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    Posted: 24 Jun 2013 at 12:39pm
Two fillies in the Inglis Sales in Sydney, one a weanling the other a yearling.  Both are products of Winning Colours Farm's resident stallion Glacial Gold, who is a (forgive me, I'm not all that knowledgable regarding all things coloured horses, but I believe the term is) Cremello (?).  Both fillies are officially in the studbook as Chestnut, as is the sire.  Will cause a few double takes if/when any of his progeny hit the track.
 
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if that is chestnut i am blind.
geez,,,,i am speechless .
lets hope they can run !
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Have a look at the W C Farm two stallions pages .You would swear the printer was running low on ink (not much black type ).There progeny will be a hit at pony club .
MY farrier said the genetic defect these horses carry should not be introduced into thoroughbreds .As it has caused problems in other breeds .He said he has seen foals born they have no hair and die after a few weeks .
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yeah tongue tie,  its called lethal white,  and they die in a few days,  if they ar not put to sleep first.
if the "mix and match "  is done wrong ,  it can be a nightmare.  literally.
and if these horses are to be in the stud book they should carry a notification against their name, advising the potential of lethal white, if the tests with the mare are not done before breeding.
those 2 fillies dont have much breeding to reccomend them to race. and they look like show ponies.
why oh why would you do that if you wanted to promote your stallion as a race horse stallion ???
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flicking through bloodstock and here's another odd colored stallion
Ellusive Quest (USA) 2000
some of these must have been sneaked into the studbook when the US lost all it's records as europe doesn't have any other than The Tetrarch that i'm aware of

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Hate them, and they should never have been allowed. Its only because they were let into the USA studbook that the stallions were eligble here.

The studbook doesn't recognise dilutes or paints as colours, because a TB is only allowed to be - bay, grey, black, chestnut and white (max sabino), hence why they are registered as chestnut as that is the horses base coat colour before being diluted. A buckskin (also possible from their cremello stallion) would be listed as bay.

The pallys wont carry the overo (lethal white gene) its only the ones by their overo stallion Profile In Style, whos sire is the above picture Ellusive Quest.

The Tetrarch from what im aware is a loud marked sabino, not overo, wich is totally different.

The stud has their colt racehorse "Framed In History" back in training with Sharon Jefferies, hes a sire already, having served one mare as a yearling :/ to wich his foal was coloured. So far in all his runs hes either ran last or near last as a 2yo.

here is his facebook page

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Seems the weanling went to be a dressage/broodie. Unless they race some as well, but I doubt it? Still 11k, much more than I thought it would go for? Wonder who the under bidder was...

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The Tetrarch was a grey, he just happened to have big white spots through his coat. Many of his progeny were also grey, it's as simple as that. These so called ' coloured' thoroughbreds are in fact only 3/4 breds. If you go to the stud book they go back to a non registered horse. I am disgusted that our stud book has let them in and Inglis for selling them, although I guess they'll sell anything as long as they get the commission. I can guarantee one thing....they won't be winning any races!
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Originally posted by Biggles Biggles wrote:

The Tetrarch was a grey, he just happened to have big white spots through his coat. Many of his progeny were also grey, it's as simple as that. These so called ' coloured' thoroughbreds are in fact only 3/4 breds. If you go to the stud book they go back to a non registered horse. I am disgusted that our stud book has let them in and Inglis for selling them, although I guess they'll sell anything as long as they get the commission. I can guarantee one thing....they won't be winning any races!


I am disgusted that our stud book has let them in and Inglis for selling them,

Yes, if you have a look at Glacial Gold and Profile In Style, both are built like paint and QH, wich as nothing shows what Milkie is by in GG pedigree, I bet hes half QH. They've just fudged the pedigree on the American site lol
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Hello,
here in germany started a very colourful 2 yearold his Career as Racehorse. Admittingly he was purchased at auction in France for 12.000 Euros, as his buyer admits as "Fun horse". His name is 'Silvery Moon' (I was framed, ped as Pedigreequery).
He started so far twice, his first race was a 'hopeless case', but in his second race for 2 year old maidens, he was able to get a 2ndplace only a neck beaten.
Of course his usually markings attracts much racegoers. Let's see, how this colt will run in his next races.
 
Btw, the German Studbook officially prints the colourterm 'palomino' in his volumes.
 
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Yes, the british have recently allowed the overos or pintos to be registered as well, and Germany has always allowed them I think?

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Who will want to increase the chances of breeding a slow horse. I think they will fade into oblivion pretty quickly
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Black Type for Paint Thoroughbred
Tara Madgwick - Tuesday, 16 July 2013
Rare paint coloured thoroughbreds have been the subject of some very well read stories on Breednet, so we knew our audience would appreciate this one about a stunning two year-old colt in Germany called Silvery Moon.

Silvery MoonSilvery MoonTrained by Mario Hofer, Silver Moon finished a close second in the Listed Rennen Zweijährigen Trophy at Koln in Germany on Saturday and as you can see in this video, his run was more about how he looked than how he actually ran.

Silvery Moon has now had three starts for two seconds and looks capable of winning a race sooner rather than later.

He has the rare markings of an overo thoroughbred and is dual registered with the The Jockey Club as a thoroughbred and with the American Paint Association.

Foaled in France, Silvery Moon is by the unraced overo sire I Was Framed (USA) from minor winning Alzao mare Artzola.

One of only two coloured thoroughbred stallions in the UK and the first to be recognized as a thoroughbred by Weatherbys, I Was Framed comes from the same sireline as the Australian based overo sire Profile in Style (USA), who stands at Winning Colours Farm.

I Was FramedI Was Framed

Both I Was Framed and Profile in Style are grand-sons of Sonny’s Solo Halo, who is by internationally renowned sire Halo.

http://www.breednet.com.au/news/91497/Black-Type-for-Paint-Thoroughbred
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