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Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:

Originally posted by cabosanlucas cabosanlucas wrote:

Anhs brush with fame isnt too bad a show. but just once he should get the guest to close their eyes and then he turns around his portrait to reveal blobs of paint all mixed together. and say "how do u like it?"

Charlie pickering is up himself, big time. not a fan.



Anh tries a little too hard to illicit tears for my liking. 


his portraits arent that good either. ray martin was good value, interesting story.
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ABC news 24 that's it doesn't move, 1 hour of the BBC at night, half hour in the morn.
If they go to parliament it goes off. Landline for me,a bit of 7.30 , over to CNN , I'm a bit crooked on fox for losing the EPL so I stopped paying for movie ch. didn't go too well,
offsiders if Roy's on, can't handle GW, abc handling of Liverpool match was a disgrace,
that's about it for me apart from this bloody I- pad at my age I should be exercising more.
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Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

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If it's so good, why are taxpayers subsidising it?

Privatise it and make some money.

Set legislation to ensure we retain minimum Australian content, and sell it off!Thumbs Up

Surely SBS can go regardless, it serves no purpose.


We are rightfully warned by Gay to stay civilised, You make it very difficult to do so at times.



What is "uncivilised" about that?

We can't fund education or health care adequately, but the bed wetters have a tantrum if we suggest that the the parasitic socialists at the ABC sheltered workshop and the completely superfluous SBS, are forced off the public tit?Confused



Again, There is nothing civilised about the way you pose that question.




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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

If it's so good, why are taxpayers subsidising it?

Privatise it and make some money.

Set legislation to ensure we retain minimum Australian content, and sell it off!Thumbs Up

Surely SBS can go regardless, it serves no purpose.


We are rightfully warned by Gay to stay civilised, You make it very difficult to do so at times.



What is "uncivilised" about that?

We can't fund education or health care adequately, but the bed wetters have a tantrum if we suggest that the the parasitic socialists at the ABC sheltered workshop and the completely superfluous SBS, are forced off the public tit?Confused



Again, There is nothing civilised about the way you pose that question.




His attitude is simply typical of the rightards in general, they despise anything they can't control and want to destroy anything they can't gain control of.
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Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:

We pay nothing for quality TV, 8 cents a day and it is an essential service. Commercial TV is absolute tripe. Look at 60 Minutes, ACA etc with their Schapelle and Cassie coverage compared to 4 Corners and their greyhound expose and Lindt siege coverage. 
Funny Doc complains about losing our culture in reference to muslims, but fails to see how much culture we would lose with the death of the ABC.

Are you still stuck in Romper Room? ... can't you comprehend plain English? 

When did I suggest the death of the ABC, or ANY of their programming?Confused

... now go back and read my comments again, then write them out a hundred times, and then start again.

8 cents a day = $1.5 Billion a year? ... quite possibly!

Sure you don't know of a welfare program that could use $1.5 Billion a year? ... maybe if it had gone to education when you were at skool I wouldn't need to repeat myself to often!Ermm 
... oh that's right ... it's already paying for the sheltered workshop for unemployable socialist hand wringers - THEIR ABC!!!Clap

Yes, you may well be right, with Q&A and 7:30 and Insiders, etc., it IS an essential service ... for thumb sucking bed wetters!Cry
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Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:

We pay nothing for quality TV, 8 cents a day and it is an essential service. Commercial TV is absolute tripe. Look at 60 Minutes, ACA etc with their Schapelle and Cassie coverage compared to 4 Corners and their greyhound expose and Lindt siege coverage. 
Funny Doc complains about losing our culture in reference to muslims, but fails to see how much culture we would lose with the death of the ABC.

Are you still stuck in Romper Room? ... can't you comprehend plain English? 

When did I suggest the death of the ABC, or ANY of their programming?Confused

... now go back and read my comments again, then write them out a hundred times, and then start again.

8 cents a day = $1.5 Billion a year? ... quite possibly!

Sure you don't know of a welfare program that could use $1.5 Billion a year? ... maybe if it had gone to education when you were at skool I wouldn't need to repeat myself to often!Ermm 
... oh that's right ... it's already paying for the sheltered workshop for unemployable socialist hand wringers - THEIR ABC!!!Clap

Yes, you may well be right, with Q&A and 7:30 and Insiders, etc., it IS an essential service ... for thumb sucking bed wetters!Cry

If you privatise the ABC it will become the muppet of whoever owns it, Whatever agenda they wish to side with.

