse must have earned at least $5,000,000 (AUD) in total career prizemoney according to Racing Australia (http://www.racingaustralia.horse/).
  2. Horse must have earned at least $2,500,000 (AUD) in total career prizemoney in Australian and/or New Zealand races. Example of horse excluded: Elegant Fashion [(Aus), Danewin - Wily Trick (USA)] won $6,813,232 in career prizemoney, however only $842,600 of that was won in Australian races (the remainder was won in Hong Kong).
  3. Horse must have earned $1,000,000 (AUD) in Australia and/or New Zealand races and/or won at least one Group 1 race when officially trained in Australia or New Zealand. Examples of horses excluded: Dunaden [(Fr), Nicobar (GB) - La Marlia (Fr)] won $8,122,328 (AUD) in career prizemoney, of which $5,600,000 was earned in Australian races (including two Australian Group 1 wins). However, as Dunaden was never officially trained in Australia it has not been included. Americain [(USA), Dynaformer (USA) - America (Ire)] won $5,923,677 (AUD) in career prizemoney, and earned more than $2,500,000 in Australian races. Americain was trained in Australia (by David Hayes) for a short period, however won less than $1,000,000 during that time and did not win a Group 1 race during that time.
    
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It's not the top earners it's the horse at the top of the ladder I think for the eras that he is after.  Let's face it lots of great horses ran at prices of 300 pounds to the winner in a G1.  
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Originally posted by furious furious wrote:

I have a book at home called the $100,000 club.

Horses are Gunsynd, Hydrogen, Lord, Tulloch, Prince Cortauld, Rising Fast, Redcraze, Sailor's Guide, Shannon and Phar Lap. 

So you could look at that group

What a fabulist list of greats there furious , you know Neville Selwood said one day that Prince Cortauld was the best horse he had ever ridden , that was until along came Todman.
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RECORD STAKESWINNERS

AUSTRALASIAN RECORD STAKES WINNERS 
(including all overseas earnings)
Date est.Broken RecordRecord breakerRace in which record brokenCareerLast Race
7/4/1890£12,320CARBINE (NZ)Sydney Cup£29,2624/4/1891
25/02/1922£29,262EURYTHMICFuturity Sks£36,8668/03/1923
8/10/1924£36,866GLOAMINGCraven Plate£43,1009/05/1925
18/10/1930£43,100AMOUNISCaulfield Cup£48,29727/08/1932
21/02/1931£48,297PHAR LAP (NZ)Futurity Sks$147,13020/03/1932
25/11/1948$147,130SHANNONSan Franisco Hcp (last race)$169,47625/11/1948
11/11/1958$169,476SAILOR'S GUIDEWashington DC International$236,1829/07/1960
20/02/1971$236,182DARYL'S JOY (NZ)St Luis Obispo Hcp, Santa Anita;$267,70420/02/1971
31/03/1973$267,704GUNSYNDRawson Stakes$280,45528/04/1973
13/03/1976$280,455TARAS BULBA (NZ)VRC Queen Elizabeth Sks$355,68629/05/1978
4/10/1976$331,412BATTLE HEIGHTS (NZ)AJC Metropolitan$395,15729/10/1977
23/05/1978$395,157BALMERINO (NZ)Clive Graham Stakes$407,7788/07/1978
28/10/1978$407,778FAMILY OF MAN2nd WS Cox Plate$646,24018/12/1990
22/03/1980$644,240MANIKATOGeo Ryder Sks$1,154,21019/03/1983
7/06/1980$705,610KINGSTON TOWNQTC Derby$1,603,26527/11/1983
2/11/1985$1,603,265STRAWBERRY ROAD3rd Breeders Cup$2,209,24925/01/1987
4/03/1989$2,209,249BEAU ZAM (NZ)Seganhoe Stakes$2,209,2491/04/1989
18/03/1989$2,388,675Our POETIC PRINCE (NZ)Tancred Stakes$2,360,6753/06/1989
3/03/1990$2,842,803HORLICKS (NZ)DB Draught Sks$2,842,80327/10/1990
25/11/1990$2,964,999BETTER LOOSEN UPJapan Cup$4,640,3021/02/1993
24/10/1992$4,640,302SUPER IMPOSE (NZ)WS Cox Plate$5,659,3583/11/1992
22/03/1997$5,659,358OCTAGONAL (NZ)Mercedes Stakes$5,892,23112/04/1997
7/04/2001$5,892,231SUNLINE (NZ)WS Cox Plate$11,351,60726/10/2002
22/10/2005$11,351,607MAKYBE DIVA (GB)WS Cox Plate$14,526,6901/11/2005
28/10/2017$14,526,690WINXWS Cox Plate$26,451,175
13/04/2019


