Andrea Mantegna

I do not want to be a party pooper and I could be talking through my pocket but I thought he was rather lacklustre.

reductio ad absurdum

That was a vast improvement jumped perfectly.

reductio ad absurdum

Thanks to CG for the detailed explanation on Andrea’s last start failure at Gawler.

Well if he is pressing on for another start this winter, there’s a 3200m hurdle worth $45,000 on at Morphettville next weekend. I’m not expecting noms to be that strong, so it might be a race to think about. He’s done pretty well on 3 previous trips to Morphettville with a win & 2 placings from 3 starts.

You’re welcome.
I’m only a minor entry in a syndicate so don’t have much say.
I’ve been extremely happy with RTD and Archie so will trust their decision.

For those that are interested. The post race report below:

What a frustrating race to watch for owners of big Magna who made the trip to Gawler to contest another hurdle race last Saturday. With winkers added to get him to focus more on his racing. he jumped well from the barrier and settled into third spot just as the leaders dropped anchor, and he fired up immediately. Unfortuanately the pace was horrible for a lap and a half, and Magna pulled all the way. Jockey Richard Cully should have given him his head and allowed him to bowl along in front. Instead he chose to fight him for 2000m, and no horse can finish a race off after doing that much work in the run. He did however work to the line well under the circumstances to finish fourth. The horse has pulled up remarkably well and we will plan to take the winkers off and change jockeys before finding him another jumps race before the end of the season.

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He still overraces rather fiercely.
Only just missed.

Handy hurdler resuming tonight at MV over 1600m.

Has changed stables from Archie Alexander to Paul Preuesker. Can’t recall Paul having many jumpers over the years.

Hopefully part-owner Crooked Gambler is still around & can give us some insight on reason for the stable change.

Cheers CG.

Another tidy run by your boy today Crooked Gambler - 3rd in the Wang Cup.

He might be able to pick up a flat race before he goes jumping again.

He did a good job CG

Terrific run again today.

Hope CG had some loose change on him for the place.

Just a little update on Magna, he�s had another change of trainers . So many I�ve lost count LOL

Unfortunately because of the whole border shutdown and our intention of targeting a couple of those weaker Adelaide staying races we have had to transfer him to an Adelaide trainer.

We have been lucky enough to find a beach set up with David Jolly so he will be staying with David until he comes back to Victoria

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Stuck on ok today for 4th at Gawler.

Should be one of these weaker SA staying races for him this campaign.

Not happy about the decision at all.

What is the point of having a whip rule if they are not going to do anything about it? I am of the belief that if you break a rule, you be disqualified. Just like you would for a swab or weighing in light.

How one can clearly cheat and not just one rule, he used the whip 13 times (that�s nearly triple the allowance) he also used it in multiple strides which is also not allowed.

Clearly the rule is a joke if the Stewards think a piss weak fine and jockey suspension is acceptable. Who is to say if we were allowed to use the whip more that our horse wins.... we did the right thing and the other horse didn�t. Not happy Jan!!!

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Got the choccies today Clap

Magna has travelled back over to Vic and is going around in the Horsham Cup today with M Rodd on board

Have had a long term plan to target this race along with the Ararat Cup so expect him to run well today Fingers crossed

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Xavier Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Champion Joined: 28 Jul 2016 Location: Melbourne Status: Offline Points: 3660	Post Options Post Reply Quote Xavier Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 Apr 2019 at 1:26pm
	He did a good job
	Karl and Susan Kennedy are my heroes

djebel Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Premium Joined: 07 Mar 2007 Status: Offline Points: 53960	Post Options Post Reply Quote djebel Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 Apr 2019 at 1:51pm
	I do not want to be a party pooper and I could be talking through my pocket but I thought he was rather lacklustre.
	reductio ad absurdum

Xavier Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Champion Joined: 28 Jul 2016 Location: Melbourne Status: Offline Points: 3660	Post Options Post Reply Quote Xavier Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 May 2019 at 1:18pm
	Congrats CG and co.
	Karl and Susan Kennedy are my heroes

djebel Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Premium Joined: 07 Mar 2007 Status: Offline Points: 53960	Post Options Post Reply Quote djebel Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 May 2019 at 2:05pm
	That was a vast improvement jumped perfectly.
	reductio ad absurdum

Xavier Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Champion Joined: 28 Jul 2016 Location: Melbourne Status: Offline Points: 3660	Post Options Post Reply Quote Xavier Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 May 2019 at 2:40pm
	A lot of them always seem to improve second time around
	Karl and Susan Kennedy are my heroes

Lord Hybrow Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Champion Joined: 05 Jul 2015 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 6663	Post Options Post Reply Quote Lord Hybrow Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 Jul 2019 at 6:17pm
	Thanks to CG for the detailed explanation on Andrea’s last start failure at Gawler. Well if he is pressing on for another start this winter, there’s a 3200m hurdle worth $45,000 on at Morphettville next weekend. I’m not expecting noms to be that strong, so it might be a race to think about. He’s done pretty well on 3 previous trips to Morphettville with a win & 2 placings from 3 starts.

