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The riots are like a bloke throwing a cigarette out of a car window, starting a bushfire that causes massive destruction, when the real cause of the mayhem, is the tinder-dry countryside. America is always ready to boil over, with this kind of strife. You can't tell me that cop intended to kill him, any more than the fool with the discarded cigarette anticipated what would happen.
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Yeah but, if it had been PT arresting him, he would have ask him nicely to please get in the car and come to jail, and if he said hell no,  just run like hell.  LOL He was a huge dude with a history of violence.
He shouldnt have died like that.  Those cops should and would have known better.  It does make you wonder if there is more behind it than just a simple arrest. 
The cops in Minnesota seem to be a wild lot tho.  Look at that incident with the Australian girl. 
People protested then too, but they didnt burn and destroy cities.

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The trial will decide that, but keeping your foot on his throat for nearly 3 minutes after he had lost his pulse and the second copper said he would die is hard to defend.

Ellison said he would have any/further charges before next Tuesday. 
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You have to ask the question now.  How will that cop ever get a fair trial ? ( Defending what he plainly did will be pretty hard anyway ) . Every person has already made up their minds about him, so how will they get impartial jurors ? 
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I think the evidence will be very clear. That video is graphic, and they have another autopsy now. The police body-cams are available but haven't been shown yet. 
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Originally posted by acacia alba acacia alba wrote:

This "victim" had only been incarcerated 5 times over a dozen years for mostly violent crimes ... but he was a good boy, really, according to his family and his Minister

Trust Doc to get to the heart of the matter LOL  Did you miss the bit on TV of his brother telling us they are a peacful church going family ?  Wink
No one deserves what happened to that bloke . That should never happen to anyone.  But holding him up to be Mr Sweet and Innocent is not right either.
That cop , and his mates as well, new what they were doing.  No one holds a person down like that for 8 minutes unless you mean to kill them.
But all these others using it as an excuse to loot and vandalise and destroy are as bad as those cops.
I don’t give 2 fuvks about his history.
I see a black guy with his hands cuffed behind his back, on his stomach on the ground.He was not a threat to anyone.
Then some arrogant prick with a gun and 4 mates slowly choked him to death cos he could.


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Don't be surprised if any penalties are light.

The last thing they want is Police who won't act.    Their job is difficult and accidents happen.          . You can't control crims without hands on.   Co operation isn't the name of their game.
Police didn't intend to kill him , Negligent maybe, but no way murder.
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Third degree murder is unlawful killing without intent to do so maxie. 25 years 

They want first degree with death penalty possibility
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Originally posted by Shammy Davis Shammy Davis wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

He obviously deserved to have his throat crushed then.
Putting words in AA'S mouth, are you? Obviously, the police officers in all our big cities deserve to be abused. How about the federal protection officer killed by a drive by shooter. The list of those harmed beyond George Floyd's arrest and death is just as long and tragic. George Floyd's memory is not going to be a sympathetic one in terms of equal rights because these riots have taken all the steam out of whatever justice and American society has to offer. The focus is no longer on Floyd. Like Rodney King, Floyd will be remembered as the guy who caused all this chaos by trying to pass a counterfeit twenty. In a couple of years he will be remembered as a felon who got roughed up and died at the hands of police. He will barely be a footnote in the history of these events. I grew up the 50's in the south. There have been a great many improvements in race relations. This recent cr@p is going set the African-American community back decades, and their leadership already recognizesent it.
You love the what abouts don’t you?

He didn’t cause chaos by passing a dud note.
He was suspected, dragged out of his car,cuffed and was going to be jailed for months until it would be sorted,one way or another.

What caused the “chaos” was the his callous murder by officers are supposed to be protectors....

Remember the first guy who was killed like this?
There were at least 12 police involved in his arrest.
For what?
On SUSPICION of selling cigarettes singly, which apparently is illegal for some reason.
But these aren’t racist, cos we all know how many White investment bankers were convicted over fraud with the GFC where billions upon billions were lost.....
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

Civil wars are almost as awesome as pandemics.

Just like the Pandemic, the Civil War seems to be limited to failing bankrupt Blue States ... Embarrassed

300 cities in 50 states and now spreading around the world...just like Trump's Pandemic.

Golf and rallies.

ANTIFA are everywhere PT.

How many cops will be executed? ... would you like to run a book?
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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How many deaths in say the last 10 years have been attributed to ANTIFA Doc?
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

So what did George do to be choked to death last week and had that copper not murdered him would the ensuing chaos have even happened?



