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    Posted: 23 Nov 2023 at 3:13pm

September 2023 Axios reported..

International Trump support reflects a global phenomenon: The hard right, once fringe, is gaining power and popularity across Europe, Latin America and elsewhere.

Why it matters: Immigration, inflation and the rising cost of climate policy are creating potent new targets for populism, the Economist reports.

Zoom in: In Europe, nationalist or far-right parties are growing in Germany, France, Italy, the Netherlands, Belgium, Switzerland, Austria, Hungary, Poland, and even Finland and Sweden.

  • Newish democracies "that for decades lacked big nationalist parties — Portugal, Romania and Spain — now have them," the Economist adds.

It's also true in Latin America: Tucker Carlson just traveled to Argentina to interview Javier Milei, a self-described "anarcho-capitalist" (radical libertarian) who came out of nowhere to become the favorite in next month's presidential election.

  • Right-wing populists have made inroads in Chile, Paraguay and El Salvador, often with tough-on-crime messages, AP reports.

What's happening: Right-wing populists have lost — most notably former President Trump in the U.S., right-wing leader Marine Le Pen in France and Jair Bolsonaro in Brazil. But the global phenomenon doesn't appear to be ebbing, Axios' Dave Lawler tells me.

  • In all three, the more mainstream victors have seen their popularity wane. As in countries across the rich world, the far-right is still knocking at the door each election cycle.

Between the lines: In several cases, right-wingers are coming back strong after losing.

In Israel, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu partnered with the extreme right to return to office, giving once-fringe parties a bigger voice than ever before — and helping spark a political crisis.

  • etanyahu is in the U.S. this week, and will hold a bilateral meeting with Biden on Wednesday in New York at the UN General Assembly.
  • First, Netanyahu will meet Monday with Elon Musk in San Francisco to talk AI.
  • Minutes before leaving for the U.S., the Israeli leader said pro-democracy protesters who will demonstrate against him in California and New York "are aligning themselves with the PLO and Iran."

Reporting was contributed by Axios' Barak Ravid and Zachary Basu.

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    Giorgia Meloni, whose party has neofascist roots, is prime minister of Italy, and Spain’s far-right Vox, after recently doubling its regional and local vote, could soon be sharing power nationally.

    The far right is part of the new coalition government in Finland and, in exchange for key policy concessions, is propping up another in Sweden. Back in Austria, the FPÖ is comfortably ahead in the polls, roughly a year from the next election.

    In a “watershed moment” in the Germany’s politics, the country’s far-right AfD has just won its first district council election, after surging in the past year from 10% to 20% and into second place in the polls, ahead of the centre-left SPD.

    In Greece, a trio of little-known hard-right and nativist parties won parliamentary seats in Sunday’s elections. They included the three-week-old Spartans, backed, from his prison cell, by a leading light of the now defunct neo-Nazi Golden Dawn.


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    The Netherlands

    Three nationalist populist parties – Geert Wilders’ anti-Islam Freedom party (PVV); the libertarian, conspiracist and pro-Russian Forum for Democracy (FvD) of Thierry Baudet; and its supposedly more moderate offshoot, JA21 – hold 28 of the Dutch parliament’s 150 seats. The meteoric rise in provincial elections this year of a new populist party, the Farmer-Citizen Movement (BBB), which fights government environmental policies, underlined the fragmented and febrile nature of Dutch politics in the run up to national elections, due by March 2025.

    Austria

    One of Europe’s oldest far-right movements, the Freedom party (FPÖ), founded in 1956 and first led by a former Nazi functionary and SS officer, is polling at 28%, five points clear of the centre-right ÖVP with which it first entered government after the 1999 elections, and six ahead of the centre-left SPÖ. Its past record and outspoken pro-Moscow views may, however, make it difficult for the party to form a coalition even if it wins next year’s vote. As with neighbouring Hungary, support for Russia remains – for the time being beyond the western European pale.

