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2022 Melbourne Cup Flemington

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote djebel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Jul 2022 at 8:59pm
That is what marketing is all about,.

I reckon twice as many worldly eyes would watch the race if he was in it.

Would that be worth anything to the VRC ? 




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I agreed Djebel and I also think if the Melbourne Cup was WFA the chances would increase in terms of Stradivarius and others coming.
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Melbourne Cup plans in place for favourite as current trainer remains

Highly regarded German stayer Loft will line up in the Melbourne Cup but not with the earlier trainers who were being suggested for the horse (Hayes).

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11 Starts. 3-4-2 $AUS469,358 in France, Germany, USA.
 PlacingDateCourseRace NameDistanceMoney
 1 of 729-Aug-2021Baden-BadenForderverein Baden Galopp Iffezheim E. V. Steher2800m14,000
 2 of 819-Sep-2021DortmundDeutsches St. Leger [G3]2800m11,000
 2 of 931-Oct-2021Berlin-HoppegartenSilbernes Pferd [G3]3000m11,000
 1 of 1115-May-2022Berlin-HoppegartenOleander-Rennen [G2]3200m60,000
 1st10-Jun-2022BelmontBelmont Gold Cup S. [G2]16f220,000




YearRaceGradeWinnerTrainerWinner Fam.Dist.2nd3rdTimeComment
2022BELMONT GOLD CUP STAKESG2LOFT9MARCEL WEISS7-b16 FBRITISH ROYALTYSTRONG TIDE23:16.68TURF FIRM [8 RAN] / NEW COURSE RECORDT
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Nominations for the big race close at 12 noon tomorrow, although late entries can be lodged up to 24th Aug.
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Thought i would join up and give some views on the Euro runners for this years race. Not a clue about the Aussie runners.

Cleveland @ 33/1

A very interesting runner who has been purchased by Twighlight payment's owner and switched to young Joseph to train from his father.

Just qualified tonight finishing second in a G3 race over 12 Furlongs. He was mainly campaigned last year over a mile and on his first run this year stepped up to 2 miles 2 furlongs to win a well known handicap at Chester. The second that day Coltrane has gone on to run with credit since.

Then finished second again at Royal Ascot over 1 mile 6 furlongs by Get Shirty who has gone on to win a good race since.

From the sound of things it looks like he is making the trip and could be quite well handicapped over further.

Away he Goes @ 140.0

Was very well fancied last year by connections but suffered an injury in the run up to the race and missed it. Had a warm up over too short a trip at Royal Ascot on his first run for a good while and improved a fair bit running 5 th to Kyprios and co. at Goodwood which qualified him to run this year.

Never raced much over 2 miles but a couple of them have been his best runs yet against Subjectivist and Trueshan which puts him up there on a going day.

Possibly going for the Ebor en route to another go at this after.  
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Welcome botchyuk!
Lot of us Aussies don't have a clue about the Euro runners so your comments are much appreciated Big smile
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Thanks Botchy.. someone must be watching, they are into $18 and $51 already! 

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Hah! Wasn't me Slammy LOL ... and even if I had, my $1 wager never made a difference to no one Embarrassed
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Probably about right to be fair. In mid summer there is so much big races going on i don't think bookies pay much attention till nearer the race.

25/1 still available over here still, quiet tempted to have another bash now he seems to be going.

I saw that some people mentioned Cammora and i suppose the race last night enhanced his chances with Gear up winning. I know he has been sold to you guys so any news on him would be welcome.

A report from last nights race anyway

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Hayes' secure Irish Melbourne Cup challenger with Shane Warne link

Ben and JD Hayes have secured a serious Melbourne Cup contender after the owner who manages Shane Warne's horse purchased an eye-catching Irish import.

Camorra comes with impressive credentials having won the Group 2 Curragh Cup (2816m) in June – the same race won by imports Rekindling and Twilight Payment before their respective Melbourne Cup wins in 2017 and 2020.

