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t the time he was several years into a career as a sports program officer at Victoria University when he decided to apply for the elite Darley Flying Start program.

The two-year program, which was founded by Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid al Maktoum of Dubai is open to just 12 candidates each year from a selection pool across the world.

When he was selected he got an around-the-world crash course in all aspects of the racing industry, from training to stud management, business and veterinary care.

‘‘I wouldn’t be where I am without it,’’ he said.
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Still waiting for the Makybe Diva , accepted and scratched a few times and then vanished
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Originally posted by Prince of Penzance Prince of Penzance wrote:

Still waiting for the Makybe Diva , accepted and scratched a few times and then vanished

SURREY - a 5yo by High Chaparral x Makybe Diva

I’d be surprised if he ever saw the race track.
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padding-left: 5px; : rgb240, 240, 240;"></td><td ="horse-name-column" style="width: 250px; padding-left: 5px; : rgb240, 240, 240;">Aloft (IRE)</td><td ="trainer-column" style="padding-left: 5px; : rgb240, 240, 240;"> </td><td ="weight-column" style="width: 80px; padding-left: 5px; : rgb240, 240, 240;"> </td><td ="status-column" style="width: 80px; padding-left: 5px; : rgb240, 240, 240;"> </td></tr><tr ="OddRow" style=": rgb209, 210, 212; height: 30px; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.5px;"><td ="silk-column" style="width: 55px; padding-left: 5px; -: initial; -: initial; -size: initial; -repeat: initial; -attachment: initial; -origin: initial; -clip: initial;"></td><td ="horse-name-column" style="width: 250px; padding-left: 5px; -: initial; -: initial; -size: initial; -repeat: initial; -attachment: initial; -origin: initial; -clip: initial;">Homesman (USA)</td><td ="trainer-column" style="padding-left: 5px; -: initial; -: initial; -size: initial; -repeat: initial; -attachment: initial; -origin: initial; -clip: initial;"> </td><td ="weight-column" style="width: 80px; padding-left: 5px; -: initial; -: initial; -size: initial; -repeat: initial; -attachment: initial; -origin: initial; -clip: initial;"> </td><td ="status-column" style="width: 80px; padding-left: 5px; -: initial; -: initial; -size: initial; -repeat: initial; -attachment: initial; -origin: initial; -clip: initial;"> </td></tr><tr ="EvenRow" style=": rgb255, 255, 255; height: 30px; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.5px;"><td ="silk-column" style="width: 55px; padding-left: 5px; : rgb240, 240, 240;"></td><td ="horse-name-column" style="width: 250px; padding-left: 5px; : rgb240, 240, 240;">Johannes Vermeer (IRE)</td><td ="trainer-column" style="padding-left: 5px; : rgb240, 240, 240;"> </td><td ="weight-column" style="width: 80px; padding-left: 5px; : rgb240, 240, 240;"> </td><td ="status-column" style="width: 80px; padding-left: 5px; : rgb240, 240, 240;"> </td></tr><tr ="OddRow" style=": rgb209, 210, 212; height: 30px; 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<h1 ="first" style="color: rgb5, 60, 114; font-family: arial, verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt; text-trans: uppercase; padding: 0px; : rgb230, 230, 230;">WEIGHTS</h1><div ="interactive-venue-title" style="margin-top: 15px; width: 963px; color: rgb255, 255, 255; font-family: arial, verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; : rgb0, 111, 192; font-weight: bold; padding: 9px;">[URL=http://www.racingaustralia.horse/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2018Mar03,VIC,Flemington]Flemington: Victoria Racing Club <span ="race-venue-date" style="font-size: 14pt; margin-top: 10px; padding: 0px;]Saturday 03, March 2018 | View race field</span>[/URL]<table ="interactive-race-title" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" width="750" style="margin: 4px 0px 0px; width: 981px; color: rgb0, 0, 0; font-family: arial, verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12.6667px; : rgb230, 230, 230;"><t><tr><th style="color: rgb255, 255, 255; text-align: left; font-size: 10pt; : rgb51, 51, 51; border-left: 4px solid rgb51, 51, 51;">Race 3 - Australian Guineas (1600 METRES)</th></tr></t></table><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="3" ="horse-last-start" style="width: 980px; color: rgb0, 0, 0; font-family: arial, verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12.6667px; : rgb230, 230, 230;"><t><tr><th style="text-align: left; font-size: 10pt; : rgb153, 153, 153;"> Colours</th><th style="text-align: left; font-size: 10pt; : rgb153, 153, 153;">Horse Name</th><th style="text-align: left; font-size: 10pt; : rgb153, 153, 153;"></th><th style="text-align: left; font-size: 10pt; : rgb153, 153, 153;">Weight</th><th style="text-align: left; font-size: 10pt; : rgb153, 153, 153;"></th></tr><tr ="OddRow" style=": rgb209, 210, 212; height: 30px; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.5px;"><td ="silk-column" style="width: 55px; padding-left: 5px; -: initial; -: initial; -size: initial; -repeat: initial; -attachment: initial; -origin: initial; -clip: initial;"></td><td ="horse-name-column" style="width: 250px; padding-left: 5px; -: initial; -: initial; -size: initial; -repeat: initial; -attachment: initial; -origin: initial; -clip: initial;">Elgin (NZ)</td><td ="trainer-column" style="padding-left: 5px; -: initial; -: initial; -size: initial; -repeat: initial; -attachment: initial; -origin: initial; -clip: initial;"> </td><td ="weight-column" style="width: 80px; padding-left: 5px; -: initial; -: initial; -size: initial; -repeat: initial; -attachment: initial; -origin: initial; -clip: initial;">56.5kg</td></tr></t></table>