    Finland

    The influence of the far-right Finns party in Finland’s new four-party coalition government – the most rightwing in the country’s history – is clear: cutting refugee quotas, raising the bar for work-based immigration, making citizenship harder to obtain and establishing separate benefit systems for immigrants and permanent residents. Experts have said the prime minister, Petteri Orpo of the centre-right National Coalition party – which has 48 seats in parliament to the Finns’ 46 – took a hard line on immigration in order to gain support for €6bn of spending cuts.

    Sweden

    After a narrow win by the rightwing bloc in elections last September, the conservative Moderates formed a minority coalition with two other centre-right parties that relies – in exchange for a say in policy – on the parliamentary backing of the far-right Sweden Democrats: the first time the nativist party, which won 20.5% of the vote, has had direct input in a government programme. Long unthinkable, the decision to include the far right in policymaking has produced radical changes in Sweden’s approach to law and order, asylum, immigration and integration.

    Britain

    The far right may not be formally represented in Westminster, but analysts argue that populism, nativism and cultural conservatism have long dictated certain centre-right policy positions. They cite nationalist sloganeering by government ministers and Conservative MPs before and since the Brexit referendum; an immigration policy – and related rhetoric – that are arguably tougher than those of any continental European government; and an unabashed “war on woke”.

    the Guardian June 2023

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    THE HAGUE, Netherlands (AP) — Anti-Islam populist Geert Wilders said Thursday that he is ready to join the next Dutch coalition government after he surged to a huge election victory that marked a stunning lurch to the far right for a nation once famed as a beacon of tolerance.

    The result is sending shockwaves through Europe, where extremist nationalist ideology is putting pressure on democracies that now face the possibility of having to deal with the first far-right prime minister of the Netherlands.

    “It is going to happen that the PVV is in the next Cabinet,” Wilders said, using the Dutch abbreviation for his Party for Freedom.

    With nearly all votes counted, Wilders’ party was forecast to win 37 seats in the 150-seat lower house of parliament, more than double the 17 the party secured in the last election.

    Wilders got a standing ovation, cake and sparkling wine when he met his lawmakers at the parliament building Thursday morning.

    “Can you imagine it? 37 seats!” he said to cheers.

    Other political parties were holding separate meetings to discuss the election’s outcome before what is likely to be an arduous process of forming a new governing coalition begins Friday.

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    It looks like he will need at least 3 coalition partners to get to 76 seats. It will depend who he is in coalition with to determine how far right he will be. More likely he will have to move towards the centre
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    He's already cooling off on some of his harsher stuff.
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    If this gov doesn't get inflation, housing or climate under control, just one of those would be nice,..they can virtually say goodbye to another term in office imo. It felt like something good was happening and I like Albanese, his upbringing said to me he was the real deal, buuuuut it's starting to look a little thin on achievements after the first trimester. 

    It's going to be interesting what sort of strange new alliances we see at the next general election. 
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    I don't think anyone can do much at the moment.  THe world is in a bad way not just AUstralia.
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    That’s why we need leadership on those issues, furious.
    Successive governments have failed us. The lack of inventiveness is staggering.
    They are just box tickers
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    I do agree.  Our governments don't seem able to do much of anything - either side.  I don't know if alot of that is just petty blocking of bills or just bills aren't worth anything.  And I couldn't think of a worst job to begin with.  You obviously have ideas but if part of a party have to toe the line.  How does that get anything done.
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    Basically both major parties are run by cowards.
    reductio ad absurdum
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    That's why the economies of all the countries with right wing populists in charge are going gangbusters - they have all the answers.Wink
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    BY RAF CASERT

    Updated 1:33 AM GMT+11, November 24, 2023

    BRUSSELS (AP) — If ever the hard right in Europe needed a set of jumper cables to rev up their electoral engine again in the wake of last month’s major setback in Poland, Geert Wilders in the Netherlands provided it.

    Congratulations rolled in Thursday from all sides where the far right holds some sway on the continent after anti-Islam firebrand Wilders scored an election victory as unexpected as it was massive. His party more than doubled in size in parliament to tower over mainstream parties that long specialized in marginalizing him.

