Go to Villagebet.com.au for free horse racing tips - Click here now
Forum Home Forum Home > Community - Public Forums > Laundry Basket
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - 1883 Melbourne Cup
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login


Thoroughbred Village Home Page. For village news, follow @TBVillage on Twitter. For horseracing tips, follow @Villagebet on Twitter. To contact the Mayor by email: Click Here.


1883 Melbourne Cup

 Post Reply Post Reply
Author
Message
Baghdad Bob View Drop Down
Champion
Champion


Joined: 10 Feb 2010
Location: Victoria
Status: Offline
Points: 5417
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Baghdad Bob Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: 1883 Melbourne Cup
    Posted: 19 Oct 2020 at 9:14pm
I posted this on the Racing Forum about the 1883 Melbourne Cup, but think it is appropriate to post it on Joffs All Sports Bar as a few contributors to Joffs might qualify...

"Although it was 137 years ago when Martini Henri won that Cup one owner of another runner must have have a premonition that TBV would have a few contributors of dubious intellect as he named a horse Claptrap." 

SC, you can go straight through to the semi finals you can skip the early qualifying rounds . LOL
Back to Top
Sponsored Links


Back to Top
maccamax View Drop Down
Champion
Champion


Joined: 19 Jun 2010
Status: Offline
Points: 37904
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote maccamax Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Oct 2020 at 9:20pm
lol ..   Love the humour Bob ..      Is there a liklihood of you eloping with our famous SC.       Some attraction is evident with the each way posts of endearment between you.
STATISTICS = DON'T COUNT AFRICAN'S OR THE POOR -hahahaha
Back to Top
djebel View Drop Down
Premium
Premium
Avatar

Joined: 07 Mar 2007
Status: Offline
Points: 43725
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote djebel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Oct 2020 at 9:21pm
Straight to the laundry basket for this thread.

Claptrap colt 1879  
Tim Whiffler (GB)
Brown 1859
Van Galen
Brown 1853
Van Tromp
Brown 1844
Lanercost
Brown 1835
Liverpool
Otis
1828
1820
11-g
3-j
Barbelle
Bay 1836
Sandbeck
Darioletta
1818
1822
8-a
3-i
Little Cassino
Brown 1843
Inheritor
Black 1831
Lottery
Handmaiden
1820
1817
11-g
4-b
A Mare
Bay 1836
Waverley
A Mare
1817
1812
2-a
5>
Sybil
Brown 1851
The Ugly Buck
Bay 1841
Venison
Brown 1833
Partisan
Fawn
1811
1823
1-e
11-c
Monstrosity
Chestnut 1838
Plenipotentiary
Puce
1831
1834
6-b
4-l
Sylph
Brown 1832
Filho da Puta
Brown 1812
Haphazard
Mrs Barnet
1797
1806
35>
12-a
Twatty
Bay 1819
Whalebone
A Mare
1807
1812
1-o
3>
Talkative (AUS)
Bay 1871
Talk o' the Hill
Bay 1865
Wild Dayrell
Brown 1852
Ion
Brown 1835
Cain
Margaret
1822
1831
8-b
4-l
Ellen Middleton
Brown 1846
Bay Middleton
Myrrha
1833
1831
1-s
7>
Ayacanora
Chestnut 1854
Birdcatcher
Chestnut 1833
Sir Hercules
Guiccioli
1826
1823
2-t
11-d
Pocahontas
Chestnut 1837
Glencoe
Marpessa
1831
1830
1-t
3-m
Elizabeth
Bay 1863
Touchstone
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 

Bronzewing
Bay 1859
The Swede
Bay 1848
Charles XII
Mangel-Wurzel
1836
1823
21-a
1-b
Brunette
1852
Jersey
Her Royal Highness
1839
????
1-s
 




reductio ad absurdum



Back to Top
maccamax View Drop Down
Champion
Champion


Joined: 19 Jun 2010
Status: Offline
Points: 37904
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote maccamax Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Oct 2020 at 9:21pm
lol ..   Love the humour Bob ..      Is there a liklihood of you eloping with our famous SC.       Some attraction is evident with the each way posts of endearment between you.
STATISTICS = DON'T COUNT AFRICAN'S OR THE POOR -hahahaha
Back to Top
TJMitchell View Drop Down
Champion
Champion