Second Chance Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Champion Joined: 02 Dec 2007 Status: Offline Points: 45686	Post Options Post Reply Quote Second Chance Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 Jul 2019 at 6:23pm
	All things being equal the fact he over-raced last start wasn't a real good sign. Guess we'll all know a bit more next time around.

crooked_gambler Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Champion Joined: 27 Jan 2015 Status: Offline Points: 4676	Post Options Post Reply Quote crooked_gambler Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 Jul 2019 at 6:36pm
	You’re welcome. I’m only a minor entry in a syndicate so don’t have much say. I’ve been extremely happy with RTD and Archie so will trust their decision. For those that are interested. The post race report below: What a frustrating race to watch for owners of big Magna who made the trip to Gawler to contest another hurdle race last Saturday. With winkers added to get him to focus more on his racing. he jumped well from the barrier and settled into third spot just as the leaders dropped anchor, and he fired up immediately. Unfortuanately the pace was horrible for a lap and a half, and Magna pulled all the way. Jockey Richard Cully should have given him his head and allowed him to bowl along in front. Instead he chose to fight him for 2000m, and no horse can finish a race off after doing that much work in the run. He did however work to the line well under the circumstances to finish fourth. The horse has pulled up remarkably well and we will plan to take the winkers off and change jockeys before finding him another jumps race before the end of the season.
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Lord Hybrow Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Champion Joined: 05 Jul 2015 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 6663	Post Options Post Reply Quote Lord Hybrow Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 Jul 2019 at 2:37pm
	Well I’m on Andrea today. Surprised he’s third in the market, thought he’d be fave. Robbies Star generally needs super heavy track to show his best, whilst I don’t think the form behind You’ll Dash For Cash is very strong. I reckon AM is well placed. Give him strength 🤞

SkyDancer Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Champion Joined: 02 Aug 2014 Location: Cranbourne Status: Offline Points: 8429	Post Options Post Reply Quote SkyDancer Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 Jul 2019 at 3:37pm
	He still overraces rather fiercely. Only just missed.

crooked_gambler Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Champion Joined: 27 Jan 2015 Status: Offline Points: 4676	Post Options Post Reply Quote crooked_gambler Report Post Thanks(1) Quote Reply Posted: 02 Aug 2019 at 2:45pm
	He tries so hard, decided to send him for a well deserved spell. See below stable report: It was another huge effort by big Magna on Saturday in Adelaide to only just miss again for a second. Ridden much more positively by Tom Ryan the horse was a little keen early and he was allowed to stride along and went to the lead. Coming to the final two hurdles a win looked likely. Unfortunately he just hit the last hurdle at pace and lost a little momentum, and the horse inside him snuck up for a win by the barest of margins. His current preparation has ticked over 12 months and we now feel it's time to give him a well earned spell. He will have a good three to four month break now and be prepared for the Warrnambool carnival next season.
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Lord Hybrow Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Champion Joined: 05 Jul 2015 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 6663	Post Options Post Reply Quote Lord Hybrow Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 Feb 2020 at 2:58pm
	Handy hurdler resuming tonight at MV over 1600m. Has changed stables from Archie Alexander to Paul Preuesker. Can’t recall Paul having many jumpers over the years. Hopefully part-owner Crooked Gambler is still around & can give us some insight on reason for the stable change.

crooked_gambler Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Champion Joined: 27 Jan 2015 Status: Offline Points: 4676	Post Options Post Reply Quote crooked_gambler Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 Feb 2020 at 5:47pm
	Hey everyone. The big fella is tracking up well for his target of the May Carnival at Warrnambool. Will definitely need a few flat races to build up some fitness before he hits the hurdle trials The crew felt as though Pauls facilities would be better suited to the horse, lots of swimming and sand work. He has thrived in the country air but he is just going for a night out tonight.
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Second Chance Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Champion Joined: 02 Dec 2007 Status: Offline Points: 45686	Post Options Post Reply Quote Second Chance Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 Feb 2020 at 5:52pm
	Cheers CG.

crooked_gambler Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Champion Joined: 27 Jan 2015 Status: Offline Points: 4676	Post Options Post Reply Quote crooked_gambler Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 Feb 2020 at 10:04pm
	Battled on well for a 4th placing. Can go to bed with a smile on my face.
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Lord Hybrow Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Champion Joined: 05 Jul 2015 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 6663	Post Options Post Reply Quote Lord Hybrow Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 Feb 2020 at 10:26pm
	Another tidy run by your boy today Crooked Gambler - 3rd in the Wang Cup. He might be able to pick up a flat race before he goes jumping again.