My guess, Almandin and Aloft will run in the Peter Young Stakes in 2 weeks then the Australian Cup, The Taj Mahal and Rekindling will run in the Blamey and spell for the sring, Johannes Vermeer I reckon he'll run in the Queen Elizabeth. Maybe he goes to the Aus Cup with the other two then either BMW or Ranvet on his way.
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Only a few weeks ago, the stable advised media outlets that Rekindling would be aimed at the Sydney Cup, via either the Aust Cup or Tancred Stks.
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Acceptances

Caulfield: Melbourne Racing Club Saturday 24, February 2018 | View race field


Race 1 - 12:30PM Ladbrokes Mornington Cup Prelude (2000 METRES)



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Weight

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1. Almandin (GER) (2) Damien Oliver 60kg Racing
2. Homesman (USA) (9) Ben Melham 56.5kg Racing


Race 9 - 5:25PM Carlton Draught Peter Young Stakes (1800 METRES)



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Weight

Status

8. The Taj Mahal (IRE) (10) Ben Melham 58.5kg Racing
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After one race what is Liam Howley's strikerate ?


STRIKE WHILST THE IRON IS HOT

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Should put the cue in the rack.LOL
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It's a great gig surely.
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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

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Only better start would be if HOMESMAN & ALMANDIN had dead heated
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Whoa, let's not forget, Lloyd is the head trainer, Liam only the trainer....Lloyd's words, on record.
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Yep we all know the setup. Nick does admin etc?, Lloyd decides races and routines, Liam follows orders. Beautiful spot to train, minimal stress, decent folk, probably decent reward, no worries about funds for feed vets etc, good learning experience. Without actually knowing, it sounds like a great job for a horseman/woman. 
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So what is his actual strike rate ?

2 runners in the race, Is he 100% or 50% ?


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Who is Liam? Never seen him, what does he look like?
Just trained his first winner with his first runner in a listed race, and the ‘media gag’ meant that he was not allowed to be interviewed. Instead they had that big fat slob who lives off Daddy’s Visa
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SRs are per horse not race djebel but given the rarity of deadheats we can give him 2/2 at this point LOL
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Graeme Rogerson (Roggie) has bought 5 horses off Lloyd, with intensions of winning a M Cup.

Gallante

Assign

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My Bantry Bay

Surrey


Good Luck Roggie
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What's everyone's opinion on Harrison's chances of winning the 2nd at Flemington on saturday?

$14 available with a Boost. Stable in form. Ben Melham riding. Won at the distance.

Looks like good odds.
I started with nothing and still have most of it left
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Originally posted by scamanda scamanda wrote:

What's everyone's opinion on Harrison's chances of winning the 2nd at Flemington on saturday?

$14 available with a Boost. Stable in form. Ben Melham riding. Won at the distance.

Looks like good odds.


The horse needs the boost , not the Punter.

    Thought I would play with the No 7 ... Williams ride .

I've had the practice so an expert on this one..     Wouldn't be the first one Craig has thrown a leg over either.   GET ON Scamanda , a special.




























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Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

Originally posted by scamanda scamanda wrote:

What's everyone's opinion on Harrison's chances of winning the 2nd at Flemington on saturday?

$14 available with a Boost. Stable in form. Ben Melham riding. Won at the distance.

Looks like good odds.


The horse needs the boost , not the Punter.

    Thought I would play with the No 7 ... Williams ride .

I've had the practice so an expert on this one..     Wouldn't be the first one Craig has thrown a leg over either.   GET ON Scamanda , a special.


