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    Posted: 02 Apr 2015 at 12:29am
Wednesday, 1 April 2015
Warning From Stewards - Testing For Xenon And Argon Gas

Industry participants are warned that xenon and argon gas are prohibited substances in accordance with AR177B(2)(a) & (l) as they are categorised as both erythropoiesis-stimulating agents and also hypoxia inducible factor (HIF)-1 stabilisers.

Methods of analysis for the detection of xenon & argon in blood and urine samples have been developed by an anti-doping laboratory and Racing NSW is committed to ensure that the practice of xenon & argon administration does not pose a threat to the integrity of thoroughbred racing.

Recently the Institute of Biochemistry, German Sport University, Cologne, Germany was included into AR1 as an Official Racing Laboratory and Racing NSW places participants on notice that samples found to contain these substances by Official Racing Laboratories shall be reported to Racing NSW Stewards in accordance with AR178D(2).

Further participants are advised that samples stored at the Australian Racing Forensic Laboratory, may under the provisions of AR178DD(2), be re-submitted to be analysed for xenon & argon.


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Doping Agency Bans Xenon And Argon

Sports: Athletes have been using noble gases to boost oxygen-carrying capacity of blood
Department: Science & Technology | Collection: Life Sciences
News Channels: Biological SCENE, Analytical SCENE
Keywords: xenon, argon, performance enhancer, doping

The World Anti-Doping Agency, which governs international drug testing for competitive athletes, will add the noble gases xenon and argon to its List of Prohibited Substances & Methods effective Sept. 1.

It’s hard to imagine how the essentially chemically inert gaseous elements could improve athletic performance. But xenon is surprisingly bioactive and can enhance the oxygen-carrying capacity of blood. Argon is thought to work the same way.

Xenon is known to interact with protein receptors and ion channels and function as a hypoxia-inducible factor (HIF), similar to nitrous oxide (laughing gas). As such, xenon has been used as an anesthetic for decades, notably in Russia.

When it comes to improving athletic performance, xenon is one of several agents known to activate production of HIF-1α, a protein alarm that triggers other proteins to come to the rescue of tissues deprived of oxygen. One of those secondary proteins is erythropoietin (EPO), a hormone that encourages the formation of red blood cells. Synthetic EPO is used for treating anemia in patients with cancer and kidney disease, but it is infamous as a banned performance-enhancing drug, especially among endurance athletes such as cyclists.

Athletes have turned to inhaling xenon in the same way they might train in low-oxygen conditions at high altitude. Xenon and argon clear from the body within hours, but the performance-enhancing effects can last several days. The agency did not announce how it would test for xenon or argon doping, which may be hard to detect beyond measuring variable HIF-1α or EPO levels.

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Do you get the impression that it is a game of catch-up ?  I have reason to believe that "gear" has become a major determinant in the results of races, building over particularly the last 3-4 years.
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if these guys go to the US and Mexico etc to find these performance enhancing drugs and bring them back, what exactly is stopping our well-funded administrators from doing the same so they can preempt it rather than play catch up - or is it all part of the game, allowing certain people some time to use, and win... 
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Better check which horsey people have been buying the gas bottles, I guess they could be doing a lot of Argon arc welding. LOL
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I can just imagine these mad scientist horse trainers trying out their latest invention in a back paddock somewhere. 
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Been told this has been finding its way up the western highway for some time , let's see how this plays out
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Sounds like you'd have to check before the race day to catch it.
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i wonder if these gases are used in conjunction with altitude chambers??
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Busted! Nitrous oxide.

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Dang!
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And one particular Vic trainer may have just lost his perennial smile...
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Any chance it's a bloke who's had a long time between Gp 1 winners?
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Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:



Any chance it's a bloke who's had a long time between Gp 1 winners?



Not the one I have heard......
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On March 20, 2006, the president of the Russian Olympic Committee sent a letter to the director of the ZAO Atom-Med Center thanking the researcher and his team for helping to “prepare” the Russian national team for the 2006 Turin Winter Olympics (see image below). Of the 22 Russian athletes that won medals at those Games, 15 had used a xenon-based mixture of gases as part of their preparation — a preparation program that had been officially approved by the Russian government.


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And pressure is mounting on racing authorities throughout Australia to begin outlawing the use of low-oxygen chambers or tents following the discovery they were being used to enhance the performance of racehorses.

The World Anti-Doping Agency have in the past few months banned the use of theRussian-developed gas.

The Australian Racing Board has allowed oxygen chambers and there are several at Flemington and Ballarat.

