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Originally posted by Sworn Revenge Sworn Revenge wrote:

A big night for the stallion and Armidale Stud this evening. Think with the new Tasbred scheme linking Super Vobis we will see more of his progeny coming to Vic

Great news last night. Be very interesting to see how many make the trip over the water after todays sale
Sh'Bourne Star - racingSh'Bourne Dynasty - 2 weeks into next prep .sh'Bourne riverman- 2 months off with hoof bruising sh'bourne rebel - shinny. sh'bourne Attila - spelling after breaking.
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Originally posted by Sworn Revenge Sworn Revenge wrote:

A big night for the stallion and Armidale Stud this evening. Think with the new Tasbred scheme linking Super Vobis we will see more of his progeny coming to Vic

Great news last night. Be very interesting to see how many make the trip over the water after todays sale


Average way up and a lot more buyers this year than last. A fair number of Needs Furthers were bought by Vic trainers
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2Post Sale Update1st TRC (Hobart) Rosevears Hotel Alexandra 2YO P.
1st TTC (Launceston) Alfa 2YO Bowl
Half-Sister to Leodoro (2011.g. by Jayemzed-White Gold, by Colombia-LAnello).
1st Sale TC Viatek H.
3rd Pakenham RC John Duff and Co H.
3rd VRC (Flemington) Njt20cricket.com.au H.

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1Armidale Stud, Carrick, Tas (As Agent)BrownFNeeds Further (AUS)White Gold (NZ)YesRoss WilkinsonVIC$55,000Yearling
5Lot 51Armidale Stud, Carrick, Tas (As Agent)BayCNeeds Further (AUS)Wiora Terricks (AUS)YesPsd $24,000 Res $25,000Make an offerYearling
10Lot 101Armidale Stud, Carrick, TasBayCNeeds Further (AUS)Abbadena (AUS)YesJeffrey ChuggTAS$36,000Yearling
15Lot 15Post Sale Update1st Port Macquarie RC Carlton Draught H.
3rd ATC (Rosehill) TAB Highway H.
Half-Brother to Karmonaaron (2014.g. by Dane Shadow-Backwhereibelong, by Belong to Me-Better Watch Out).
1st Cranbourne TC Zaparas Lawyers Maiden P.
2nd Geelong RC Briseis Club H.
3rd Kilmore TC North Central Review Maiden P.

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1Armidale Stud, Carrick, TasBayCNeeds Further (AUS)Backwhereibelong (AUS)YesJohn BlackerTAS$26,000Yearling
20Lot 20Post Sale UpdateWyuna (2013.f. by Tough Speed-Schoolies, by Royal Academy-Martelomeo).
1st TRC (Hobart) Trchobart.com.au P.

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1Armidale Stud, Carrick, TasChestnutFNeeds Further (AUS)Buzzing Along (AUS)YesStar ThoroughbredsNSW$61,000Yearling
23Lot 231B & B Douglas, Staverton, TasBayFNeeds Further (AUS)Canny Cross (AUS)YesPsd $5,000 Res $10,000Make an offerYearling
451Macleay Thoroughbred Stud, Westwood, TasBayFNeeds Further (AUS)Finella (AUS)YesAdam TrinderTAS$10,000Yearling
621Motree Thoroughbreds, Waterhouse, Tas (As Agent)BayCNeeds Further (AUS)Joey Jo Jo (AUS)YesPsd $3,000 Res $5,000Make an offerYearling
64Lot 641M & N Norman & K Boyer, Cygnet, TasBayFNeeds Further (AUS)Lady of Gold (AUS)YesPsd $2,000 Res $5,000Make an offerYearling
711Grenville Stud, Whitemore, TasBayCNeeds Further (AUS)Mascarene (AUS)YesMcShane HillTAS$9,000Yearling
80Lot 80Post Sale Update2nd ATC (Rosehill) Fresh for Kids H.
3rd ATC (Randwick) Rebecca Louise H.
Half-Brother to Baradine Bound (2012.g. by Starcraft-Nonsensical, by Hussonet-Missing Logic).
3rd Port Macquarie RC Valentines Party H.