Joined: 29 Jun 2014
Location: Melbourne
Status: Offline
Points: 4585
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote TJMitchell Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Oct 2020 at 9:27pm
Martini-Henry Tongue
I wish I had a sig
Back to Top
djebel View Drop Down
Premium
Premium
Avatar

Joined: 07 Mar 2007
Status: Offline
Points: 43725
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote djebel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Oct 2020 at 9:36pm




reductio ad absurdum



Back to Top
maccamax View Drop Down
Champion
Champion


Joined: 19 Jun 2010
Status: Offline
Points: 37904
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote maccamax Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Oct 2020 at 9:47pm
What trash they dish up ..    Much bigger issue is , some people watch it.

listen to it .        . What a mess the new generations are making of our world ...    

   Or was she dying in agony ?
STATISTICS = DON'T COUNT AFRICAN'S OR THE POOR -hahahaha
Back to Top
djebel View Drop Down
Premium
Premium
Avatar

Joined: 07 Mar 2007
Status: Offline
Points: 43725
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote djebel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Oct 2020 at 9:52pm
She is f**king hot. 




reductio ad absurdum



Back to Top
Baghdad Bob View Drop Down
Champion
Champion


Joined: 10 Feb 2010
Location: Victoria
Status: Offline
Points: 5417
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Baghdad Bob Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Oct 2020 at 10:01pm
That video should be in the laundry basket, not the topic of this thread. If that is considered music and she is hot I give up.
Back to Top
djebel View Drop Down
Premium
Premium
Avatar

Joined: 07 Mar 2007
Status: Offline
Points: 43725
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote djebel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Oct 2020 at 10:07pm
Give up.




reductio ad absurdum



Back to Top
djebel View Drop Down
Premium
Premium
Avatar

Joined: 07 Mar 2007
Status: Offline
Points: 43725
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote djebel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Oct 2020 at 10:08pm
If you did not get groinal movement watching that you are kidding yourself. 




reductio ad absurdum



Back to Top
max manewer View Drop Down
Champion
Champion
Avatar

Joined: 31 Jan 2010
Status: Offline
Points: 30669
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote max manewer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Oct 2020 at 10:14pm
It isn't a "premium" grade video, djebel !
Back to Top
max manewer View Drop Down
Champion
Champion
Avatar

Joined: 31 Jan 2010
Status: Offline
Points: 30669
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote max manewer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Oct 2020 at 11:36pm
Probably the greatest to go around at Flemington in the 19th Century, was the some-time jockey, and I think a poet of great note, Adan Lindsay Gordon, who has left us with this gem, which I remind myself of from time to time......

“Life is mostly froth and bubble,
Two things stand like stone.
Kindness in another's trouble,
Courage in your own.”


Adam Lindsay Gordon
Back to Top
oneonesit View Drop Down
Champion
Champion
Avatar

Joined: 06 Aug 2012
Status: Offline
Points: 17868
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote oneonesit Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Nov 2020 at 5:12pm
Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

She is f**king hot. 
Average at best djebel. However i am surprised at the power in her voice. Better singer than i thought Thumbs Up
There's got to be a morning after !
Back to Top
Second Chance View Drop Down
Champion
Champion
Avatar

Joined: 02 Dec 2007
Status: Offline
Points: 24165
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Second Chance Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Nov 2020 at 5:25pm
Bob is clearly of the old school of which I'm probably one, and who's rhyming mantra might well be "voices sell, groins ...."  

Just a pity the performer or her manager feels in necessary to go the gyration route.






