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Just a question to values TBV members. How many girls / women have a desire to play League (or Union for that matter) ? I asked my daughter & her numerous girlfriends the other day. Not one of them said yes. Most had no interest in the game from even a spectator point of view. My wife the same. Seriously have never come across ANY girl / women who say they do. Suggests to me that it is being driven by a very small - dare I say it - group within our population. Its hard not to think many of the girls playing the sport are not "butch". Not a great look physically for the vast majority either. Now I'm not saying they shouldn't be playing the game - far from it. If they want to belt the tripe out of each other that's ok with me. The problem I have is the push to promote / show the game as if its a mainstream sport for women - because it just isn't & in my mind will probably never be one. The sad thing to me is that we (mostly men) are watching it for different reasons to a men's game. It is not being watched for skill level that's for sure - more the novelty of women performing "unwomenly" (my new word). I'd love to put together a book of comments from spectators watching the game from a collection of pubs - a lot of very disparaging comments. Yet they still watch it. Is that what women in the game really want ? So bottom line - is the cause for women to be equal in all areas really being helped by stuff like this ? I don't think so.
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A triumph for gender equality.

I got no problem with them but I do find it irritating when female athletes gripe about money. Get the bums on seats, eyes on idiot boxes and the money will follow- it doesn't work the other way around.
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The success the women's game is currently having is for all the wrong reasons imo. They are a spectacle for women brutality. It would hardly inspire any parent to encourage their daughters to play the game. In most folks eyes (men & women) a female should have feminine qualities. Is that an out-dated idea ? Playing Rugby does little to achieve that end. MOST women cannot even relate to those playing it
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Rugby league girls: Female numbers on rise in Sydney’s west

PHIL ROTHFIELD, SPORTS EDITOR-AT-LARGE, The Sunday Telegraph
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No surprise there PT. That's were the vast majority of Polynesian girls live. You know - 15 stone plus & built like brick outhouses. Wrecking balls !
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Gee there's some crap in that article
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Hows many girls up around your way have a desire to play Rugby PT ? How many even know what the games is ? Zilch - yeah thought so ! How many polynsesian girls living up there ? Zilch - yeah thought so !
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It is The Telegraph reporting on the Western Suburbs.
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Well the article is fairer than I first thought. The picture of the 4 girls has 3 of them being Polynesian - 75%. If it showed 3 1/2 girls it would be closer - but not too bad I suppose ! Question - would you (or anyone else on here) encourage your daughter to play league or union ?
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Numbers for women’s AFL are skyrocketing, nationwide. Ask girls the attraction and they’ll invariably say “Because it’s so much fun”. I’d imagine girls playing League would say the same.
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Cant ever imagine wanting to play footy myself.  ( When younger ).  However, if they are playing sport, and making friends, and learning to work as a team,  instead of out running wild , doing drugs and popping out babies, it cant be all bad.  Many of the Pro players I think are gay, so  I am not surprised they like the game. But there seem to be a lot of school kids playing, and if its keeping them off the streets and out of trouble, its a good thing.
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Originally posted by JudgeHolden JudgeHolden wrote:

Numbers for women’s AFL are skyrocketing, nationwide. Ask girls the attraction and they’ll invariably say “Because it’s so much fun”. I’d imagine girls playing League would say the same.
Not sure you could ever compare League /Union to AFL re brutality Judge. Not knocking AFL either - just a totally different game re physicality. I could actually imagine encouraging my daughter to play AFL. Not so Rugby.
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Originally posted by acacia alba acacia alba wrote:

Cant ever imagine wanting to play footy myself.  ( When younger ).  However, if they are playing sport, and making friends, and learning to work as a team,  instead of out running wild , doing drugs and popping out babies, it cant be all bad.  Many of the Pro players I think are gay, so  I am not surprised they like the game. But there seem to be a lot of school kids playing, and if its keeping them off the streets and out of trouble, its a good thing.
I think that was my point Acacia. It is a game that seems to attract much more than its share of butch women. Butch women, Polynesian & Indigenous women seems to be the target group. MOST women have absolutely NO interest in playing it 
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I just have one question.

If the women are out on the field, whose running the canteen???Confused
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Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

I just have one question.

If the women are out on the field, whose running the canteen???Confused
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I think I've got the answer to get women out of sport. Just make it totally genderless.

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Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

I think I've got the answer to get women out of sport. Just make it totally genderless.

Hang on - what's that ? - you don't want it to be that equal !
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Originally posted by JudgeHolden JudgeHolden wrote:

Numbers for women’s AFL are skyrocketing, nationwide. Ask girls the attraction and they’ll invariably say “Because it’s so much fun”. I’d imagine girls playing League would say the same.

Very true judge.

The AFL Sydney has 21 senior teams across 2 divisions and is growing exponentially. 