Or maybe you can give your WILLI WILLI a rest for a while.

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Originally posted by scamanda scamanda wrote:

Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

Originally posted by scamanda scamanda wrote:

What's everyone's opinion on Harrison's chances of winning the 2nd at Flemington on saturday?

$14 available with a Boost. Stable in form. Ben Melham riding. Won at the distance.

Looks like good odds.


The horse needs the boost , not the Punter.

    Thought I would play with the No 7 ... Williams ride .

I've had the practice so an expert on this one..     Wouldn't be the first one Craig has thrown a leg over either.   GET ON Scamanda , a special.



Or maybe you can give your WILLI WILLI a rest for a while.



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Like trying to find a needle in a haystack with this mob Scamanda, running over 4000mts in G1s and he's rated an 86, been off the scene for a while, one thing I'm certain of that's your guess will be better than mine , wonder if he's been bought as a chopping block for his nice ones in trackwork, over to you my friend.
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Graeme Rogerson has his eye on training a second Melbourne Cup winner after securing a deal to buy ready-made stayers.
The New Zealand Racing Hall of Fame trainer has negotiated a deal to purchase five proven gallopers from leading owner Lloyd Williams, the majority owner of Rogerson's New Zealand-bred 2007 Melbourne Cup winner Efficient.

Among them is dual Group 1 winner Gallante, a winner of more than $2 million from just 20 starts.

The seven-year-old Montjeu gelding holds a nomination for next month's $2m Sydney Cup (3200m) at Randwick, a race he won in 2016, though Rogerson was cautious about tackling the April 14 feature.

"He's a proven mud runner. He's unbeaten on wet tracks. We might kick him off at Awapuni on the 31st (March) and then think about whether we go to the Sydney Cup or not," Rogerson said in reference to the G2 Awapuni Gold Cup (2000m), a race in which Gallante would carry just 55kg under set-weights-and-penalties conditions.

The other four horses that will join Rogerson and his training partners - wife Debbie and granddaughter Bailey - are G2 Herbert Power Stakes winner Assign, two-win galloper Pattern, Galileo six-year-old gelding My Bantry Bay and Surrey, an unraced five-year-old son of High Chaparral and three-time Melbourne Cup winner Makybe Diva.

"Makybe Diva didn't win until she was four so we think this horse might have just needed time as well," Rogerson said.

"Assign has only had 20 starts and was fourth to Winx in the Turnbull last spring. He's won a Herbert Power. My Bantry Bay is a beautiful big horse and Lloyd said he's always liked him, but he's had a few feet problems along the way."

Gallante and Assign have already contested three Melbourne Cups between them and Rogerson believes each of his purchases can prosper with the change of environment in New Zealand.

"We flew to Melbourne last Monday and spent the day with Lloyd at Mount Macedon," he said. "We've bought five horses off Lloyd and we think this will be a great lift for New Zealand racing.

"We've got a couple of genuine Melbourne Cup hopes among them. We're sure these horses will only help our staying ranks. Our Oaks and Derby horses are strong, but our older staying horses are a bit thin on the ground."

All five horses arrived in New Zealand on Thursday and Rogerson has already sold four of the six shares he is offering in the partnership.

"I've put a partnership together," he said. "I didn't want to split the five horses up because this way it covers the risk for shareholders if one or two of them don't come up."
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Originally posted by Carioca Carioca wrote:

Like trying to find a needle in a haystack with this mob Scamanda, running over 4000mts in G1s and he's rated an 86, been off the scene for a while, one thing I'm certain of that's your guess will be better than mine , wonder if he's been bought as a chopping block for his nice ones in trackwork, over to you my friend.

I'd be pretty sure that 4000m barrier trial was to get him fit for the race tomorrow Carioca. 9 month to  'freshen' him then hit the ground running.Big smile
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Andrew Bensley @AndrewBensley 11m11 minutes ago

Owner Lloyd Williams is weighing up whether to run Almandin in Sydney Autumn. At this stage thinking runs in the Group One Tancred Stakes @rosehillgardens on March 31.

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Mad not to. In form, can stay, only question is the wet tracks.
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Find Williams' comment surprising.  Why wouldn't Almandin be running in Sydney?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Carioca Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Mar 2018 at 5:51pm
He'll run imo, probably weighting up the o/s raiders (if any) all his other imported hopes have their feet up waiting for spring to be sprung, could a nice race for Ace High btw.
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All I know is not to take early odds on anything from that stable. Looks like it’s going to be a pretty thin race. The Oz Cup horses and I can’t see anything in Sydney 2400 WFA. Looks the perfect race for him but I’ll believe it when I see it.
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$1.50 7.29am race day scratching
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