Well he was Black of course PT ... PLEASE PAY ATTENTION TO Don "LIZ" LEMON'S Factual "repoting"!!!

... and didn't you seen The Australian Communist Party "protesting" in Sydney (until it got too cold and they lost interest and went home to watch The Voice) ... with their token Blacks, struggling to align this tragedy to the greatest issue Australian Society faces today ... a Black Death in Australia that happened 5 years ago ... ???

It was a racially fueled murder of course!!!

Of the FOUR (4) Cops who were involved, I'm just not sure which cop was the Most racist ...

The Hispanic Cop?

The Asian Cop?

The White Cop?

or was it the BLACK Cop?

Hey, how impressive were those Opportunistic ANTIFA Fascists! ... gee, they were bloody quick to arm and take advantage of the Poor Black Youths living in abject poverty in DEMOCRAT GOVERNED States and Cities - but hey, that's the Democrats for ya, decades of practice manipulating and oppressing blacks!Clap

So does Joe still think that he is a friend of the Black Community ... just because he hung out with his boss- "Barak Umerica" - for 8 years .... oh, come on man! ... you know, the thing!?LOL
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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is Barak Umerica the former president ibama who sat on his hands whilst blacks were killed by cops and lived in slums?
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Is that true Shrunk?
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

How many deaths in say the last 10 years have been attributed to ANTIFA Doc?

How many did CNN say it was? ... oh wait, that's right ... orange man bad, he wants to stop cops being assassinated and churches being raised to the ground, and general rioting and looting ...
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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No problem. No idea.
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Originally posted by Shrunk in the Wash Shrunk in the Wash wrote:

is Barak Umerica the former president ibama who sat on his hands whilst blacks were killed by cops and lived in slums?

Yes, but Slow Joe can't remember his name ... he normally just calls him "boy". 
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

No problem. No idea.

Don't feel bad about it ... you always claim never did, when the facts come out!Wink
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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I will help you:

Marilyn Mayo, senior research fellow for the Anti-Defamation League’s Center on Extremism, said that statistics show that radical leftists have been dramatically less likely to kill people than their counterparts on the opposite side of the political spectrum. Over the past decade, extremists of every stripe have killed 372 Americans. 74 percent of those killings were committed by right wing extremists. Only 2 percent of those deaths were at the hands of left wing extremists. Mayo told us:

I don’t want to give moral equivalence to the two sides because one side is fighting against white supremacy.  On the Antifa side, they’ve never murdered anyone but there have been many murders done by white supremacists, so we have to be concerned about that movement.-- Snopes
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We know that ANTIFA didn't throw any of the bricks or bottles that they provided to the black youth ... they certainly aren't going to be silly enough to unload a clip into the back of the head of a cop!Embarrassed

Snopes - are they from the same "stable" as twitters "fact checkers" - CNN and WaPo? ... oh, and ANTIFA of course!Wink
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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$1.87 now Doc. 
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He was 12/1 last time --- Plenty of water to flow between now and the election.      Slow Joe has to face the Battle lines eventually.
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With Trump mentally disintegrating daily you better hurry up maxie.

I read the lobbyists are already preparing their I never really supported him speeches for their clients as they all abandon ship. 
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I don't put much faith in the Trump haters hot lines PT .

Their form is poor when you examine them.    > Was Trump Impeached ?

Did Bonking Billy win.?    ETC.
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No sane American would want 4 more years of the destructive disregard for America, it's friends  or it's constitution from this guy

Trouble is about 35% aren't sane. Thankfully he isn't doing anything at all to try to bring over Independents or right leaning Democrats to get close to the 48% he ''miraculously''won with last time.
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Biden is firming on Betfair $1.98= $2.24.

Will all come down to the final period when Slow Joe has to match the verbals with Trump.

America has handled the China virus better than most...
The Riots are mostly Democrat Voters who will be too stuffed to walk come election time.

Donald John Trump,    Up in lights for a 2nd term.
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Mattis moved the market. Unusual for such a respected figure to deliver a scathing critique of the POTUS.
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Is he a betting Man.
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''Slow'' Joe doesn't have to do much maxie, Donald is doing Joe's job for him. He just has to sit back sound Presidential and not stuff up too much., not that it would matter now anyway. The obituary for the disastrous Trump Presidency and Trumpism are already being written.


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We know polls 5 months from an election can be very shaky but this is interesting comparison with polls at the same time for the last 3 presidential elections.

2020: Biden +8.0
2016:Clinton +1.5
2012: Obama +1.3
2008: Obama +1.4

I think people generally remember the Obama wins as much easier and more predictable than they were.
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