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    Posted: 29 Aug 2013 at 6:58pm
Does anyone know much about these guys? A pal of mine from UK was telling me they buy the big money yearlings in Europe for the last five or so years and saying to me they must be massive in Australia? I'd never heard of them but did a google search and they have a farm in Moss Vale with a $27million dollar stable complex! It also seems they have horses with Joe Pride, Peter Moody and Guy Walter?
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Paul Fudge. Made a few dollars in business. Buys globally but does most of his own buying
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Had a unraced US import trial at Randwick this morning for Graham Begg - New Shaker.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/turf-thoroughbreds/waratahs-7m-french-accent/story-fnajufri-1226213585884

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=Waratah+Thoroughbreds&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&gws_rd=cr&ei=xDEtUpjIGcSCiQeew4CoDQ
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who is their best horsein work now?
 
I know they had a heap of broodmares, hence the limited exposure
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Waratah Thoroughbreds had a horse called SIR JOHN HAWKWOOD trial today over 1550m at Cranbourne. 

He won the trial with Craig Williams aboard.   He had won 2 of his 3 previous starts over 2100m & 2400 at Chester & York respectively.  His last start in England was 7th in the Hardwicke Stks behind the ill-fated Thomas Chippendale & the highly touted Dandino.

He's a nicely bred gelding by Sir Percy (an Epsom Derby winner)..........maybe a sleeper for the Cups??
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Filter by Sale  August Yearling Sale
 2013		Filter by Prod.  Yearling 
 M.		2012ALL WELL 
Lot 91		Filter by Sire  DANSILI 
 WELL SPOKEN		Filter by Vendor  HotellerieFilter by Outcome  SoldFilter by Buyer  WARATAH..460 000 €
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 ZARKAVEAN		Filter by Vendor  Oakgrove..Filter by Outcome  SoldFilter by Buyer  WARATAH..160 000 €
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 M.		2011MAURUS 
Lot 73		Filter by Sire  MEDICEAN 
 SHASTYE		Filter by Vendor  Newsells..Filter by Outcome  SoldFilter by Buyer  WARATAH..320 000 €
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 FEATHERQUES..		Filter by Vendor  Wertheimer..Filter by Outcome  SoldFilter by Buyer  WARATAH..350 000 €
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 DARASHANDEH		Filter by Vendor  Aga Khan..Filter by Outcome  SoldFilter by Buyer  WARATAH..110 000 €
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 SANJIDA		Filter by Vendor  PerelleFilter by Outcome  SoldFilter by Buyer  WARATAH..1 700 000 €
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1435Miss Keller (IRE) B.M. by Montjeu (IRE) x Ingozi (GB) Related Results625,000
DEC 11Consignor: Three Chimneys Sales, USA (Agent) — Purchaser: Waratah Thoroughbreds 
1745Siren's Song (IRE) B.F. by Azamour (IRE) x Lurina (IRE) Related Results320,000
DEC 11Consignor: Commonstown Racing Stables Ltd., Ireland (Mrs J. Harrington) — Purchaser: Waratah Thoroughbreds 
126Invincible Spirit (IRE) / Miss Intimate (USA) B.C. Related Results100,000
OC1 12Consignor: Lynn Lodge Stud, Ireland — Purchaser: Waratah Thoroughbreds 
167Oasis Dream (GB) / On A Soapbox (USA) B.F. Related Results260,000
OC1 12Consignor: Newsells Park Stud Ltd. — Purchaser: Waratah Thoroughbreds 
170High Chaparral (IRE) / Onereuse (GB) B.F. Related Results230,000
OC1 12Consignor: Clairemont Stud — Purchaser: Waratah Thoroughbreds 
334Montjeu (IRE) / Wanna (IRE) B.C. Related Results725,000
OC1 12Consignor: Churchtown House Stud, Ireland — Purchaser: Waratah Thoroughbreds 
356Galileo (IRE) / Witch of Fife (USA) B.F. Related Results900,000
OC1 12Consignor: Croom House Stud, Ireland — Purchaser: Waratah Thoroughbreds 
361Arch (USA) / Zappeuse (USA) B.C. Related Results200,000
OC1 12Consignor: Kildaragh Stud, Ireland — Purchaser: Waratah Thoroughbreds 
404Oasis Dream (GB) / Arosa (IRE) B.F. Related Results525,000
OC1 12Consignor: Barronstown Stud, Ireland — Purchaser: Waratah Thoroughbreds 
487New Approach (IRE) / Crimson Ribbon (USA) B.C. Related Results260,000
OC1 12Consignor: Hascombe & Valiant Stud — Purchaser: Waratah Thoroughbreds 
908Dubawi (IRE) / Lady Eclair (IRE) B.F. Related Results150,000
DEF 12Consignor: Goldford Stud (Agent) — Purchaser: Waratah Thoroughbreds 
945Oasis Dream (GB) / Albanova (GB) B.F. Related Results450,000
DEF 12Consignor: St Simon Stud — Purchaser: Waratah Thoroughbreds 
997Royal Applause (GB) / Like A Dame (GB) B.F. Related Results160,000
DEF 12Consignor: Churchtown House Stud, Ireland — Purchaser: Waratah Thoroughbreds
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For a while he had mostly duds, but lately his horses have been popping up as winners a fair bit.