    Suddenly on Thursday, there was hope in the air again for nationalist conservative populists, especially with an European Parliament election coming up in June.

    “All of Europe wants a political turnaround!” said Alice Weidel, the leader of German far-right pary AfD, or Alternative for Germany, much more in hope than certainty as she congratulated Wilders on his win.

    It will be tough to match Wilders’ turnaround though. He more than doubled the seats of his Party for Freedom in the 150-seat parliament from 17 to 37. And while he was still trailing three parties in the polls with a week to go, he roared past them all by Thursday, leaving a green-left coalition second with 25 seats.

    Buoyed by Wilders’ win, a tectonic change in the Dutch political landscape, the far right now hopes to push ahead on a continent where Russia’s war in Ukraine, chaotic and deadly migration on its borders and spreading poverty because of inflation has turned any election into a tough test where the outcome is never a given.

    Last month, Alternative for Germany extended its reach from its dominant base in the country’s formerly communist east by making two strong showings in the west, and recent polls have put the party in second place nationwide with support of around 20% — about double its popularity during the 2021 federal election.

    Earlier, Slovakia had already turned populist with Robert Fico’s Smer party winning a general election and setting up a coalition government with an ultranationalist party.

    Hopes were high that the vote in Poland in late October would cement that rise, but the extreme conservative Law and Justice party lost control of the Polish government to a moderate coalition. Now, Wilders has put the populist far-right movement back on track.

    “The winds of change have arrived!,” crowed Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán, whose many rule of law issues with the European Union have turned him into the bane of proponents of Western liberal democracy.

    Like Wilders, Marine Le Pen in France has been dreaming of grasping power for more than a decade and now sees that perseverance can pay off. And she is happy she has another powerful ally with a similar loathing of the EU. The 27-nation bloc is on the radar of just about every populist far-right politician, derided as a bullying behemoth that smothers national identities yet offers free entry to people who undermine what they see as traditional Christian values.

    “It shows that more and more countries within the European Union contest the way it works … and hope that we can again master a migration that is considered by many Europeans as both massive and anarchic,” Le Pen said Thursday on France-Inter radio.

    And as a founding member of the EU, and a vital trading link between many of its most powerful nations, the Netherlands might have issues with cutting the umbilical cord to the bloc.

    Wilders calls for a “Nexit” referendum — a Dutch version of Brexit which saw the United Kingdom leave the EU. By nature, Dutch politics rely on coalitions between several parties and no other suitable party has followed Wilders on that.

    “He can never rule on his own, and I cannot imagine any kind of coalition majority that would choose a confrontation with Europe,” said professor Hendrik Vos of Ghent University, an expert on EU politics. “The Netherlands just has too much at stake in the EU market. It is unthinkable. And you have already seen him tone down some of his rhetoric,” Vos said.

    He also did so with his strident tone on Islam and warning that he would close off the national borders to migration. Now, he has already promised that if picked as prime minister, he would be there for all Dutch, including Muslims.

    Words, though, have no expiry date — and they can haunt you.

    When Italy’s nationalist conservative League leader Matteo Salvini congratulated Wilders for his “extraordinary electoral victory” that he said showed that “a new Europe is possible,” Italian opposition center-left lawmakers quickly showed he might not be the friend of Italy that Salvini thought.

    They posted a screenshot of Salvini’s tweet alongside a 2020 photo of Wilders holding a sign saying “Not a cent to Italy,” in reference to his opposition to any EU funding for the country so that it could overcome the COVID-19 pandemic.

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    You know what makes me sick about blokes like this, he runs a campaign of hate and fear anti immigration etc, then once elected in some form drops all the hate and fear to just blend in with all the other shape shifting lizards ( politicians) 

    for once it would be nice if a person who was elected on ideas and promises actually carried out those things when in office and not just turn up to be another box ticker. 
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    It's not an overnight thing. Hitler was elected, as was Putin, Mussolini, Orban etc.