Note that by this criteria Tulloch never holds the record owing to Sailor's Guide's international earnings.
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RECORD STAKES WINNERS IN AUSTRALASIA
(Earnings outside of Australia and New Zealand not included)
Date est.Broken recordRecord breakerRace (Won unless specified)Retired $$Last race
  JUNIUS  1829
  JORROCKS  4/10/1852
  SPORTSMAN  13/3/1855
  VENO  13/9/1862
  TIM WHIFFLER >£6,000??/4/1872
  THE BARB £6,9181/5/1869
 £6,918CHESTER £8,1756/11/1880
 £8,175TRIDENT £8,99029/10/1887
 £8,990ABERCORN £12,3209/11/1889
      
7/4/1890£12320CARBINESydney Cup£29,2624/4/1891
25/02/1922£29,262EURYTHMICFuturity Sks£36,8668/03/1923
8/10/1924£36,866GLOAMINGCraven Plate£43,1009/05/1925
18/10/1930£43,100AMOUNISCaulfield Cup£48,29727/08/1932
21/02/1931£48,297PHAR LAPFuturity Sks£56,42520/03/1932
7/11/1953£56,425HYDROGENCB Fisher Plate£59,42930/10/1954
1/09/1956£59,429RISING FASTMemsie Stakes£66,76517/11/1956
26/10/1957£66,765REDCRAZEWS Cox Plate*£71,4815/11/1957
16/04/1960£71,481TULLOCHAutumn Stakes£110,12312/06/1961
28/10/1972$220,246GUNSYNDWS Cox Plate$280,45528/04/1973
13/03/1976$280,455TARAS BULBAVRC Queen Elizabeth Sks$334,41229/05/1978
4/10/1976$331,412BATTLE HEIGHTSAJC Metropolitan$395,15729/10/1977
9/09/1978$395,157FAMILY OF MANCraiglee Stakes$646,24018/12/1990
22/03/1980$589,040MANIKATOGeorge Ryder Sks$1,154,21019/03/1983
7/06/1980$705,610KINGSTON TOWNQTC Derby$1,605,79027/11/1983
9/03/1987$1,605,790BONECRUSHERAustralian Cup$2,172,8699/12/1989
2/04/1988$1,907,523BEAU ZAMAJC Derby$2,388,6751/04/1989
18/03/1989$2,360,675(Our) POETIC PRINCETancred Stakes$2,845,5503/06/1989
12/03/1990$2,845,550VO ROGUEAustralian Cup$3,116,10020/05/1991
11/03/1991$2,982,100BETTER LOOSEN UPAustralian Cup$3,510,2451/02/1993
5/10/1991$3,510,245SUPER IMPOSEEpsom Handicap$5,659,3583/11/1992
22/03/1997$5,659,358OCTAGONALMercedes Stakes$5,892,23112/04/1997
7/04/2001$5,892,231TIE THE KNOTMercedes Stakes$6,212,83523/03/2002
28/10/2000$6,212,835SUNLINEWS Cox Plate$9,895,94426/10/2002
22/10/2005$9,895,944MAKYBE DIVAWS Cox Plate$14,526,6901/11/2005
28/10/2017$14,526,690WINXWS Cox Plate$26,451,17513/04/2019

The first six are speculative but I am confident they could be the only horses that could have claimed to have won record stakes prior to Chester.  Mormon may have gone very close in the 1860's but it difficult to be specific.  Sweepstakes and match races complicate matters further in the early days.

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Welcome back Tontonan Clap hope all's well. 
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Welcome back from me too Hug & does this guy qualify or no 'pop-up' prizemoney?
Nature Strip Prizemoney: $14,953,685
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Would have to get to Winx's retirement figure ($26,451,175) to make the list
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Originally posted by Gay3 Gay3 wrote:

Welcome back from me too Hug & does this guy qualify or no 'pop-up' prizemoney?
Nature Strip Prizemoney: $14,953,685

This a list of horses that led the money list. 

Not all the horses that have won a lot of money. 

Not sure what was wrong with the opening heading. 


Thanks Tontonan. As usual, outstanding. Thanks.




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Hmmm, thanks for the enlightenment which I now understand clearly. How one can be so thick, beggars belief? Confused
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Hello everybody. 

I had to withdraw from social media for a spell.  There was too much dirty air... and I had to move house in the middle of a pandemic.  The good news is that I am now happily residing on the seaside which is a fine place to be locked down if you have to be locked down.


These lists were put together sometime ago on the other forum so rather than watch others try to reinvent the wheel I thought I would roll them out.  

There are some interesting aspects to these tables.  For example there is no mare on the the lists until Sunline, then Makybe Diva and Winx, the last three on the list, the three record stakeswinners in the 21st century.  That is down right peculiar and warrants an explanation that is beyond me.

The biggest gap between records being broken - or the longest standing record if you like - is Carbine's 31 years 10 months and 18 days before Eurythmic passed him in 1922.   That might have something to do with the fact that Carbine raced through the final stages of an economic bubble, the long boom off the back of the gold rush,  that burst in spectacular fashion not long after he retired ... and a World War which scuttled the recovery ... and that Carbine was a freaking champion !  

Phar Lap's record stood for 22 years 8 months and 16 days which is remarkable given that Phar Lap raced through an economic depression with falling prizemoney but the longevity of his record was helped by another world war.  

