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Race 1 - WINX STAKES [GROUP 1] (1400 METRES) Times displayed in local time of Race Meeting Of $500,000.1st $287,000, 2nd $94,000, 3rd $49,500, 4th $22,250, 5th $12,250, 6th $5,000, 7th $5,000, 8th $5,000, 9th $5,000, 10th $5,000, Equine Welfare Fund $5,000, Jockey Welfare Fund $5,000. GROUP 1
Standard Weight for Age, Three-Years-Old and Upwards, Apprentices cannot claim.

Track Name: Randwick Track Type: Turf

Field Limit: 14 + 4 EM    NOMINATIONS EXTENDED TO: 14/08/2018 11:00:00 AM
  Last 10 Horse Sex Age Trainer Hcp Rating
1 111x55462x ACE HIGH H 4 David Payne 106
2 113x16041x ALIZEE M 4 James Cummings 110
3 111x11820x CABEZA DE VACA G 7 Gai Waterhouse & Adrian Bott 101
4 2511x7389x CLASSIC UNIFORM G 6 Gary Moore 107
5 11x13714x D’ARGENTO H 4 Chris Waller 104
6 22x3620x40 INVICTUS PRINCE (GB) G 6 Matthew Smith 77
7 16528x420x LIBRAN (IRE) G 8 Chris Waller 105
8 6214x6110x LUVALUVA (NZ) M 4 John Sargent 95
9 1611x22x04 RELIGIFY G 8 Chris Waller 107
10 10x23723x5 SHOWTIME H 4 Michael, Wayne & John Hawkes 105
11 420x22525x SINGLE GAZE M 6 Chris Waller 108
12 x111x0121x UNFORGOTTEN M 4 Chris Waller 105
13 11111x111x WINX M 7 Chris Waller 132








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I think Alizee can knock Winx off.



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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

I think Alizee can knock Winx off.



I think she won first up last time Djebel .

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Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

I think Alizee can knock Winx off.



I think she won first up last time Djebel .

Have you mentioned your thinking to the Psychiatrist.   

Djebel might be on the money - winx is the best I've seen but she is getting older and 1400 at this stage of her career is too short. She probably still wins but i reckon there will be a few anxious moments
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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

I think Alizee can knock Winx off.


I had the same thought but went back and looked at the trial and Winx almost mounted her like a stallion near the line. Winx is ready to go.
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I think the 1400 is too short for her.
Will be looking for something to beat her.
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Alizee is also in the Show County. Better suited there.
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The P.B Lawrence is shaping as a much better 1400m contest.



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Agree djebel, terrific mix of horses nominated for the Lawrence.

Great to have the good horses back.
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Winx has so much on her rivals that she could put in a bad one and still win. Good luck finding something to beat her!
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Think it's too short for her as well. Will only win by 3 is my call.
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If D'Argento is as good as has been said he would want to be finishing n front of everything but Winx.
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Haven’t found anything to beat her yet.
This is the wrong race for her, but she will win.
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To beat Winx first up at 1400m I'd be looking for something with class that can control the race up front, slow it down, then scoot. But I can't see that type of horse here. Alizee will be back with Winx won't she?
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I’m interested in Showtime if I can find a Winx out market. Last time second up 1400 ran third behind Brave Smash and Tosen Stardom. Reckon they stuffed his prep up after that- I think rolling along in front 1400-1600 is his go. First up run looked like just a run to me, ridden cold. Will be ready to go here I reckon. Although it’s entirely possible I’m being way too forgiving of this horse.

That’s if he runs . Also nommed for the Lawrence.
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Kementari late nom?
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Originally posted by Bonfield Bonfield wrote:

Kementari late nom?


You have to wonder why this would not have been a target ?



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They probably wanted Alizee to run, but she is now out for the spring so nommed Kementari instead.
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Turns out he is a late nom.

Perhaps Alizee is not going to run.


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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Turns out he is a late nom.

Perhaps Alizee is not going to run.

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Kementari makes it interesting.
If they ride him conservative, no chance.
I hope they use some initiative and try and beat her at her own game.
Will be a fascinating race to watch, not so much bet on.
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Depending on where he draws I imagine him box seating.



