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    Posted: 14 Jul 2018 at 3:57am
This bloke has his 2nd race start today in race 4 at Sunny Coast. Won his first start by 5 lengths and his only trial by 12 lengths. Ran time in his first win by leading and careering away. Will be interesting to see if something can lead him tomorrow to enable Brad to take a sit and add another string to his bow. Looks a promising speedster and should make it 2 from 2.
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Can't wait see this horse again here.
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Hope you didn't blink :) Untouched and a gap job again. Ran decent time on an affected track as well. I like him. 
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He's several grades above his current opposition. Do they keep him going for an early spring stakes race in Sydney or spell for the QLD summer carnival?
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Looks to be doing it all on raw ability, so would benefit from a spell.
Untapped potential and is flying, so could no doubt keep racing.

Tough call.
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Had a chuckle this morning. Owner??? was spruiking him as a Group winner while the trainer was trying to bring the hype down a couple of notches. Guess the horse will tell them what to do but I'd dip the toe while he's hot. They can always tip him out if he isn't competitive with the better ones down south.
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No early nomination for the Golden Rose which closed the other day
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He's a gelding.
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Must be a reason for him to be gelded so early as he's by a top young sire from a a marvelous German female family.
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I heard autumn is the focus.
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Which is 7 months away.  Could/will the owner cop that patience?
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Not that good, Outback Barbie should have nearly won, and isn't even a 1200m horse. Zoustyle will be the next Most Important/I'm A Rippa, or maybe a little bit better - will never win a G1, just a solid G3-G2 Winter carnival horse.
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Originally posted by Speediskey Speediskey wrote:

Not that good, Outback Barbie should have nearly won, and isn't even a 1200m horse. Zoustyle will be the next Most Important/I'm A Rippa, or maybe a little bit better - will never win a G1, just a solid G3-G2 Winter carnival horse.



Barbie had every chance, why should she have won
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Originally posted by Speediskey Speediskey wrote:

Not that good, Outback Barbie should have nearly won, and isn't even a 1200m horse. Zoustyle will be the next Most Important/I'm A Rippa, or maybe a little bit better - will never win a G1, just a solid G3-G2 Winter carnival horse.


Barbie got hooked wide and every hope..he just ran them off their feet. He will get 1400.

Did the Sydney horse break down? Or broken heart?
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Originally posted by Heavy10 Heavy10 wrote:

Originally posted by Speediskey Speediskey wrote:

Not that good, Outback Barbie should have nearly won, and isn't even a 1200m horse. Zoustyle will be the next Most Important/I'm A Rippa, or maybe a little bit better - will never win a G1, just a solid G3-G2 Winter carnival horse.


Barbie got hooked wide and every hope..he just ran them off their feet. He will get 1400.

Did the Sydney horse break down? Or broken heart?


Found to be lame in front
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Further to that

Andrew Bensley‏ @AndrewBensley 2h2 hours ago

Trainer Adrian Bott says 3YO Chess Star took a very awkward step early in the straight in yesterday’s race at Doomben and lost all action. Thankfully has displayed no serious injury. Plan is too press ahead towards @mmsnippets Guineas on January 12.
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I do not mean to be critical, but however the caller was, I was upset with his call, specifically the over the line comment, that Chess Star folded quickly.

Anyone who saw the race would have seen, he took a awkward step in the straight and he looked like he was going to drop out, before regaining his stride late.

Probably just pulled a muscle or hit a nerve or something, but the caller was a bit harsh in his description of Chess Star's run.
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Zoustyle remains unbeaten


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18 May, 2019

The distance of 1400 metres will pose no threat to Zoustyle but any thoughts of running the unbeaten gelding in the G1 TAB Stradbroke Handicap are still up in the air according to trainer Tony Gollan.

Despite wanting to get on with the job midway through his first up assignment, the speedy son of Zoustar found plenty in the run home to hold off Godolphin’s Plague Stone in 1.09.02 when winning the $105,000 JRA Plate (1200m) for three-year-olds.

Zoustyle, which now boasts six wins from as many starts, was due to run first up in the Gold Coast Guineas on May 4 but was scratched due to a heavy track.

He entered today’s race a $7 all-in favourite for Queensland’s premier handicap at Eagle Farm on June 8 but Gollan is reluctant to commit to the $1.5 million sprint with an interrupted preparation.