Anecdotally we saw numbers playing soccer grow strongly in Sydney, probably up until 5 or 6 years ago, but AFL is definitely gaining great traction amongst girls, particularly on the back of the success of the AFLW Competition 

Numbers involved in Auskick keep growing, as do girls under age team numbers. 

... and parents are much more comfortable with girls playing soccer or AFL, than league, for obvious reasons.

120 kg girls with no stamina tend to enjoy the brutality of league more than the other codes.

Personally, I would only watch women's sport if there was no men's equivalent to watch, and thus the success of the AFL version.
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https://www.harveynorman.com.au/blog/initiatives/harvey-norman-presents-the-australian-jillaroos-womens-national-rugby-league-team/
Yep, definitely all 120k butch monsters... you bunch of idiots! LOL Surely you can find something better to do?
 
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Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Originally posted by JudgeHolden JudgeHolden wrote:

Numbers for women’s AFL are skyrocketing, nationwide. Ask girls the attraction and they’ll invariably say “Because it’s so much fun”. I’d imagine girls playing League would say the same.

Not sure you could ever compare League /Union to AFL re brutality Judge. Not knocking AFL either - just a totally different game re physicality. I could actually imagine encouraging my daughter to play AFL. Not so Rugby.


But the fact remains- they’re doing it because they love it.

Regarding AFL, it doesn’t have relentless collision that rugby does but in some ways it’s more dangerous. It’s a game when you get legitimately hit when you’re not expecting it, as opposition players aren’t just in front of you but all around you, and the game is essentially chaotic.

This actually worries me a bit. I’ve been to a women’s AFL game. Standard was ordinary but by gees the girls have a crack. Unfortunately most of them have grown up playing other aports so they don’t simultaneously brace for contact and protect themselves as well as men who’ve been playing their whole lives. An 18yo girl coming off with her face caved in after head butting someone’s knee will be a PR disaster for the AFL.

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They have to survive the 120 kg front rowers at park level to progress to this ...


My 80kg son who played State level AFL wouldn't stand a chance against these girls, let alone his little sister!Dead
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Originally posted by JudgeHolden JudgeHolden wrote:

Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Originally posted by JudgeHolden JudgeHolden wrote:

Numbers for women’s AFL are skyrocketing, nationwide. Ask girls the attraction and they’ll invariably say “Because it’s so much fun”. I’d imagine girls playing League would say the same.

Not sure you could ever compare League /Union to AFL re brutality Judge. Not knocking AFL either - just a totally different game re physicality. I could actually imagine encouraging my daughter to play AFL. Not so Rugby.


But the fact remains- they’re doing it because they love it.

Regarding AFL, it doesn’t have relentless collision that rugby does but in some ways it’s more dangerous. It’s a game when you get legitimately hit when you’re not expecting it, as opposition players aren’t just in front of you but all around you, and the game is essentially chaotic.

This actually worries me a bit. I’ve been to a women’s AFL game. Standard was ordinary but by gees the girls have a crack. Unfortunately most of them have grown up playing other aports so they don’t simultaneously brace for contact and protect themselves as well as men who’ve been playing their whole lives. An 18yo girl coming off with her face caved in after head butting someone’s knee will be a PR disaster for the AFL.



Rugby union is OFF the scale for spinal injuries compared to the other footy codes. 117 in one study I saw reported a couple of weeks ago. Rugby league and soccer were next on 18 and 17.

That's from memory. Read it in last couple of weeks- on ABC I think- can't be bothered tracking it down now.
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The risk of injury is part and parcel of elite level sports.

The risk of assault at junior and lower grade levels is exponentially higher in rugby league, compared with rugby, soccer and AFL, either sex.It's simply a consequence of the participation demographic.
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I don't know where femininity disappeared too.

The Grand Final for Ladies used to be at the Maternity Unit.

Now It's at Penrith Park.
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Interesting comment Macca. I'd like to know what differences between men & women are now acceptable ? Are there any practices / mannerisms/ approaches that are generally either male or female. There certainly used to be. I suppose as soon as we identify a few they will just be attacked as being discrimitory anyway - so what's the use. The end point of all this can only be one thing - men & women eventually evolve or manufacture themselves into the one being - sounds reasonable. Maybe organise it so you can have sex with yourself as a bonus. We have really gone crazy as a society with this stuff. I also don't accept on the whole we are happier / more contented because of the madness. I suppose as long as the 1 or 2% of population that have never fitted in feel a BIT better the whole process is worth it. 
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It all started with women wanting to be jockeys.Big smile
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Which reminds me - when are we going to have an Affirmative Action plan for white footy players. The Polynesian/indigenous boys (& esp girls) have well & truly more than there quota. Just because they are built like brick outhouses, run like the wing, can turn on a sixpence, are more numb to pain - is no reason to take the game away from the "traditional" white folk. Needs to be sorted big time !
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& don't get me started on the natural advantages blackfellas have in sports like basketball either. Or in the bedroom for that matter. Grossly unfair !
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