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1Armidale Stud, Carrick, TasBayCNeeds Further (AUS)Nonsensical (AUS)YesMatthew BrownVIC$40,000Yearling
82Lot 82Post Sale Update1st TTC (Launceston) Alfa 2YO Bowl
1st TRC (Hobart) Rosevears Hotel Alexandra 2YO P.
Out of a sibling to Leodoro (2011.g. by Jayemzed-White Gold, by Colombia-LAnello).
1st Sale TC Viatek H.

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1Armidale Stud, Carrick, Tas (As Agent)BayFNeeds Further (AUS)Oh So Gold (AUS)YesWayne RoserTAS$28,000Yearling
89Lot 89Post Sale Update1st Gawler and Barossa JC Terrace Function Centre H.
1st Horsham Tyre and Battery H.
1st Penola RC Joannes Espresso Express H.
From the same family as MATCHBREAKER (2014.g. by Makfi-Pineau, by Carnegie-Dopff).
1st Levin RC Wellington S. Gr.3
From the same family as Savvy Dreams (2013.f. by Savabeel-Elusive Dreams, by Elusive City-Dopff).
1st Hawkes Bay Best Travel H.
4th WRC Thorndon Mile Gr.1
From the same family as Travimyfriend (2012.g. by Tavistock-Pineau, by Carnegie-Dopff).
3rd WRC Anniversary S. Gr.3
3rd Taranaki Cup Gr.3
From the same family as Caricature (2014.f. by Power-Octapussy, by Octagonal-Dopff).
1st Matamata RC Stables Books Maiden S.
2nd Taranaki RC Oaks Prelude L
From the same family as CELEBRITY DREAM (2012.f. by Thorn Park-Valpolicella, by Red Ransom-Our Riesling).
1st WATC (Ascot) Starstruck Classic L
1st WATC (Ascot) Jungle Dawn Clas

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1B & B Douglas, Staverton, TasChestnutFNeeds Further (AUS)Prickle Bush (NZ)YesGaladi Holdings Pty LtdVIC$20,000Yearling
96Lot 961Armidale Stud, Carrick, Tas (As Agent)ChestnutFNeeds Further (AUS)Remember Them (AUS)YesAusty CoffeyVIC$42,000Yearling
116Lot 1161B & B Douglas, Staverton, TasBayCNeeds Further (AUS)Stacy Ann (AUS)YesGordon Richards RacingSA$9,000Yearling
117Post Sale Update1st TTC (Launceston) Autobarn Maiden P.
1st Devonport RC Joe Mason Memorial P.
2nd TTC (Launceston) Go Racing Tasmania Maiden P.
2nd TTC (Launceston) Longford Cup New Years Day Maiden P.

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1Motree Thoroughbreds, Waterhouse, Tas (As Agent)BayFNeeds Further (AUS)Star Hit (AUS)YesPsd $8,000 Res $10,000Make an offerYearling
118Lot 1181Armidale Stud, Carrick, TasChestnutCNeeds Further (AUS)Striking Bride (AUS)YesLogan McGill RacingVIC$32,000Yearling
119Lot 1191Armidale Stud, Carrick, Tas (As Agent)ChestnutCNeeds Further (AUS)Sunny Skies (AUS)YesDean LarssonVIC$10,000Yearling
124Lot 1241Armidale Stud, Carrick, Tas (As Agent)BayFNeeds Further (AUS)Testamarriage (AUS)YesKennewell Racing Pty LtdSA$51,000Yearling
125Lot 1251Armidale Stud, Carrick, Tas (As Agent)BayFNeeds Further (AUS)This Moment (AUS)YesGraebar ParkVIC$35,000Yearling
130Lot 130Post Sale Update3rd TTC (Launceston) Alfa 2YO Bowl

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1Armidale Stud, Carrick, TasBay or BrownFNeeds Further (AUS)Tycoon Sali (AUS)YesPrime ThoroughbredsVIC$95,000Yearling
131Lot 131Post Sale Update1st TTC (Launceston) Dollys Dream H.
1st TTC (Launceston) Electro Rewinds H.
3rd TTC (Launceston) Carrick P.

