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Obama had nothing to do with Trump laundering money for the Iranian Revolutionary Guard.

Obama though imposed sanctions on Iran which were abused by an Iranian gold trader named Reza Zarrab, who is now in prison having plead guilty of defying those sanctions to the tune of billions of dollars passing the gold through Turkey to pass back to Iran.

Why do you reckon Trump would try to interfere in the court case asking Rex Tillerson to get involved to get the Iranian off. Rex said no and reported it. Trump then got Rudy involved in the case blow it up, but the judge knowing what was going on struck Rudy off the case.

And I thought Iran were the bad guys. Trump certainly tries hard to please them.

All information is readily available including court documents.
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Oh, and that isn't the Trump and his daughter laudering for Soleimani, that is another story. 

Actually Baguette is familiar with that one, she has posted on it several times in the Trump thread.
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U.S. judge ‘stunned’ by Giuliani ’s determination to terminate Zarrab case - analysis

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The U.S. Judge presiding over the high profile U.S. sanctions busting case involving Turkish-Iranian gold trader Reza Zarrab, said he was shocked by the determination former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani displayed in serving as an intermediary between Turkey’s President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and his U.S. counterpart Donald Trump in terminating the case, writes Adam Klasfeld, a reporter for U.S.-based Courthouse News.

The case, dubbed the “the biggest sanctions evasion case prosecuted in the United States,’’ exposed a scheme to move Iranian money past U.S. sanctions through HalkBank, one of Turkey’s largest state-owned banks. Turkish-Iranian gold trader Reza Zarrab, who turned state’s witness in the case, implicated high-ranking Turkish politicians in the scheme, including former economy minister Zafer Çağlayan.

Zarrab pleaded guilty to seven counts of sanctions violations, money laundering and bribery when Giuliani’s pressure in his case failed, Klasfeld explains. Judge Richard Berman became household name halfway across the world in Turkey, following the cooperation agreement Zarrab reached with prosecutors.

Evidence in the Zarrab case showed as well that Giuliani’s law firm Greenberg Traurig acted as a registered agent for the Turkish government, the article notes.

“Had Rudy succeeded, he and the two presidents…. would have helped very significantly the country of Iran – which was the beneficiary of the conspiracies to avoid USA sanctions against Iran, i.e. the very heart of the allegations in this case,” the site quotes Berman as writing. “My head still spins when I consider that.”


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sorry PT , I was wrong.
Let me adjust to suit your bent.

Iran good....orange man bad... Rudy bad....Iran good💡
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GeneralMike Flynn who was Trump's National security Advisor before being fired is now awaiting sentencing next Friday for his part in these events and for lying to the FBI 

He had been fully cooperating and it was recommended that he be let off, only pleading guilty to the lying, the rest forgiven, He gave up everyone to Mueller who was pleased. The judge however called him a traitor and wanted to imprison him. 

He promised to cooperate and sentencing was delayed pending cooperation in another case involving Turkey, Urdogan, Trump etc. Last week the DOJ changed their minds and has asked the same judge to give him the longest term allowable after he tried to blow up the case.

These people are all fleas and up to their ears in corruption. There are no good guys and bad guys in this Iran saga, just bad guys and worse guys. 
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No Shrunky Iran is bad, Orange man worse.
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Quote from British Journalist.
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Few sensible Australians believe the nonsense that climate change is responsible for these fires.  The ones that do believe it are the kind of people who, in the US, would have voted for Hillary.
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Originally posted by acacia alba acacia alba wrote:

Quote from British Journalist.
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Few sensible Australians believe the nonsense that climate change is responsible for these fires.  The ones that do believe it are the kind of people who, in the US, would have voted for Hillary.


“Other issues of how you manage hazard reduction are important because, as you say, the impact, more broadly, of climate change on these issues has a pronounced effect on the length of the fire season,” Scott Morrison yesterday.


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Originally posted by Shrunk in the Wash Shrunk in the Wash wrote:



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Dont know if it is the same person but a low level person has been arrested as the person claimed responsible for the ''error''

Like Mohammad Bone Saws and Jamal Kosshoggi's killers facing ''justice'', this guy and a few other low order people will be executed cause you know, dead men tell no tales and their colleagues friends and family dont want to join them in paradise just yet.

The regime will claim that justice has been done. For that anyway, not Soleimani's death. That will follow.
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How long will it be before the Iranian Citizen Protestors start waving American Flags like their Hong Kong counterparts?

 ... or as Nancy Pelosi says, nothing to see here ..."they are just students upset because the plane went down with some students on board" ... take yo a month to think that one up Skelator?

So nothing to do with their hatred of the regime, clearly, the citizens are ok with that.Wink
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Dont know if it is the same person but a low level person has been arrested as the person claimed responsible for the ''error''

Like Mohammad Bone Saws and Jamal Kosshoggi's killers facing ''justice'', this guy and a few other low order people will be executed cause you know, dead men tell no tales and their colleagues friends and family dont want to join them in paradise just yet.