The next longest was Tulloch's reign as prizemoney champion of 12 years 6 months and 12 days through the period of the post war boom, a period of stability and low inflation,  just ahead of Makybe Diva's reign of 12 years and 6 days. 

The shortest reign as prizemoney champion was 14 days when Beau Zam won the Segenhoe Stakes on 4 March 1989 to break Strawberry Road's international record before Our Poetic Prince broke Beau Zam's record winning the Tancred a fortnight later. 

As for pop up prizemoney,  it is not a problem.  In the old colonial lists there are horses listed who won the majority of their prizemoney in match races in which the owners would furnish half the prize each on a winner take all basis. Money is money.  We don't discriminate here. 




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Nice to see you back Tontonan.

Adding the US list which is interesting to compare.
Current Top 30 with 3 active runners.
US horses who have won prizemoney in the Middle East is included.
Also Europeans who have had one start in North America are included.

1 Arrogate  Unbridled's Song                  11   7  1   1 $17,422,600
2 Thunder Snow (IRE)  Helmet (AUS)            24   8  7   4 $16,511,476
3 Gun Runner  Candy Ride (ARG)                19  12  3   2 $15,988,500
4 California Chrome Lucky Pulpit              27  16  4   1 $14,752,650
5 Enable (GB) Nathaniel (IRE)                 19  15  2   1 $14,062,824
*6  Maximum Security  New Year's Day          14  10  2   0 $12,431,900
7 Espoir City (JPN) Gold Allure (JPN)         40  17  10  3 $11,443,812
8 Highland Reel (IRE) Galileo (IRE)           27  10  6   3 $10,530,964
9 Curlin  Smart Strike                        16  11  2   2 $10,501,800
10  Cigar Palace Music                        33  19  4   5 $9,999,815
11  Skip Away Skip Trial                      38  18  10  6 $9,616,360
12  Flintshire (GB) Dansili (GB)              24  8   12  1 $9,589,910
13  Gloria de Campeao (BRZ) Impression (ARG)  25  9   6   3 $9,258,355
14  So You Think (NZ) High Chaparral (IRE)    23  14  4   1 $8,696,325
15  American Pharoah  Pioneerof the Nile      11  9   1   0 $8,650,300
16  Fantastic Light Rahy                      25  12  5   3 $8,486,957
17  Animal Kingdom  Leroidesanimaux (BRZ)     12  5   5   0 $8,387,500
18  St Nicholas Abbey (IRE) Montjeu (IRE)     21  9   2   7 $7,863,492
19  Invasor (ARG) Candy Stripes               12  11  0   0 $7,804,070
20  Pleasantly Perfect  Pleasant Colony       18  9   3   2 $7,789,880
21  Smarty Jones  Elusive Quality              9  8   1   0 $7,613,155
22  Found (IRE) Galileo (IRE)                 21  6   11  3 $7,610,405
*23 Mystic Guide  Ghostzapper                  9  4   3   2 $7,593,200
24  Wise Dan  Wiseman's Ferry                 31  23  2   0 $7,556,160
25  Midnight Bisou  Midnight Lute             22  13  6   3 $7,471,520
26  Zenyatta  Street Cry (IRE)                20  19  1   0 $7,304,580
27  Authentic Into Mischief                    8   6  2   0 $7,201,200
28  Goldikova (IRE) Anabaa                    27  17  6   3 $7,176,551
29  Bricks and Mortar Giant's Causeway        13  11  0   2 $7,085,650
30  Silver Charm  Silver Buck                 24  12  7   2 $6,944,369


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I found this racing.com article from 2019 which also had a list world wide - with conversion of local stakes earned to English pounds.


Arrogate #1, Winx #2, Gun Runner #3.

then Japanese horses 4-8

Gentildonna
Orfevre
Kitasan Black
Buena Vista
Gold Ship
California Chrome (US)
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I am still cobbling this list together but the succession of record stakes winners in the USA in the past 100 years  seems to be :

MAN O'WAR
20 October 1923 Zev
6 September 1930 Gallant Fox
1 August 1931 Sun Beau
2 March 1940 Seabiscuit
15 July 1942 Whirlaway
28 June 1947 Stymie
9 October 1947 Armed
25 October 1947 Stymie
3 June 1950 Citation
19 May 1956 Nashua
11 October 1958 Round Table
31 October 1964 Kelso
6 October 1979 Affirmed
 19 July 1980 Spectacular Bid.  
10 October 1981 John Henry
5 November 1988 Alysheba
27 March 1996 Cigar
27 September 2008 Curlin
26 March 2016 California Chrome
25 March 2017 Arrogate

The date being when the previous record was broken.
I will flesh the table out in more detail later on but that is the succession.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote brave_ponies Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 hours 34 minutes ago at 7:51am
Great to have you back Tontonan! And terrific to hear you're living a good life by the seaside. Cheers, BP Hug
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Yes must admit living by the seaside would be nicer than walking the dogs around the neighbourhood because the river walk is too busy!  Some very good horses on the above lists.  Even though some are well and truly overlooked when champions are talked about.
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