Back to Top
Second Chance View Drop Down
Champion
Champion
Avatar

Joined: 02 Dec 2007
Status: Offline
Points: 24165
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Second Chance Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Nov 2020 at 5:30pm
ps though Bob's lack of appreciation might also be down to his regrettable prostate condition.  Embarrassed
Back to Top
Passing Through View Drop Down
Champion
Champion
Avatar

Joined: 09 Jan 2013
Location: Australia
Status: Offline
Points: 49743
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Passing Through Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Nov 2020 at 5:33pm
Tim Whiffler 
Bay horse foaled 1862. New Warrior (GB) - Cinderella1. Trained by: Etienne de Mestre
TWO YEARS
2YO is unknown but may have raced. . Rest of his career is as accurate as can be found in newspapers and turf registers.
THREE YEARS
UNP10 ran5-1Macalister8.10Randwick12 furAustralian Derby2-Sep-65Clove8.52:51.0
UNP7 ran----8.10Randwick8 furBruie Stakes8-Sep-65The Pitsford8.101:52.0
UNP14 ran--Stone8.10Randwick14 furSt Leger Stakes28-Apr-66The Pitsford8.103:25.5
UNP6 ran--Andrews--Randwick12 furMaiden Stakes5-May-66Cossack--3:22.5
WON2 ran--Stone8.10Randwick10 furBruie Stakes6-May-66Rose of Australia8.82:22.0
UNP12 ran----6.12Randwick10 furForced Hcp7-May-66Warwick8.22:17.0
FOUR YEARS
2ND6 ran1-1 fStone9.2Randwick16 furDerby-St-Leger1-Sep-66Gulnare7.83:45.0
3RD6 ran2-1Macalister7.4Randwick16 furMetropolitan Hcp6-Sep-66Bylong5.2 cd 5.63:42.5
3RD5 ran--Stone8.12Randwick6 furTradesman's Plate8-Sep-66Ludia8.71:20.0
3RD15 ran4-1Carter7.4Randwick16 furSydney Cup9-May-67Fishhook6.103:41.5
WON8 ran1-1 fCarter7.7Randwick12 furCity Hcp10-May-67Lady M Sutton6.7 cd 6.102:49.5
2ND7 ran1-1 fCarter8.2Randwick10 furRandwick Hcp11-May-67Rose Of Australia7.132:20.0
2ND6 ran--Carter8.5Randwick10 furForced Hcp11-May-67Phoebe6.72:20.0
FIVE YEARS
WON17 ran6-1Driscoll8.8Randwick16 furMetropolitan Hcp5-Sep-67Rose Of Australia8.53:38.5
2ND3 ran5-4Driscoll9.5Randwick10 furCraven Plate7-Sep-67Yattendon9.82:12.5
WON27 ran5-2 fDriscoll8.11Flemington16 furMelbourne Cup31-Oct-67Queen of Hearts5.10 cd 5.123:39.0
WON7 ran1-1 fDriscoll10.1Flemington24 furQueen's Plate2-Nov-67North Australian9.35:48.0
WON15 ran2-1 fDriscoll10.1Flemingtona12 furDuke Of Edinburgh30-Nov-67Exile8.42:56.0
PU6 ran1-2 fDriscoll9.9Flemington16 furGalatea Stakes30-Nov-67Fireworks6.103:43.0
2ND6 ran1-2 fDonnelly9.0Launceston24 furChampion Cup18-Feb-67Fireworks7.05:48.0
WON2 ran--Driscoll9.13Randwick8 furQueen's Plate2-May-67The Barb9.75:54.5
The Barb won but was disqualified for weighing in light
SIX YEARS
2ND11 ran2-1Donnelly9.10Randwick16 furMetropolitan Hcp10-Sep-68The Barb9.103:37.7
2NDdh3 ran--Donnelly9.8Randwick10 furCraven Plate11-Sep-68The Barb9.52:16.0
4TH25 ran5-2 fJ Kean10.4Flemington16 furMelbourne Cup5-Nov-68Glencoe9.13:42.0