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1Armidale Stud, Carrick, Tas (As Agent)ChestnutFNeeds Further (AUS)Use the Gate (AUS)YesJohn BlackerTAS$26,000Year
Sh'Bourne Star - racingSh'Bourne Dynasty - 2 weeks into next prep .sh'Bourne riverman- 2 months off with hoof bruising sh'bourne rebel - shinny. sh'bourne Attila - spelling after breaking.
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Dunno what happened there.

7 to Victoria and one to NSW. 

22 offered 17 sold 
$585 grand total sales
$95 grand top price 
$34412 average off $3300 service fee


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Originally posted by furious furious wrote:

Quite like the pedigrees of the other two Needs Further int he race so hopefully they can also win in the future.<div id="UMS_TOOLTIP" style=": ; cursor: pointer; : 2147483647; : transparent; top: -100000px; left: -100000pyx;">

Right on the mark there Furious
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Needs Further went well at the two year old trials.

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Devonport Synthetic - 08/05/2018
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1 Diesel Dan - M S Trinder (2g Needs Further x Sensationalize) MM Tasmanian PI
2 Flourishing Future - J L Keys (2f Needs Further x Starred)
3 Appraise - J K Blacker (2g Needs Further x Phyl's Choice) MM Tasmanian $90,000
Heat 3
1 Triple Strip - J K Blacker (2f Needs Further x Short 'n' Sweep) MM Tasmanian $30,000
Longford - 01/05/2018
Heat 2
1 Honky Tonk Girl - J K Blacker (2f Needs Further x Striking Bride)
2 Flourishing Future - J L Keys (2f Needs Further x Starred)
3 Diesel Dan - M S Trinder (2g Needs Further x Sensationalize) MM Tasmanian PI
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Bet Tassie breeders are rubbing their hands with glee to slip him into the state. 
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definately are A.A. Got two fillies at home and another over at Armidale which will go through the sale. looking forward to sending a couple of mares there again this season. 
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This horse reminds me of Centaine who off an average race record got sold to New Zealand.  But Centaine had an above average pedigree and he fired at stud.  Who knows why some can do this and others can't.  The studs who get them might just appreciate them so much that they get a better chance than in the mainstream.  Anyway good luck to Tassy with this boy.  He has a superior pedigree and hopefully that will continue to throw winners for them.
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i hope you are right Furious. it would be great for the Tasmanian Industry. Stuart Gandy has sent over Our Long Sali to Morphetville for Prime Thoroughbreds. not the best barrier but anyhow with Dwayne Dunn on she will be given every chance. 


Race 4 - 2:06PM UBET SA Sires' Produce Stakes (Morphettville Parks Track) (1400 METRES)Times displayed in local time of Race Meeting
Of $175,000.1st $112,000, 2nd $29,750, 3rd $14,000, 4th $7,000, 5th $3,500, 6th $1,750, 7th $1,750, 8th $1,750, 9th $1,750, 10th $1,750
Starter Subsidy $250. GROUP 3
Set Weights, Two-Years-Old, Apprentices cannot claim.
This race carries a SABOIS Breeders Super Bonus for qualified horses