crooked_gambler Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Champion Joined: 27 Jan 2015 Status: Offline Points: 4676	Post Options Post Reply Quote crooked_gambler Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 May 2020 at 12:43pm
	Magna pulled up with a couple of little issues at Warrnambool so he has gone down to Kel Bourke at Geelong who has been training him on the beach He is having a spin around today to see if we can get his prep back on the right track Will be looking to see him making late ground
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SkyDancer Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Champion Joined: 02 Aug 2014 Location: Cranbourne Status: Offline Points: 8429	Post Options Post Reply Quote SkyDancer Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 May 2020 at 5:30pm
	He did a good job CG

Lord Hybrow Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Champion Joined: 05 Jul 2015 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 6663	Post Options Post Reply Quote Lord Hybrow Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 May 2020 at 9:18pm
	Good run today CG 👍. Kelvin Bourke is a wily old trainer. Gun jumps jockey in the 70’s. He used to train heaps of jumpers in the 80’s & 90’s but haven’t seen him with one for many years. Hope your boy can put him back in the jumps racing winners circle.

Lord Hybrow Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Champion Joined: 05 Jul 2015 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 6663	Post Options Post Reply Quote Lord Hybrow Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 Jun 2020 at 6:15pm
	Terrific run again today. Hope CG had some loose change on him for the place.

crooked_gambler Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Champion Joined: 27 Jan 2015 Status: Offline Points: 4676	Post Options Post Reply Quote crooked_gambler Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 Jun 2020 at 6:48pm
	Thanks LH. Very happy with Magna today. He is always so honest. The plan is to target some of those 2400+ races in Adelaide, today was a good start.
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crooked_gambler Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Champion Joined: 27 Jan 2015 Status: Offline Points: 4676	Post Options Post Reply Quote crooked_gambler Report Post Thanks(1) Quote Reply Posted: 03 Jul 2020 at 4:18pm
	Just a little update on Magna, he�s had another change of trainers . So many I�ve lost count Unfortunately because of the whole border shutdown and our intention of targeting a couple of those weaker Adelaide staying races we have had to transfer him to an Adelaide trainer. We have been lucky enough to find a beach set up with David Jolly so he will be staying with David until he comes back to Victoria
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	Glad to see he'll be in a beach environment at Goolwa (I assume?) & no doubt you are too. He won't be losing anything thru' the trainer switch anyway. BOL cg & thanks
	Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!

Lord Hybrow Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Champion Joined: 05 Jul 2015 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 6663	Post Options Post Reply Quote Lord Hybrow Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 Jul 2020 at 3:52pm
	Stuck on ok today for 4th at Gawler. Should be one of these weaker SA staying races for him this campaign.

Lord Hybrow Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Champion Joined: 05 Jul 2015 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 6663	Post Options Post Reply Quote Lord Hybrow Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 Aug 2020 at 9:07pm
	Love to hear your thoughts on today�s race CG? 2nd over the line but certainly a controversial result.

crooked_gambler Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Champion Joined: 27 Jan 2015 Status: Offline Points: 4676	Post Options Post Reply Quote crooked_gambler Report Post Thanks(1) Quote Reply Posted: 16 Aug 2020 at 1:28pm
	Not happy about the decision at all. What is the point of having a whip rule if they are not going to do anything about it? I am of the belief that if you break a rule, you be disqualified. Just like you would for a swab or weighing in light. How one can clearly cheat and not just one rule, he used the whip 13 times (that�s nearly triple the allowance) he also used it in multiple strides which is also not allowed. Clearly the rule is a joke if the Stewards think a piss weak fine and jockey suspension is acceptable. Who is to say if we were allowed to use the whip more that our horse wins.... we did the right thing and the other horse didn�t. Not happy Jan!!!
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VOYAGER Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Champion Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 18735	Post Options Post Reply Quote VOYAGER Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 Aug 2020 at 7:51pm
	Feel for you CG, but I think we can now safely say with the evidence we have that the rule is just a piece of window dressing for the animal rights activists and it has nothing to do with actual racing rule breaches.
	Remember, it might take intelligence to be smart , but it takes experience to be wise

Shawy38 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Champion Joined: 13 Jun 2015 Status: Offline Points: 17379	Post Options Post Reply Quote Shawy38 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 Aug 2020 at 4:26pm
	Got the choccies today

Lord Hybrow Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Champion Joined: 05 Jul 2015 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 6663	Post Options Post Reply Quote Lord Hybrow Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 Aug 2020 at 4:26pm
	Tough effort & richly deserved win

crooked_gambler Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Champion Joined: 27 Jan 2015 Status: Offline Points: 4676	Post Options Post Reply Quote crooked_gambler Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 Oct 2020 at 1:37pm
	Magna has travelled back over to Vic and is going around in the Horsham Cup today with M Rodd on board Have had a long term plan to target this race along with the Ararat Cup so expect him to run well today Fingers crossed
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