However, given that these chambers provide an opportunity for illicit xenon use, such chambers could be banned by the end of the racing season.

Fairfax Media has also been told that some trainers, incensed by the use of such chambers by fellow trainers, are making official complaints over the use.

And it's also understood that RVL integrity officers are monitoring the purchase of xenon gas, which is only available from a small number of specialist suppliers.

Both WADA rules and the Australian rules of racing ban synthetic EPO and HIF stabilisers as methods which artificially raise the levels of EPO and blood-doping.

Xenon has a similar action to cobalt as it increases HIF protein causing the body to increase EPO levels.  

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Ok, so which trainers have these oxygen / altitude tents? And what are they pumping through them?
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Weiry has one but it hasn't been used as such for at least 3 years. All opened up & in regular use with the other 3. I understand he saw little if any benefit from it given the excellent facilities we have here for plentiful anaerobic work.
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Originally posted by Gay3 Gay3 wrote:

Weiry has one but it hasn't been used as such for at least 3 years. All opened up & in regular use with the other 3. I understand he saw little if any benefit from it given the excellent facilities we have here for plentiful anaerobic work.

I am surprised more large stables don't use the facilities in Ballarat. It's a fantastic spot being quiet and looks great for training.
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Around 1970,living in WA as per normal and being a purchaser of the SYDNEY MORNING HERALD (M-SAT), I was amazed to see a photo (in a daily edition) of one of TJ SMITH's horses,after a race,with a make-shift feed bag covering half the head,pumping oxygen.

TJ was castigated for this and told not to do it again. (at the track)

Gosh,he was so much a forward thinker.(with Percy's help)
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I wonder if Gai has the picture in the family scrap album.

I'd love to see it again.

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Originally posted by The Insider The Insider wrote:

Ok, so which trainers have these oxygen / altitude tents? And what are they pumping through them?

They don't need tents, just a nebuliser, they can deliver any gas or drug through them, advertised for just under $700.00 obviously for enhancing 
the horses health in most cases.
https://www.facebook.com/MedivetMpts360EquineNebuliser?fref=nf
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Originally posted by RED HUNTER RED HUNTER wrote:

I wonder if Gai has the picture in the family scrap album.

I'd love to see it again.

We need KangaMick for this task.
Would that be available on the Trove website ? Possibly not old enough.
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Originally posted by RED HUNTER RED HUNTER wrote:

Around 1970,living in WA as per normal and being a purchaser of the SYDNEY MORNING HERALD (M-SAT), I was amazed to see a photo (in a daily edition) of one of TJ SMITH's horses,after a race,with a make-shift feed bag covering half the head,pumping oxygen.

TJ was castigated for this and told not to do it again. (at the track)

Gosh,he was so much a forward thinker.(with Percy's help)

He had oxygen bottles in his truck, even on race day.

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From memory, and some here will know, TJ's record at Randwick was just streets ahead of his performance at the other Sydney tracks. Some scallywag once explained the reason, as he saw it, for this discrepancy. A Queen's Counsel would probably describe the explanation given, as "scurrilous". It was said to be the theory, or even certain knowledge, of a now-deceased rival trainer, and did have an air of plausibility about it, but will likely forever remain scuttlebutt.
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Originally posted by Tuft_it_Tees Tuft_it_Tees wrote:

From memory, and some here will know, TJ's record at Randwick was just streets ahead of his performance at the other Sydney tracks. Some scallywag once explained the reason, as he saw it, for this discrepancy. A Queen's Counsel would probably describe the explanation given, as "scurrilous". It was said to be the theory, or even certain knowledge, of a now-deceased rival trainer, and did have an air of plausibility about it, but will likely forever remain scuttlebutt.

Pretty sure TJ won't sue you if tell us what the hell you are talking about.
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More than just TJ involved, and since I can't speak to the veracity of it, leave it at that. I bet others know what I am alluding to.
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If no one else does, I'm sure linghi will LOL LOL & quite likely Overseer Wink
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Originally posted by Tuft_it_Tees Tuft_it_Tees wrote:

More than just TJ involved, and since I can't speak to the veracity of it, leave it at that. I bet others know what I am alluding to.
 
Hope your're not alluding to Bart, because that's just not correct.
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Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

Originally posted by Tuft_it_Tees Tuft_it_Tees wrote:

More than just TJ involved, and since I can't speak to the veracity of it, leave it at that. I bet others know what I am alluding to.
 
Hope your're not alluding to Bart, because that's just not correct.
lol.....he names someone, then says he hopes I'm not implicating him. Shocked Nothing to do with Bart Cummings, if that is who you mean.
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