Track Name: Parks Track Type: Turf 

Field Limit: 14 + 4 EM

NoLast 10HorseTrainerJockeyBarrierWeightPenaltyHcp Rating
137x111TEQUILA TIMESABIS Bonus Scheme Breeder Paid OnlyLeon Macdonald & Andrew Gluyas857.5kg75
2851VASSILATOR (NZ)Colin LittleJason Holder1257.5kg69
344x214SECRET BLAZETony McEvoyLuke Currie1357.5kg67
41x4FAROOQTony McEvoyJamie Kah757.5kg62
583STAR STATUSLeon Macdonald & Andrew Gluyas357.5kg58
66x4BRITISH MEDIUMMick PriceDamien Oliver1157.5kg58
77ICE GHOSTGordon RichardsRyan Hurdle557.5kg58
82x112FUNDAMENTALISTDavid & B Hayes & T DabernigAndrew Mallyon1455.5kg73
931611OUR LONG SALIStuart GandyDwayne Dunn1055.5kg69
103x61GODODDINJames CummingsDamian Lane1555.5kg65
11210x35AL NAIFATony McEvoyStephen Baster155.5kg64
1233PERSUADERMick PriceMichael Walker255.5kg64
1342x3MISS HELLBENDERArchie AlexanderDeclan Bates455.5kg63
146x427HAVANA HEATLloyd KennewellJoe Bowditch955.5kg60
15e5x6539SIR GARFIELDSABOIS Bonus SchemeGordon RichardsHarry Coffey657.5kg55
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good luck I'm kind of hoping for Tequila TIme as I've followed her from the sales.  He's out of an Encosta mare by your tassy one is by an Encosta stallion.
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Yes its a big ask for OLS Furious but it would be great for down here. all the best with your selection. 
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It would be a shame if Stuart Gandy loses her to Patrick Payne which has been muted if she goes well and they take her up to QLD. Done a good job.

For the record Slowdown my Ned colt is in the weanling paddock at Armidale. Take a look next time you are in the area. Going to take time as he's a big boy!!!!

Appraise is the top seller from MM TAS 2 years ago when we caught up at Launceston. Got a good engine according to trainer but green as grass mentally. Newitt an interesting booking and has ridden him twice now in trials
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Sworn I have heard the same thing but at this point he is still down under Stui. I hope for Stui that he does stay but it doesn't always go that way. Stuart is a top hand and I have no doubt with the horse or not he will make his mark in this industry. I hope to catch up with Armidale shortly and have a look at our filly so I will ask to have a look at your boy at the same time. he certainly gives a mixed bag . our older filly here is a bit small so we are giving her time yet the younger one one Umagold is big and very strong but balanced. anyhow they are going very well and credit must be given to Armidale as it looks like they have gotten it right again.

Craig has been riding a lot for John and why not as John is getting plenty of winners. I will continue to keep an eye out on Appraise. Cheers Slowdown
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Out of interest Slowdown whom in your opinion is the best trainer in Tas. Statistically it would appear to be the Bruntons but interested in your thoughts taking into account numbers, best facilities, up and coming horsemen etc. With the Liberal Gov money chucked into Tasbred it's going to be pretty viable to race horses on the island
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i will pm that one. very small industry down here....
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Race 3 - 1:40PM Meander Valley Council Tasmanian Sires Produce (1400 METRES)Times displayed in local time of Race Meeting
Of $50,000.1st $30,250, 2nd $9,000, 3rd $4,500, 4th $2,250, 5th $1,000, 6th $1,000, 7th $1,000, 8th $1,000
Set Weights plus Penalties, Two-Years-Old, Apprentices cannot claim.
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Track Name: Main Track Type: Turf Track Condition: Soft 6 Time: 1:25.48 Last 800m: 0:46.21 Timing Method: Electronic

ColorFinishNo.HorseTrainerJockeyMarginBar.WeightPenaltyStarting Price
15TRIPLE STRIPtasBonus Bonus SchemeJohn BlackerCraig Newitt155kg$2.20F
21TIESTOtasBonus Bonus SchemeKen & Tanya HansonJason Maskiell2.25L559kg$2.80
32GEE GEE MR PAULtasBonus Bonus SchemeStuart GandyMs Georgie Catania2.75L257kg$7.50
44CAESAR’S QUESTtasBonus Bonus SchemeAdam TrinderAnthony Darmanin4.5L456kg$6.50
56BONDUEL LILYtasBonus Bonus SchemeTerence EvansTroy Baker7.5L654kg$81
63GEE GEES WILD ONEtasBonus Bonus SchemeStuart GandyMs Sigrid Carr11L357kg$15
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Another good performance from a Needs Further 
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That one of Gandy,s , on Sat, on the mainland, ran a decent race .  Didnt win but not beaten far and didnt stop in the run and was wide a lot. 
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yep ran a nice race from a poor barrier. great to see.
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If I owned OLS I wouldn't push on for the 2yo G1 1600 in QLD for which she is nominated. Even allowing for the 3 wide run I reckon 1400 is as far as she wants to go at the moment
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