You may believe the ABC has agendas but the majority of their programming is factual based.




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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:

We pay nothing for quality TV, 8 cents a day and it is an essential service. Commercial TV is absolute tripe. Look at 60 Minutes, ACA etc with their Schapelle and Cassie coverage compared to 4 Corners and their greyhound expose and Lindt siege coverage. 
Funny Doc complains about losing our culture in reference to muslims, but fails to see how much culture we would lose with the death of the ABC.

Are you still stuck in Romper Room? ... can't you comprehend plain English? 

When did I suggest the death of the ABC, or ANY of their programming?Confused

... now go back and read my comments again, then write them out a hundred times, and then start again.

8 cents a day = $1.5 Billion a year? ... quite possibly!

Sure you don't know of a welfare program that could use $1.5 Billion a year? ... maybe if it had gone to education when you were at skool I wouldn't need to repeat myself to often!Ermm 
... oh that's right ... it's already paying for the sheltered workshop for unemployable socialist hand wringers - THEIR ABC!!!Clap

Yes, you may well be right, with Q&A and 7:30 and Insiders, etc., it IS an essential service ... for thumb sucking bed wetters!Cry

If you privatise the ABC it will become the muppet of whoever owns it, Whatever agenda they wish to side with.

You may believe the ABC has agendas but the majority of their programming is factual based.



There are a lot of ways to go about it - I would not imagine anyone taking it on as a singular entity, but each section (and there are a bloody lot) would probably be appropriated by relevant parties, some would survive, and some would not.  

Commercial media people want ratings, pure and simple ... if the programs don't rate, they will be axed, if they are popular, they will!

As I said, it is easy to legislate for minimum Australian produced content, so I would expect that most of the popular programs - even the ones that are biased - would survive in a commercialised ABC, which ever way it is done.

The biggest problem is that ABC is a glaring atypical example of the problem we have with our public services.

For starters, it is unnecessary, and obsolete. It is well and truly overcapitalised and top heavy, and it is overrun with socialists who just live to self perpetuate the welfare mentality within their departments.

As a country, if we got rid of all of the surplus public services, our unemployment rate would be about 30% ... but the budget would be in surplus.
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Alright I know it is a forlorn hope but sitting here watching New Zealand, throw away Kane Williamson's century in England, can we sort of get back to the threads point.

Apparently the ABC is full of bed wetters and socialists, so can someone please tell me what makes a bed wetter and a socialist in this specific instance.

Now if you use Tony Jones as an example then I am all with you, a guy who was looking a for a retirement package (you know what I am talking about like the old former champ footballer who moves from his junior club for one last contract to get some coin before his physical capabilities fail)and who thinks his shyte does not stink. he is a poor host/presenter anyway.

Leigh Sales thinks she is the best interviewer going around (if you call interrupting and trying to scream over people interviewing then she is your gal)even though she was parachuted into the stations prime show.

But I am looking for examples of bias. Now the ABC have been reporting about Manaus Island. That reporting is bordering on bias, so there is one example you could use, however the government is not helping by keeping people in detention for years, instead of months at the most.

The ABC do not have a leaning when reporting politics. I have seen them get stuck into the coalition and also get stuck into the Kevin/Julia governments, and labor party.

Whenever I have watched Media Watch, their reports have been accurate. Now just because they select Jones and Hadley and Bolt every week, that does not make what they are reporting untrue. If those guys do not want to be on the show, then guess what, don't say lets take the prime minister out in a sack to the middle of the ocean and throw her overboard. We all know Julia was a shocking PM so just attack her in a more intelligent manner.

The ABC have got some great content. I love Media Watch, Landline and Four Corners. They were the station who stepped in and saved Clarke and Dawe when no commercial channel even wanted it. Rake is one of the best written comedies of recent times. If you haven't caught Cleverman, then Check the second series out from July and Gruen is a very informative show.