The regime will claim that justice has been done. For that anyway, not Soleimani's death. That will follow.

Can't arrest a dead man PT.
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Did you get from a fortune cookie or a Christmas cracker?
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... and Epstein didn't kill himself.
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... oh wait ... they did arrest Epstein! ... unless you just consider that a part of his assasination.
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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And George Nader is quietly going to prison and saying nothing rather than get ''Epsteined''
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Justin Trudeau blames escalation between Trump and Iran for the deaths of 63 Canadians in the crash of Flight 752

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  • Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has suggested President Donald Trump bears some responsibility for Iran’s mistaken downing of a commercial airliner last week.
  • Trudeau argued in a new interview that Iran never would have shot the plane down – killing all 176 passengers and crew members, including 63 Canadians – if tensions between the US and Iran hadn’t recently escalated.
  • “If there were no tensions, if there was no escalation recently in the region, those Canadians would be right now home with their families,” Trudeau told Global News.
  • “This is something that happens when you have conflict and war,” Trudeau added. “Innocents bear the brunt of it, and it is a reminder why all of us need to work so hard on de-escalation.”
  • http://www.businessinsider.com.au/justin-trudeau-blames-plane-crash-on-trump-and-irans-escalation-2020-1?r=US&IR=T
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Is that the same bloke of the "Black Face" fiasco?

Sort of takes away from his credibility,  dont you think pt?

Wonder how  MHHHegan feels about that?

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Welcome back Isaac, your unusual perspective has been missed...I think.
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Yep, according to Isaac an indiscretion 17 years agoweighs on Trudeau's credibility today.

How naive, how out of touch, how only too typical.  Ermm
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One might even add, how sanctimonious.
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I am shocked that Trump lied about this. While the truth is starting to leak out, how many were killed(there were reports around Washington of a significant number) and what is Donald going to do about it? Surely this cant stand.

34 US troops had brain injuries from Iran’s strike, Pentagon says

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  • The Pentagon said Friday that 34 U.S. troops were diagnosed with traumatic brain injuries suffered in this month’s Iranian missile strike on an Iraqi air base.
  • President Donald Trump had initially said he was told that no troops had been injured in the Jan. 8 strike.
  • The military said symptoms were not immediately reported after the strike and in some cases became known days later.
  • The Pentagon said Friday that 34 U.S. troops were diagnosed with traumatic brain injuries suffered in this month’s Iranian missile strike on an Iraqi air base, and that half of the troops have returned to their military duties.

    Seventeen of the 34 are still under medical observation, according to Jonathan Hoffman, the chief Pentagon spokesman.

    President Donald Trump had initially said he was told that no troops had been injured in the Jan. 8 strike. The military said symptoms were not immediately reported after the strike and in some cases became known days later.

    After the first reports that some soldiers had been hurt, Trump referred to them as “headaches” and said the cases were not as serious as injuries involving the loss of limbs.

    Hoffman’s disclosure that 34 had been diagnosed with traumatic brain injury, or TBI, was the first update on the number injured in Iran’s missile attack on Ain al-Asad air base in western Iraq since the Pentagon said on Jan. 17 that 11 service members had been flown out of Iraq with concussion-like symptoms.

    Hoffman said that of the 34 with TBI, 18 were evacuated from Iraq to U.S. medical facilities in Germany and Kuwait, and 16 stayed in Iraq. Seventeen of the 18 evacuees were sent to Germany, and nine remain there; the other eight have been transported to the United States for continued observation or treatment.

    The one American sent to Kuwait has since returned to duty. All 16 of those who were diagnosed with TBI and remained in Iraq have since returned to duty, Hoffman said.

    No one was killed in the attack on Ain al-Asad. The strike was launched in retaliation for a U.S. drone missile strike that killed Qassem Soleimani, the most powerful military general in Iran, on Jan. 3 at Baghdad International Airport.

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Nice try, but I don't thing they report blisters or ingrowing toenails either PT ... it's the Military, not Extinction Rebellion you bed wetting snowflake.Cry
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Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Nice try, but I don't thing they report blisters or ingrowing toenails either PT ... it's the Military, not Extinction Rebellion you bed wetting snowflake.Cry

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Good to see your you're back in form!Smile
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Just googled it - some guys got some varying levels of concussion from a missile strike. That'll happen. There's a new acronym for concussion now - TBI. Footy players and boxers get it all the time, let alone soldiers. Trump shouldn't have spoken lightly of it when he makes such a big deal about caring for the military etc, but relatively speaking it's nothing.

It could be the next reason to impeach him though. Oh sorry, he's "impeached forever" already.
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Did 34 people go to hospital or not. The Trump Administration said nobody was injured or killed.

It is hard to misplace that many people with shell shock.

But then again they did try to cover up the deaths of US soldiers in Niger a couple of years ago also.
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Concussion usually presents a couple of days later.

Does it matter though? Some soldiers got concussion.
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