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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Vivarchi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Feb 2021 at 6:01pm
Another Group 1 winner for the great horse American Pharoah. This time in Japan at a mile for Cafe Pharoah.

That's Group 1's in America, France and Japan now.  He's going well.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Second Chance Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Feb 2021 at 6:16pm
Absolutely Vivarchi.  Thumbs Up

But for whatever reason still unwilling to buy into his SH stock atm, which is very possibly a mistake. 
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Originally posted by Vivarchi Vivarchi wrote:

Another Group 1 winner for the great horse American Pharoah. This time in Japan at a mile for Cafe Pharoah.

That's Group 1's in America, France and Japan now.  He's going well.

He *should* be going well, given the quality of mares he has seen in the northern hemisphere!

G1 Harvey's Lil Goil -- out of a half-sister to KY Derby winner I'll Have Another
G1 Van Gogh -- out of English Oaks/Irish 1000 Guineas mare Imagine, dam of 4 other stakes winners, 2nd dam produced Generous  3rd dam is blue hen Margarethen
G1 Cafe Pharoah -- out of G2 winning More Than Ready mare who produced 2 other graded stakes winners 
JPN-1 Danon Pharoah -- dam is Gr-1 winner and half-sister to LW, 2nd dam is half-sister to dam of G2 Spellbinder, G3 WhyWhyWhy, and G3Pl Big Top, from the Igual branch of the Mahubah family
G2 Four Wheel Drive -- out of a More Than Ready mare from the family of millionaire Dynever, BC winner Furthest Land, multiple G2 SW Ready for Rye, etc.  
G2 Sweet Melania -- out of a Listed winning half-sister to G2 Travelin Man and G2 Discreet Dancer, from the Lassie's Lady branch of the Lassie Dear family (Ruler of the World, Duke of Marmalade, Annus Mirabilis, etc)
G2 Pista -- dam is Galileo daughter of champion Denebola, from the Coup de Folie branch of the Almahmoud family
G3 Maven -- first foal of a Listed-winning half sister to G3 winner and dam of LW/G1Pl, 
LW Another Miracle -- out of a Listed winning Medaglia D'Oro mare from the family of top Canadian sprinter Passion for Action.  3rd dam is a Gr-3 winner with lots of stakes production
LW Thankful -- dam produced G3 winner and another listed winner, 2nd dam is G3 winner, 3rd dam is G2 winner
G1Pl Monarch of Egypt -- out of G2 winning Galileo mare, 2nd dam produced Dutch Art
G3Pl Skygaze -- GSPl dam produced G2W and two LWs before this one

He should be getting excellent racehorses out of mares like this. 

The way he's started out reminds me quite a lot of Giant's Causeway: tremendous support from the very best Coolmore has to offer, rode on the coattails of his mares' achievements until finding out what worked for him and what didn't, and then settling into a useful stallion career that is perhaps just a shade below absolute top class..."very good" rather than "excellent."  Over time, Coolmore bred fewer and fewer of their top mares to him, even though he continued to sire good horses, and only one of his stallion sons is on any of their rosters (Footstepsinthesand). 

Coolmore bred a lot of their Galileo mares to him, as an outcross to that saturation in their mare population.  If he doesn't show good-enough production with Galileo mares he's much more likely to follow the path Giant's Causeway did.
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Thank you for that extensive list. It will give us something to benchmark Am Ph against 
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