“He’s a really impressive horse but was pretty fresh today and needed the run,” Gollan said.

“Whenever they’re unbeaten you get a little bit more anxious coming to the races, but he executed very well today he had a very good horse chasing him and kept his margin.

“He’s got a lovely high cruising speed, I thought they were going a lot slower than they were the first 600 metres he just makes galloping look so easy.

“There are plenty of options for him, we could go to The G2 Moreton Cup (over 1200 metres) in a fortnight, I’m not sure where he sits in The Stradbroke order now, or we could bypass that and go to the three-year-old race (Daybreak Lover) on Stradbroke day.”

Any questions as to whether the gelding could run out a strong 1200 metres against quality opposition were answered today but the 1400 metres still poses question marks for some, except Gollan.

“Definitely, 1400 metres won’t pose any problems,” Gollan said.

Zoustyle wanted to get his head up in the air as the field headed down the Aerodrome side of the course but jockey Brad Stewart wasn’t too concerned.

“It didn’t worry me too much, it was only a couple of strides he’s been bursting out of him skin to race and that can happen when they’re a bit keen," Stewart said.

“I knew we had Plauge Stone chasing us, but I was travelling nicely and didn’t need to ride him out hands and heels.”
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Come on mate, you either think the horse is a group 1 horse or not!

You can not sit there and say he is and then say oh we weill dodge the group 1 for a 3yo race.

Personally he reminds me a bit of Perast, from last year, especially in racing style. Depends on what the field is but even with 50 kilos, he will need a career best to win, I mean even Quilista ran a quicker time and at least that mare has form at the 1400m.
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Sorry Gay, that come on mate was aimed at the trainer!
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Come on mate, you either think the horse is a group 1 horse or not!

You can not sit there and say he is and then say oh we weill dodge the group 1 for a 3yo race.

Personally he reminds me a bit of Perast, from last year, especially in racing style. Depends on what the field is but even with 50 kilos, he will need a career best to win, I mean even Quilista ran a quicker time and at least that mare has form at the 1400m.


Does it need to as absolute as that?  He's simply keeping his options open.  Horse might not even make the field for the Stradbroke.  His rating was 92 prior to this last race and historically you would struggle to get in on that.
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If Quilista is a second favourite Lordy, then the field is not going to be a vintage one so, 92 should get you in.

This is the Winx factor coming into this. Trainers are now looking for picket fence preparations and they are not prepared to challenge their horses against the odds.

That is why I do admire Maher for at least trying this weekend with Dubious, at WFA. While he may not win, if he finishes top four he has run well in my eyes, and he is taking on the challenge.

The trainer has been saying for six months he is a group 1 horse, he has a good second up record, he will never get 50 kilos in a group 1 again, and the field is not going to be the best we have seen, everything has given him his opportunity, but the trainer is still umming and aahing.

The horse is lightly raced so if he does not win he still has a horse, so take up the challenge!

Each to their own, but at least Waller faced all comers with Winx, the all comers might have been the same horses all the time, but everyone had their chance to race and beat her!
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Firstly the form of horses does not dictate the entry order so whether its a "vintage" edition is irrelevant.  Zoustyle is currently around 70th in order of entry based on handicap rating.  If he goes to 96 then he'll be up in the 50's somewhere.  A lot ahead of him won't be there but he's still going the be touch and go to get a run.

Secondly I've got no idea where the Winx comparison comes from.  She never raced out of her 3yo class and her initial G1 win was in the QLD Oaks.  Taking on older horses as a 3yo was never on Waller's radar.

No need to quote when the post's directly above.


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The Winx comparison, is that trainers seem more worried these days about placing horses, instead of taking on, challengers against the odds.

You had Buffering Lordy, when you and the connections thought he was a group 1 horse did you wait six months after saying eh was a group 1 horse?

Greg Hickman thought Pierata was a group 1 horse from his summer 3yo prep, and he did what all trainers should do if they think that, he ran him in the first group 1 to come along which was the Randwick Guineas, after having run on the Hobartville.

What I am saying is either the trainer thinks he is a group 1 horse, or he doesn't. He either thinks the horse can run 1400m, or he doesn't, and he either thinks he is ready to win second up with 50 kilos or he doesn't. Hois interview after the race said he was certain the horse was ready to run in the Stradbroke, but then at the end he said I might miss the Stradbroke and run him in the Daybreak Lover instead.

