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Hello Sunshine
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Posted: 27 Nov 2023 at 10:09am |
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Thank goodness the voice didnt work. That was their strategy.
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Posted: 27 Nov 2023 at 10:11am |
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Your children need to get of their butts and look after themselves. why the hell is aus importing labour?
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Posted: 27 Nov 2023 at 10:11am |
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You do realise the Liberals are also tax increasers HS? They just play some smoke and mirrors games with it better than the ALP so they can present it as a tax cut when in actual fact most don't get any cuts.
Also on the support for the ALP dropping, the reality is that both major parties are seeing a drop in support, there is a good % of the voters who feel that both parties have lost touch with the realities of life and if you've ever met and talked to an up and coming star of either party, its hard not to agree with that. The Nationals may buck that trend but that is only because a bunch of their votes are welded to them and incapable of seeing that the Nationals care less about their interests than the Greens that they fear. It would be interesting to see the demographics of each parties core voters, but I suspect the Nationals voters average age would only be increasing.
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The worlds oldest fossil was discovered in Australia, they named it Rupert Murdoch.
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Posted: 27 Nov 2023 at 10:12am |
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Marbles number scenario....
![]() Another reason labor import people because they are the ones voting for them.
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Posted: 27 Nov 2023 at 10:14am |
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Another reason the rise of right wing governments, refugees and imported workers.
I have to say, sadly.
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Posted: 27 Nov 2023 at 10:18am |
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Afros, excuses, excuses.
Feeling vulnerable are you?
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Posted: 27 Nov 2023 at 10:19am |
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I'm not a fan of super in its current form but it has nothing to do with right wing populism. I'd prefer if my super was helping pay for a residence I could live in when I retire. We all die and and we all need a place to live, especially when you've retired. The gov should set up a plan were if you are not a home owner you can opt into a social housing plan, a plan where a percentage of your super money goes towards building social housing, and you as a retiree are entitled should you opt in, to live in one of these places when you retire, and you can live there until you die, no leases. Then when you pass on, that property goes up vacant again for the next pensioner etc and on again and so forth. If you are a home owner already you cannot opt in to the scheme, its only for older folk with no property or work income and retired.
The way it is now, your super isn't doing sht, it's just being used by day traders as capitol to do as they please. Proper Gov should have all sorts of schemes and plans for you and your money should you wish to opt in.
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Posted: 27 Nov 2023 at 10:20am |
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the bottom line to all of this
the conservatives were in for 10 years prior to this government. it is a democracy people. A democracy.
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Posted: 27 Nov 2023 at 10:21am |
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I rest my case.
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Posted: 27 Nov 2023 at 10:23am |
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But the UNIONS love super.
The biggest fund is UNION driven.
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Posted: 27 Nov 2023 at 10:26am |
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Not really. Are you in favour of people freely protesting ?
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reductio ad absurdum
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Posted: 27 Nov 2023 at 10:27am |
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The rise of these right wing organisations is due mostly to certain demographics bringing their dangerous religious troubles to peaceful multicultural or homogenous democracies, plain and simple. People want to protect their way of life if its safe and secure, they should be allowed to preserve tradition and not feel they have to give it up to simply make others happy. People don't want danger/crime/drugs coming into their sphere ruining their way of life, which is what seems to be happening around the world. If we were all happy and safe and there was no trouble or terror etc in our backyards then right wing loonies don't get a look in, it's a weird juxtaposition, but hey those are becoming more common by the day.
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Posted: 27 Nov 2023 at 10:30am |
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Yes
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Posted: 27 Nov 2023 at 10:32am |
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And far left bodies ?
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Posted: 27 Nov 2023 at 10:39am |
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My children all have jobs (except my son who does some unpaid work thank you). One without a house has saved up $100K but can't get into the house market. She is up at 5 every work day and home between 6 and 7.30 so how much harder do you want her to work.
Another daughter can only work 20 hours (including travel) as she is a full time career for husband with MS. But she does what she can and her 15 year old daughter is looking for a job this christmas. Another daughter works for NRMA insurance and also does art for commissions - also can't get into housing or unit. THe bank told her to get married - just after a painful breakup. Another daughter is so busy at work she ends up working 6 days a week. She does have a unit but even so she lives close to breaking point with payments. The youngest has a husband with a party hire business and works for that as well. THey had a fun time during covid only just having bought out his father! So I guess I do have hard workers - they just have trouble keeping their noses in the clear if they have a home or just can't get to a point where the bank will lone them enough to get into the market.
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Posted: 27 Nov 2023 at 10:42am |
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Also Hello Sunshine my unemployed son isn't on benefits! He prefers to do things like making things for people etc and getting some payment for that.