    You get your foot in the door and then go to work changing the constitution, the judicial system, silence the media and political opponents and before you know it you have a dictator for life who does as he pleases. You know, exactly what the lunatic has promised in America.
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    a study was carried out on lying in politics. It showed conservatives enjoy lying far more than the left. It also showed conservative voters are more inclined to believe the lies.
    I think it's just a volume thing - they win through sheer weight of numbers
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    Yes I recently watch The American President again and found it isn't a modern thing been going on for years.  Some can do it better than others though.  But surely some of the right also care for the good of the country?  Lies shouldn't have to be used to win an election.  Your in parliment together so try and get on with each other and find common ground.  THen maybe we can get bills through and get the country working right again!
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    One of the things I liked about the NSW premier in opposition was he didn't jump on the bandwagon everytime a scandal came to life.  Unlike his opposition now who can't wait to front the cameras.  I'm sick of tit for tat tactics.  It turns me so against them.  Try to just get on with things please!
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    And doesnt this thread deserve to be in the laundry basket.

    Marble talking 'weight of numbers" is why the conservatives are elected more often...LOL is that why labor does its best to water down the regional vote , because the farmers will elect the libs and nats...LOL
    Australia is full of farmers......LOL

    Its a Democracy people, elected by you and me.
    what do you want? A dictatorship?
    Please emigrate to  China! Seems that is a better fit for you leftys.
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    Better get pull your finger out..

    Political support for Labor has dropped to its lowest level since last year’s election, a Newspoll in The Australian has shown, with the major parties now drawn level on support.

    After reaching highs of 39 per cent since Anthony Albanese became Prime Minister, Labor’s primary slumped to just 31 per cent in the new poll — the first time support has dipped below the Government’s election primary of 32.6 per cent.

    Under the poll, support for the Coalition has risen to 38 per cent — its strongest primary vote in more than two years.

    On a two-party preferred basis, Labor and the Coalition are now tied on 50 per cent apiece — a sharp turnaround for the Opposition after being elected out of office just 18 months ago.

    Support for both Prime Minister and Opposition Leader Peter Dutton stayed level, with Mr Albanese still the nation’s preferred leader.

    The news comes as the Prime Minister returns to Parliament for the final sitting fortnight of the year, which has seen support for the Government slide amid a cost-of-living crunch, soaring interest rates and the defeated Voice referendum.

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    Goes back to your lefty mates hawk and keating 

    Deregulating the banks and introducing superannution has stuffed Australia.
    china has done ok however.
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    The rich get richer and the poor are also rans.

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    how many on here have property investments?
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    Nope can't even help my Children that much!
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    Originally posted by Hello Sunshine Hello Sunshine wrote:

    Goes back to your lefty mates hawk and keating 

    Deregulating the banks and introducing superannution has stuffed Australia.
    china has done ok however.

    please explain ?

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    Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

    It's not an overnight thing. Hitler was elected, as was Putin, Mussolini, Orban etc.

    You get your foot in the door and then go to work changing the constitution, the judicial system, silence the media and political opponents and before you know it you have a dictator for life who does as he pleases. You know, exactly what the lunatic has promised in America.

    I knew Albo had a dodgy side being hidden. I bet he rocks Hitlers moustache as wellLOL
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    How did you propose paying for the lefty promises?
    Increase taxes.....all agreed?
    I would love to see that.....wont worry me.
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    Please, keep increasing taxes, and then wonder why the conservatives are elected more often.
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    Originally posted by Fiddlesticks Fiddlesticks wrote:

    [QUOTE=Hello Sunshine]Goes back to your lefty mates hawk and keating 

    Deregulating the banks and introducing superannution has stuffed Australia.
    china has done ok however.

    please explain ?

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    ita a race for that super investment dollar. are you going to keep your super dollar in a super fund not giving good returns?
    How are share prices going fiddles?
    You pay for it in other ways.
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