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Runner
TAB Prop No
Win
WINX.
178950
1.12
KEMENTARI
178930
8.00
DARGENTO
178916
13.00
ACE HIGH
178901
26.00
SHOWTIME
178957
26.00
LUVALUVA
178955
51.00
SINGLE GAZE
178958
51.00
UNFORGOTTEN
178948
51.00
CABEZA DE VACA
178908
101.00
CLASSIC UNIFORM
178912
101.00
RELIGIFY
178956
101.00
INVICTUS PRINCE
178954
201.00
LIBRAN
178934
201.00
ORIENTAL RUNNER
178959
301.00
Further runners may be added
179000
SUSP
Nominations Extended
178999
SUSP


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Originally posted by JudgeHolden JudgeHolden wrote:

I’m interested in Showtime if I can find a Winx out market. Last time second up 1400 ran third behind Brave Smash and Tosen Stardom. Reckon they stuffed his prep up after that- I think rolling along in front 1400-1600 is his go. First up run looked like just a run to me, ridden cold. Will be ready to go here I reckon. Although it’s entirely possible I’m being way too forgiving of this horse.

That’s if he runs . Also nommed for the Lawrence.

Had similar thoughts before K was nommed Judge. He was sent around for a run last start after drawing wide. Thought he might be sitting on a moderate pace and give a good kick late before Winx swept past. There looks to be minimal pace but I'm guessing Waller will send one out with appropriate instructions  despite recent warnings about pacesetters (or did I dream that?).
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1st of 7RAND 20Aug16 1400m Good4 WARWICKSTK Group 2 $252,000 ($152,000) Hugh Bowman 57kg Barrier 4 Rtg 123 
2nd Hartnell (GB) 59kg, 3rd Rebel Dane 59kg 1:23.83 (600m 32.89), 3.5L, 2nd@800m, 2nd@400m, $1.28/$1.24/$1.24
1st of 12RAND 13Feb17 1400m Good4 APOLLO Group 2 $252,000 ($145,750) Hugh Bowman 57kg Barrier 2 Rtg 132 
2nd Hartnell (GB) 59kg, 3rd Endless Drama (IRE) 59kg 1:22.57 (600m 34.96), 2.8L, 6th@800m, 5th@400m, $1.12/$1.14/$1.16/$1.14

1st of 8RAND 19Aug17 1400m Good3 WARWICK STK Group 2 $252,000 ($145,750) Hugh Bowman 57kg Barrier 2 Rtg 132 
2nd Foxplay 56.5kg, 3rd Ecuador (NZ) 59kg 1:21.87 (600m 32.93), 0.2L, 8th@800m, 8th@400m, $1.08/$1.09/$1.10

1st of 9RAND 03Mar18 1600m Soft5 CH NORTON Group 1 $605,000 ($349,000) Hugh Bowman 57kg Barrier 6 Rtg 132 
2nd Prized Icon 59kg, 3rd Classic Uniform 59kg 1:34.92 (600m 35.41), 7L, 8th@800m, 4th@400m, $1.08/$1.09


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She has to be vulnerable chasing a tip top horse like Kenentari first up surely ?

Her tote price will be interesting, Will there be that much money on her that she pays less than $1.40 ?

 


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24 Mar 2018  ROSEHILL R5    $1,007,000  GEORGE RYDER STAKES (G1) 1500m  34.06 / 1:31.481st WINX0.8L 57HUGH BOWMAN (6)1-6$587,0003rd KEMENTARI1.8L 56BRENTON AVDULLA (5)15-2$98,000



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I am excited by this race, Kenemtari Vs Winx.

Should she win this it will be a far greater achievement than winning a 4th Cox Plate.




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He does look the only one able to beat her but:
Anyone considering Special K should be waiting to see who rides and what barrier he draws.
Glyn would surely make it easy for the other 5 Waller runners to box him in on the rail. Again.

Giving Winx 1.5 kgs. The race should be renamed the "Winx Gift".

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Originally posted by scamanda scamanda wrote:

He does look the only one able to beat her but:
Anyone considering Special K should be waiting to see who rides and what barrier he draws.
Glyn would surely make it easy for the other 5 Waller runners to box him in on the rail. Again.

Giving Winx 1.5 kgs. The race should be renamed the "Winx Gift".


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