Unless the horse has had a setback, and he has missed some work, then I do not see why the trainer, if he thinks he is ready would miss the Stradbroke!   
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Won’t win Straddy.. wouldn’t race him, has a lot of talent but next prep in spring let him rip..
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The Winx comparison, is that trainers seem more worried these days about placing horses, instead of taking on, challengers against the odds.

You had Buffering Lordy, when you and the connections thought he was a group 1 horse did you wait six months after saying eh was a group 1 horse?

Greg Hickman thought Pierata was a group 1 horse from his summer 3yo prep, and he did what all trainers should do if they think that, he ran him in the first group 1 to come along which was the Randwick Guineas, after having run on the Hobartville.

What I am saying is either the trainer thinks he is a group 1 horse, or he doesn't. He either thinks the horse can run 1400m, or he doesn't, and he either thinks he is ready to win second up with 50 kilos or he doesn't. Hois interview after the race said he was certain the horse was ready to run in the Stradbroke, but then at the end he said I might miss the Stradbroke and run him in the Daybreak Lover instead.

Unless the horse has had a setback, and he has missed some work, then I do not see why the trainer, if he thinks he is ready would miss the Stradbroke!   

I thought trainers always thought about placing their horses where they can win. This is no new phenomenon. Zoustyle biggest win to date is a 3yo Listed race. Gollan is smart enough to know how big the jump up is to open G1 level. He's simply keeping his options open. If you think a horse could be G1 standard it doesn't mean you have to race at G1 level at its next start. Stradbroke is one option for them. 3yo race on the same day is their alternative. There's no rule that a trainer must unequivocally declare their intentions 3 weeeks out.
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The Stradbroke is not group 1 class.

Zoustyle is unlikely to ever get the minimum in a handicap again.

They should take up the challenge.
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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

The Stradbroke is not group 1 class.

Zoustyle is unlikely to ever get the minimum in a handicap again.

They should take up the challenge.

Might not even get the chance. Has to beat the ballot.
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ZOUSTYLE (AUS)Brown gelding 2015 
Zoustar
Bay 2010		Northern Meteor
Bay 2005		Encosta de Lago
Bay 1993		Fairy King
Bay 1982		Northern Dancer
Fairy Bridge		1961
1975		2-d
5-h
Shoal Creek
Chestnut 1988		Star Way
Rolls		1977
1984		6-e
4-g
Explosive
Bay 1990		Fappiano
Bay 1977		Mr Prospector
Killaloe		1970
1970		13-c
16-a
Scuff
Chestnut 1979		Forli
Moccasin		1963
1963		3-b
5-h
Zouzou
Bay 2001		Redoute's Choice
Bay 1996		Danehill
Bay 1986		Danzig
Razyana		1977
1981		7-a
2-d
Shantha's Choice
Bay 1992		Canny Lad
Dancing Show		1987
1983		14>
8-f
Meteor Mist
Chestnut 1987		Star Shower
Chestnut 1976		Star of Heaven
Show		1961
1970		2-o
8>
Sunbuster
Brown 1982		Blockbuster
Sunshine Lass		1973
1964		1-n
8-k
Fashion
Bay 2009		Anabaa
Bay 1992		Danzig
Bay 1977		Northern Dancer
Bay 1961		Nearctic
Natalma		1954
1957		14-c
2-d
Pas de Nom
Bay or brown 1968		Admiral's Voyage
Petitioner		1959
1952		4-n
7-a
Balbonella
Brown 1984		Gay Mecene
Bay or brown 1975		Vaguely Noble
Gay Missile		1965
1967		1-d
3-l
Bamieres
Brown 1978		Riverman
Bergamasque		1969
1969		10-a
1-n
Felina
Chestnut 1993		Acatenango
Chestnut 1982		Surumu
Chestnut 1974		Literat
Surama		1965
1970		7-b
19>
Aggravate
Bay 1966		Aggressor
Raven Locks		1955
1945		10-d
11-a
Fireglow
Bay or brown 1988		Glow
Bay or brown 1983		Northern Dancer
Glisk		1961
1972		2-d
1-s
Flash Dancer
Chestnut 1983		Sharpman
Full of Courage		1976
1968		1-l
8-f
 Ancestor duplications:Northern Dancer5m x 4m,5m Danzig5m x 3m
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