Common themes are their mostly from overseas brought out here unraced, the trainers/owner are very patient with them bringing them along slowly, and mostly out of stallions i have not heard of or rarely.

Big spread of trainers too, Vandyke has at least 2 or 3 that are multiple winners, and i've seen moody and smerdon with at least one each.

His not afraid to spend the coin, i've seen horses by galileo, dynaformer, dansili.

Mostly milers and above.
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Fwiw, he's referring to Lot 945 Sanctuary, Sandown maiden winner over 1400m, trained by Weir.
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They seem to have a lot of up and coming horses with Weiry these days. My Sanctuary looks like she is good one.
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They also have Master of Arts with Weir, was second fav for the QLD Derby but pulled up sore after trackwork a couple of days before the race
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Apparently Telopea has been ruled out of the spring due to a cut that needed stitching up. It is surely more than a simple cut that needed stitching to rule her out of a whole spring............
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My Sanctuary a Ticino Special.   Wink

Dam was Champion German Thoroughbred.   Party
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She probably has copious amounts of class and might well win easily but gee it pisses me off a filly with this pedigree would be kicked off over 1000m.

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BALLETUSA (GB)Bay filly 2013 
Dansili
Bay or brown 1996		Danehill
Bay 1986		Danzig
Bay 1977		Northern Dancer
Bay 1961		Nearctic
Natalma		1954
1957		14-c
2-d
Pas de Nom
Bay or brown 1968		Admiral's Voyage
Petitioner		1959
1952		4-n
7-a
Razyana
Bay 1981		His Majesty
Bay 1968		Ribot
Flower Bowl		1952
1952		4-l
4-d
Spring Adieu
Bay 1974		Buckpasser
Natalma		1963
1957		1-s
2-d
Hasili
Bay 1991		Kahyasi
Bay 1985		Ile de Bourbon
Bay 1975		Nijinsky
Roseliere		1967
1965		8-f
4-i
Kadissya
Bay 1979		Blushing Groom
Kalkeen		1974
1974		22-d
5-e
Kerali
Chestnut 1984		High Line
Chestnut 1966		High Hat
Time Call		1957
1955		2-o
5-e
Sookera
Bay or brown 1975		Roberto
Irule		1969
1968		12-c
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Bay 2006		Montjeu
Bay 1996		Sadler's Wells
Bay 1981		Northern Dancer
Bay 1961		Nearctic
Natalma		1954
1957		14-c
2-d
Fairy Bridge
Bay 1975		Bold Reason
Special		1968
1969		19-b
5-h
Floripedes
Bay 1985		Top Ville
Bay 1976		High Top
Sega Ville		1969
1968		11-a
8-i
Toute Cy
Bay 1979		Tennyson
Adele Toumignon		1970
1971		1-t
1-u
Ingozi
Bay 1991		Warning
Bay 1985		Known Fact
Bay or brown 1977		In Reality
Tamerett		1964
1962		21-a
2-f
Slightly Dangerous
Bay 1979		Roberto
Where You Lead		1969
1970		12-c
14-f
Inchmurrin
Bay 1985		Lomond
Bay 1980		Northern Dancer
My Charmer		1961
1969		2-d
13-c
On Show
Brown 1978		Welsh Pageant
African Dancer		1966
1973		1-s
7-a
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If she's to become a quality stayer, this'll be the  equivalent of a trial for her, even tho' she's likely barely turned 3yo (NH foal) vs older horses.
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I tend to agree BUT Weir is not afraid to start horses first up over 1600m so she must be showing some dash

Waratah are no mugs & they would tell Weiry if things were different
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I can never tell which horse is which at Weiry's jumpouts but I think this is the filly that has been smashing them into the ground over the sprint trip. Can never remember names so could be completely wrong
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You might well be right judging by the 1.95 Qtab LOL
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Originally posted by tillyras tillyras wrote:

I can never tell which horse is which at Weiry's jumpouts but I think this is the filly that has been smashing them into the ground over the sprint trip. Can never remember names so could be completely wrong

This is where I think our trainers get it wrong.

If a Japanese or European trainer had a horse with this pedigree showing that sort of speed they would not automatically start it off over the minimum trip.

They would harness that speed and have it using that speed at a mile plus.
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Thank you top tote.

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I tend to take no notice of a Weir favourite on the drift, they still tend to win.

Very impressed with the filly, will only get better
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I had the impression that a drifting Weir runner was not a good sign. Like Smeardon for instance.
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