Vintage Crop won the 1993 Curragh Cup before famously becoming the first northern hemisphere-trained runner to win the Melbourne Cup.

Camorra has been purchased by Jarred Magnabosco from Best Bloodstock who is the managing owner of Sacred Oath, the David Vandyke-trained Queensland sprinter who has been part-owned by cricket legend Warne who tragically died earlier this year.

It is a massive boost for Lindsay Park and the Hayes’ brothers to have a legitimate Melbourne Cup contender.

It was thought the Hayes brothers would be training equal $15 favourite Loft for the Melbourne Cup however that horse will now race in the Cup for its current trainer Marcel Weiss.

TAB has Camorra as a $34 Melbourne Cup chance and JD Hayes feels the six-year-old will give the great race a mighty shake.

“This horse has got established form lines into the Melbourne Cup, for a long time the Curragh Cup has been a good form race,” JD Hayes told News Corp.

“He should get in with a nice weight.

“He has got a bit of age behind him so he has had a few pre-seasons under the belt and I think he will be able to absorb the pressure of a Melbourne Cup and be able to kick hard.

“I’ve been loving what I’ve been seeing from watching his videos and I’m very interested to know him more.

“We will be using the guidance of Ger Lyons, his current trainer, as much as possible.

“I think this horse will be a legitimate player in the Melbourne Cup, he looks like he is in the prime of his career.

“We just need the horse to travel well and we are cooking with gas.”

Camorra, who has had 16 starts for four wins, with remain in the care of Lyons for one more European run in the Group 1 Irish St Leger in September before jetting to Lindsay Park in Australia.

JD Hayes says he is planning a trip with Magnabosco to be on track for the Irish St Leger.

Magnabosco also has unbeaten three-year-old colt Tijuana with Lindsay Park and on a spring mission to attack the Group 1 Caulfield Guineas.

He believes Camorra will be a proper Melbourne Cup player.

“The horse is very versatile, he can be on pace and setting a quick tempo and be brave fighting off challengers, but he’s also a horse who can take a sit and show a turn of foot,” Magnabosco said.

“That’s why I thought he would make a really good two mile Handicap horse and be a serious challenger for the 2022 Melbourne Cup.”

Ben and JD Hayes will be trying to follow in their famous father’s footsteps and win the Melbourne Cup after David Hayes won the great race with Jeune in 1994.

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Looks like Simon Kwok (HK Beauty family) purchased him after his debut win. I'm guessing he was supposed to go to Hong Kong but didn't/couldn't get a rating so Kwok sold him after a few starts.
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Just a quick one guys. Does placing in a Group race for 3 year old's only qualify to pass the ballot ?
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Passing the ballot clause basically means a horse has satisfied one or more of the following clauses
A) since 1 February 2021 inclusive, won or was placed 2nd or 3rd in an internationally recognised Group or Graded flat race run over 2300 metres or further; OR won or was placed 2nd or 3rd in the Queensland Oaks OR
B) since 1 February 2021 inclusive, was placed 4th or 5th in an internationally recognised Group 1 or Grade 1 flat race run over 2300 metres or further in which horses older than 3 years old could run, OR
C) since 1 February 2021 inclusive, won an internationally recognised Listed flat race run over 2300 metres or further, OR
D) since 1 February 2021 inclusive, won or was placed 2nd or 3rd in the York Ebor (UK) or Champions & Chater Cup (HK), OR
E) since 1 February 2021 inclusive, won the Northumberland Plate (UK), Cesarewitch (UK), or Queen Mother Memorial Cup (HK), OR
F) was placed 6th, 7th or 8th in the 2022 MRC Caulfield Cup, OR
G) was placed 2nd or 3rd in the 2022 MVRC Cox Plate, OR
H) won the 2022 VRC TAB Turnbull Stakes, OR
I) won or was placed 2nd or 3rd in the 2020 Lexus Melbourne Cup, OR
J) won the 2020 MRC Caulfield Cup.
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