2ND4 ran--Joe Kean10.4Flemington24 furQueen's Plate7-Nov-68Glencoe9.35:53.0
3RD5 ran--Donnelly10.2Randwick16 furSydney Cup29-Apr-69The Barb10.83:40.0
2ND4 ran--Donnelly9.4Randwick8 furAll Aged Stakes30-Apr-69Glencoe8.121:46.0
3RD5 ran--Donnelly10.0Randwick24 furQueen's Plate1-May-69The Barb9.135:56.0
SEVEN YEARS
2ND4 ran1-1 fDonnelly9.8Randwick10 furCraven Plate10-Sep-69Glencoe9.52:19.0
WON3 ran--Donnelly10.1Randwick24 furRandwick Plate11-Sep-69The Italian9.95:49.5
UNP17 ran5-1Donnelly10.2Randwick16 furSydney Cup28-Apr-70Barbelle7.7 cd 7.103:43.0
WON3 ran2-1Donnelly9.4Randwick8 furAll Aged Stakes29-Apr-70Barbarian = 2
Florencde = 2
7.13
5.7 cd 6.1
1:49.0
WON 1-3 fDonnelly10.0Randwick24 furQueen's Plate30-Apr-70Bylong10.05:44.5
EIGHT YEARS
2ND3-1 f16 ranDonnelly9.12Randwick16 furMetropolitan Hcp8-Sep-70Croydon7.83:43.0
WON4 ran2-5 fDonnelly9.8Randwick10 furCraven Plate9-Sep-70Moselle8.72:17.0
WON2 ran--Donnelly--Randwick24 furRandwick Plate10-Sep-70Pyrrhus--5:57.0
WON9 ran1-3 fDonnelly9.7Flemington10 furMelbourne Stakes3-Nov-70Topper8.112:23.0
4TH28 ran6-1Donnelly10.0Flemington16 furMelbourne Cup10-Nov-70Nimblefoot6.33:37.0
WON3 ran4-6 fDonnelly9.12Flemington16 furRoyal Park Stakes11-Nov-70Glencoe9.123:45.0
WON7 ran1-2 fDonnelly10.4Flemington24 furQueen's Plate12-Nov-70Strop10.16:14.0
WON11 ran1-1 fDonnelly10.0Flemington14 furMidsummer Hcp31-Dec-70Nimblefoot8.83:16.0
2ND2 ran--Donnelly9.13Flemington24 furCanterbury Stakes31-Dec-70Trump Card9.6--
2ND5 ran1-2 fDonnelly9.5Launceston--Champion Cup14-Feb-71Romula6.115:49.0
WON3 ran--Donnelly9.7Launceston14 furRailway Plate15-Feb-71Phantom9.43:23.0
WON3 ran--Donnelly9.5Launceston20 furTown Plate16-Feb-71Strop9.24:47.0
UNP7 ran6-1Donnelly10.2Flemington18 furAustralian Cup10-Mar-71Nimblefoot8.44:11.0
WON2 ran--Donnelly9.9Flemington18 furTown Plate11-Mar-71Nimblefoot9.64:40.0
4TH12 ran10-1Donnelly9.12Randwick16 furSydney Cup11-May-71Mermaid7.53:40.
WON3 ran2-5 fDonnelly9.3Randwick8 furAll Aged Stakes12-May-71Lady Clifden7.121:49.0
WON2 ran2-3 fDonnelly10.1Randwick24 furQueen's Plate13-May-71Romula8.15:56.0
NINE YEARS
WON3 ran1-1 efDonnelly9.8Randwick10 furCraven Plate8-Sep-71Florence8.72:15.0
#Tim Whiffler finished second but won on protest.
4TH4 ran1-1 fDonnelly10.1Randwick24 furRandwick Plate9-Sep-71Warrior9.125:47.0
WON5 ran1-1 fG Donnelly9.4Randwick10 furCumberland Stakes1-Apr-72Warrior9.12:16.0
4TH16 ran4-1 fDonnelly9.3Randwick16 furSydney Cup4-Apr-72The Prophet6.103:36.7
2ND4 ran5-4 fG Donnelly9.4Randwick8 furAll Aged Stakes5-Apr-72Hamlet9.01:45.0
3RD5 ran3-1G Donnelly9.2Randwick24 furQueen's Plate6-Apr-72Hamlet7.135:42.0
Age
Starts
1st
2nd
3rd
2yo
??
??
??
??
3yo
6
1
0
0
4yo
7
1
3
3
5yo
8
5
2
0
6yo
7
0
4
2
7yo
5
3
1
0
8yo
17
11
3
0
9yo
6
2
1
1
Total
56??
23??
14??
6??
Back to Top
max manewer View Drop Down
Champion
Champion
Avatar