I've voted for Liberals in the past but I don't like the lies. I can see through that and it turns me off voting for them. But neither side has the answers at the moment it seems.
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Posted: 27 Nov 2023 at 10:48am |
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That’s not how super is invested at all. As for your idea of it helping pay for a residence when you retire. You are aware that at some point you will be able to withdraw the entire amount and do whatever you want with it right? You could even…….use it to fund a residence when you retire.
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Posted: 27 Nov 2023 at 11:06am |
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Oh I do understand who hard it is to find people to do a job. But is that people finding the job to hard for what they can earn? Daughter who is having to work 6 days a week is because she is doing a job which takes two people but everyone who they hire to help can't seem to get a hang of the job and leave.
I don't understand as in my job over the year I had to take the computer with me because no one else seem to want to do my job. Every time I found someone I got home to never again. It's not hard just tedious sometimes but I guess I've been doing something similar since I was a teenager and you get used to it. Coming in cold doesn't seem to work.
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Posted: 27 Nov 2023 at 11:51am |
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If you mean buy a property ? there'd be none left to spend on day to day life ? A lot of peoples super including mine, isn't going to be anywhere near enough to buy anything other than a caravan or motorhome, something I've considered. If you have too much super you can't get the pension, if you have a lot of super and can buy a flat you'd still be left with nothing to live off. Can you imagine the rents renting private in ten years for an old person with no income ? It would be nice if we had a safety net and could invest in social housing for pensioners via super, so you are in effect helping pave the way for secure housing for retirees for many years to come. Lets face it there are going to be more and more retirees with no property ownership as we move forward. If property keeps going up in value then less and less people will become new home owners and its this group and others that follow that will need some form of secure housing as they transition out of work to retiring.
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Posted: 27 Nov 2023 at 12:29pm |
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Ok and if your super won’t be enough to buy a property then how do you expect contributing in some other way would magically allow you to be housed in retirement? What you’re asking for is a government handout.
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Posted: 27 Nov 2023 at 2:21pm |
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Look, I understand comprhension isn't a strong point for you but if you go back and look at the results of say the last 10 federal elections in this country (Wikipedia is an easy to use source) you will see a long term swing down of ALP and Lib votes out of the total of the votes. It's hardly a secret, PT even mentions it from time to time on these forums.
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Posted: 27 Nov 2023 at 3:13pm |
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I don't think you understood my post - conservatives won the lying race
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Posted: 27 Nov 2023 at 5:06pm |
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Not lying marble...''free speech''.
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Posted: 27 Nov 2023 at 6:01pm |
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Because its a short term thing, most blokes are going to die around 80 at best so that's only 15 years tops they need somewhere to live, this is short term housing that can house all old folk who aren't lucky enough to be wealthy. Paying into a scheme where you are guaranteed a small clean place to live in until you die isn't a handout, its more a thank you for your work/taxes and some of your super money has helped build these places.
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Posted: 27 Nov 2023 at 6:05pm |
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A roof over your head AS WELL as food to eat.
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And The Boys Light Up.... !
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Posted: 27 Nov 2023 at 6:06pm |
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I don't eat much, small meal a day will suffice.
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Posted: 27 Nov 2023 at 6:35pm |
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I'm on a diet at the moment Fiddler.
Fairly basic - just eat all the right foods. Trying to lose 10 kgs prior to Xmas
Typical day - that believe it or not keeps me feeling pretty full all the time. Drink lots of water (distilled) amongst the following. Breakfast * bowl of fresh fruit (grapes / melon / orange / apple) with a small dollop of low calorie yoghurt * 1 boiled egg Mid-morning * handful of mixed nuts Lunch * small serving of skinned chicken + fresh garden salad + low calorie French Dressing * an apple or an orange Afternoon * An apple, orange or another mixed bowl of fruit * throw in a few more nuts if you must Dinner * nice serving of lean meat or fish or salmon + salad (green, caesar or similar) * garnish above with some niceties (let your hair down - you deserve it )* a small cheese platter for desert Late Night Snack (Optional) * 2 large Domino Pizzas with the lot (thin pastry) * 6 pack of KFC with extra BBQ sauce * 6 pack of Jam Donuts * 1 box of Cadbury Favourites * 1 large pack of Darrel Lea Liquorice Bullets |
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And The Boys Light Up.... !
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Posted: 27 Nov 2023 at 6:45pm |
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Just preparing all that would take all day..
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Posted: 27 Nov 2023 at 6:46pm |
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The Late night Snack not so much
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And The Boys Light Up.... !
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Posted: 27 Nov 2023 at 6:58pm |
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Went to buy some bullets the other night from garage, they wanted $7.50 for a bag of bullets ?????
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