Some of the stations comedy is a bit off putting to me. Not sure how Chris Lilley is so revered, Charles Pickering is a bit hit and miss but Channel ten wanted to keep him so he is a wanted commercial host and some of their dramas like The Blake Mysteries and Miss Fisher are well produced, not my cup of tea but the talent on show is evident.

They produce great documentaries. Sports Nation is one of the best documentary series ever made, The Track a series about horse racing is a cracker, the Cricket series of documentaries tells the tale of Australian cricket very well, and their music documentaries, especially the one about Alberts music and Countdown were outstanding.

So is the ABC biased, or are they balancing the debate on issues by countering mainstream medias slanted point of view? Because just like Micheal Moore's documentaries if you are bombarded with one view on an issue, and then the ABC come along with a differing view, which is the backed up by evidence, then that is not bias, that is setting the record straight.

Suppose someone will call me a bed wetter now! If you do want to call me a bed wetter, then that is fine, but you need to tell me why I am a bed wetter. Okay all this bed wetting has got me wanting to visit the little boys room and believe me it is a little boys room!       
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Hey Voyager ... bloody rain! 

I've made my position on the ABC and SBS clear, it's not about the bias, perceived or otherwise, as I said, it's not like it is an essential service that nobody else is prepared to supply at a reasonable cost. More importantly, I see that they are now spending taxpayer money to attract online views, by engaging services that move them to the top of google searches ... that is simply hurting independent businesses, and the Public funded broadcaster has an unfair advantage.

Yes there are glaring examples of left wing biased news and current affairs programs, and even comedy, but that is also the case in commercial media ... but that is more about the nature of the majority of "journalists" and their producers (don't forget, THEY are the ones who determine what goes to air) who are invariably products of our socialist Universities.

PT has a favourite saying about renewable energy - the market will decide - if the ABC was privatised, the market would decide which programs survived and which didn't - no viewers and you are gooooone, axed ... get good ratings, and you will be renewed ...like those brain dead reality shows that infest commercial TV these days ... Good Grief!

The biggest concern would be losing some very good Aussie produced dramas, less so the comedies and the news.However, we have strong media rules that ensure minimum programming requirements around content, and it would simply be a matter of making sure that those rules were adequate, and adhered to.

At the end of the day, everyone can IQ or record their favoured programs in some fashion, so i don't see a problem.

Agree with you on Dr Blake (Craig McLachlan! ... 25 years ago, who'd have thought!?) and a lot of the other stuff is very good quality. Disagree sabot Chris Lilly - genius!

Cut Corners is really no better than any other commercial current affairs programs - they have done some excellent stuff (they all have their good moments), but what they did with Dondale was unforgivable. You have gotta give them credit, they sucked a lot of people in, and they perpetuated a myth, and cost us a lot of money on a pointless wild goose chase with the knee jerk RC, to investigate stuff they reported on ... that had already been investigated! ... anyway, they have kept a lot of their Public Service Comrades in work, along with a lot of lawyers and a few aboriginal Elders who collectively never knock back a chance to get their snouts in the trough - the predictable outcome of course, will again be a "pineapple"!  

Sorry, again, funding something like this is a cruel joke on tax payers.

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Cut Corners is really no better than any other commercial current affairs programsWacko
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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

<span style=": rgb251, 251, 253;">Cut Corners is really no better than any other commercial current affairs programsWacko</span>


When did they last have a show tell you the best washing up detergent to use as the other shows do on a regular basis ?
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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:

We pay nothing for quality TV, 8 cents a day and it is an essential service. Commercial TV is absolute tripe. Look at 60 Minutes, ACA etc with their Schapelle and Cassie coverage compared to 4 Corners and their greyhound expose and Lindt siege coverage. 
Funny Doc complains about losing our culture in reference to muslims, but fails to see how much culture we would lose with the death of the ABC.

Are you still stuck in Romper Room? ... can't you comprehend plain English? 

When did I suggest the death of the ABC, or ANY of their programming?Confused

... now go back and read my comments again, then write them out a hundred times, and then start again.

8 cents a day = $1.5 Billion a year? ... quite possibly!