Joined: 31 Jan 2010
Status: Offline
Points: 30669
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote max manewer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Nov 2020 at 5:40pm
Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

ps though Bob's lack of appreciation might also be down to his regrettable prostate condition.  Embarrassed
SC, what is more regrettable, is your penchant for gratuitous jibes.
Back to Top
Second Chance View Drop Down
Champion
Champion
Avatar

Joined: 02 Dec 2007
Status: Offline
Points: 24165
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Second Chance Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Nov 2020 at 5:51pm
Max this is the Laundry Basket, and posts should ideally reflect that reality.

And thus I sincerely apologize if I've failed to offend anyone.
Back to Top
Tontonan View Drop Down
Champion
Champion


Joined: 13 Oct 2007
Status: Offline
Points: 3769
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tontonan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Nov 2020 at 11:22am
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Tim Whiffler 

Why the interest in 'the satin skinned bay' ?
Back to Top
Passing Through View Drop Down
Champion
Champion
Avatar

Joined: 09 Jan 2013
Location: Australia
Status: Offline
Points: 49743
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Passing Through Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Nov 2020 at 11:37am
Just the sire of the horse named in the OP that djebel so kindly supplied the breeding of. A lot of interesting stories around him, his MC win, other Tims in the same race etc.
Back to Top
Tontonan View Drop Down
Champion
Champion


Joined: 13 Oct 2007
Status: Offline
Points: 3769
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tontonan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Nov 2020 at 11:55am
Ah.  That is a different Tim again !   

The one in djebel's chart is Tim Whiffler (GB) (1859 By Van Galen (GB) from Sybil (Ire))who was also the sire of the champion filly Briseis and another Melbourne Cup winner in Darriwell.

The one you have the form chart for is Tim Whiffler (AUS) (1862 New Warrior (GB) - Cinderella) otherwise known as Sydney Tim to distinguish him from 'Melbourne Tim' Whiffler (1862 South Australian - Miss Cracknell).  They both started in the 1867 Melbourne Cup won by 'Sydney Tim'.

'Sydney Tim' was  a useful sire but not in the same league as 'Pommy Tim'.  

'Sydney Tim' produced the 1881 Great Northern Derby winner (1877 out of Parachute) who went by the name of.... you guessed it....Tim Whiffler !

NB : Tim Whiffler was the name of several maritime transports, one of them a regular immigrant ship to the colonies.







Back to Top
Passing Through View Drop Down
Champion
Champion
Avatar

Joined: 09 Jan 2013
Location: Australia
Status: Offline
Points: 49743
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Passing Through Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Nov 2020 at 11:57am
Yes that is why I posted it, very interesting stories around them and the period.


Back to Top
Tontonan View Drop Down
Champion
Champion


Joined: 13 Oct 2007
Status: Offline
Points: 3769
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Tontonan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Nov 2020 at 11:59am
PS :  The third dam of 'Pommy Tim' was named Twatty.  I am not sure that would pass the Registar these days  LOL.
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down



This page was generated in 0.094 seconds.





Click here to bet with our preferred online bookmaker, Unibet.