Sure you don't know of a welfare program that could use $1.5 Billion a year? ... maybe if it had gone to education when you were at skool I wouldn't need to repeat myself to often!Ermm 
... oh that's right ... it's already paying for the sheltered workshop for unemployable socialist hand wringers - THEIR ABC!!!Clap

Yes, you may well be right, with Q&A and 7:30 and Insiders, etc., it IS an essential service ... for thumb sucking bed wetters!Cry

If you privatise the ABC it will become the muppet of whoever owns it, Whatever agenda they wish to side with.

You may believe the ABC has agendas but the majority of their programming is factual based.




The right dont deal in facts, Djebel. Unfortunately ruins all their arguments, hence they prefer a fact-free existence. Makes life easier.
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Cut Corners is really no better than any other commercial current affairs programsWacko


Which is why the Doc should never be taken seriously.
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The deranged hand wringers would never get out of their drenched beds if the ABC didn't tell them what their opinion was going to be that day ... just sayin'LOL
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Diebel:-      That is a sickening read .

My first & only response is the World has deteriorated into one huge Psychiatric Centre and rapidly worsening.
If you get a cage full of budgerigars & allow them to in breed indiscriminately ,   they will quickly lose the ability to function or to even fly.
The human race is no different really & this push for Gay marriage is further evidence of us heading down the similar path.
When this earth has only cock roaches ( that's males ) I forget what they call the female roaches,   only then , will stability return.
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Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

The deranged hand wringers would never get out of their drenched beds if the ABC didn't tell them what their opinion was going to be that day ... just sayin'LOL


Or van badham, mike carlton or jane caro
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Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

Diebel:-      That is a sickening read .

My first & only response is the World has deteriorated into one huge Psychiatric Centre and rapidly worsening.
If you get a cage full of budgerigars & allow them to in breed indiscriminately ,   they will quickly lose the ability to function or to even fly.
The human race is no different really & this push for Gay marriage is further evidence of us heading down the similar path.
When this earth has only cock roaches ( that's males ) I forget what they call the female roaches,   only then , will stability return.
( Whale won't get that one )


"The world has descended into one huge psychiatric center"

- not too far off the mark macca.
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People lose their tiny minds over religion, The sooner we are an athiest society the better


So you were just telling more lies when you said religion has been good for peoples moral guidance?

do you hold the world record for number of times an atheist has quoted the bible?

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People lose their tiny minds over religion, The sooner we are an athiest society the better


How right you are .      We would be half way there .
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Nope, moral guidance is great, the Magna Carta, US constitution are based on the bible, but when you lose perspective and let it lead your life rather than leading your life with it as a guide, it becomes a destructive force 
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Nope, moral guidance is great, the Magna Carta, US constitution are based on the bible, but when you lose perspective and let it lead your life rather than leading your life with it as a guide, it becomes a destructive force 


Oh, you are talking about islam.

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Nope, moral guidance is great, the Magna Carta, US constitution are based on the bible, but when you lose perspective and let it lead your life rather than leading your life with it as a guide, it becomes a destructive force 


Moral Guidance PT. ???

     When the main concern for our elected representatives appears to be Gay marriage equality. ?
    
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Originally posted by cabosanlucas cabosanlucas wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

People lose their tiny minds over religion, The sooner we are an athiest society the better


So you were just telling more lies when you said religion has been good for peoples moral guidance?

do you hold the world record for number of times an atheist has quoted the bible?



Do you hold the record for number of times a Catholic has mentioned Islam?
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Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:

Originally posted by cabosanlucas cabosanlucas wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

People lose their tiny minds over religion, The sooner we are an athiest society the better


So you were just telling more lies when you said religion has been good for peoples moral guidance?

do you hold the world record for number of times an atheist has quoted the bible?



Do you hold the record for number of times a Catholic has mentioned Islam?

mind numbing, isn't it cabo ...Stern Smile
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Ridiculous isn't it Doc? cabo is only a pretender. You have him well coveredThumbs Up
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

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Speaking of the political spectrum and agenda's or bias ....

has their been a newspaper that has lurched so far left in a short space of time as the SMH?
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Originally posted by cabosanlucas cabosanlucas wrote:

Speaking of the political spectrum and agenda's or bias ....

has their been a newspaper that has lurched so far left in a short space of time as the SMH?


You cant be serious here?? Murdoch rags have nosedived hard right and towards the gutter. 
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