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Toll Road
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It's offical the Victorian courts and legal system have lost the plot. The criminals have more rights that the law abiding citizen.
Melbourne carjacker’s jail time cut because prison can’t deal with her A
Melbourne carjacker who went on a 30-hour crime has had her jail sentence
slashed because prison guards are struggling to control her. Melissa Iaria, Herald Sun Teryaki requires 23-hour solitary confinement and handcuffs much of the time. Picture: Stock Image Jail staff are struggling to control a young Melbourne carjacker with an
“extraordinary” rap sheet who’s unable to get the “intensive” rehabilitation
treatment she needs because she’s a woman. Heba Teryaki received a reduced prison term on appeal today, after the
Court of Appeal found her jail time could worsen her significant mental
impairment, which has been blamed for her crimes. Teryaki requires 23-hour solitary confinement and handcuffs much of the
time, has an extremely low IQ, borderline personality disorder and is violent
and irrational behind bars. The appeal judges said no one had been able to solve how to deal with
her in jail, other than keeping her isolated under the most stringent
conditions. “The applicant finds herself in an utterly deplorable situation,” they
said in their ruling. “It seems as though she is in desperate need of some form of intensive
therapeutic treatment. “Facilities are available to provide such treatment in secure
institutions, but only for male offenders. That situation is obviously
unacceptable. It must not be allowed to continue.” Teryaki was jailed for three
years, with a minimum of two years, in 2018 over a 30-hour crime spree that
included a carjacking and two attempted carjackings across suburban Melbourne
in 2017. The appeal judges reduced her term to two years and three months, with a
minimum one year and nine months, saying jail has been more a burden for
Teryaki than the sentencing judge realised. They said her behaviour in jail had been worsening, staff were
struggling to deal with her and there was a risk her jail term would affect her
chances of rehabilitation. Teryaki was 22 at the time she and a male co-offender threatened a woman
with a knife before stealing her Hyundai. The next day Teryaki tried to carjack another woman, but she managed to
drive off with Teryaki and a co-offender hanging onto the car mirrors. That
same night, a woman parked at a gym was approached by a male and Teryaki but
refused to hand over her keys. The male stabbed her in the thigh, causing a small cut. The victim
managed to run and the offenders couldn’t start her car because she still had
the immobilisation chip. At the time of the offending, Teryaki was living at a facility for young
people with intellectual disabilities. When arrested, she admitted stealing the Hyundai and said she’d smoked
ice, but couldn’t remember specific allegations. Given time served, Teryaki has less than two months left of her sentence
before she’s eligible for parole. The judges said on release it was hoped she would live under the
auspices of Jesuit Social Services to get treatment. Edited by Gay3 - 04 Jun 2019 at 3:10pm |
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acacia alba
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Good luck with that one !
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animals before people.
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Toll Road
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Yeah to bad about the people who are law abiding and do the right thing. We have to deal with the criminals on the streets now.
Not to sure what the judges would think if she car jacked them or a family member.
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acacia alba
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Let her roam the streets until she kills someone, or the police are forced to shoot her, then everyone will be asking why was she allowed out. If she has to be kept confined so be it. People,s safety is more important than her rights. But thats just MHO. Am sure there are others here prepared to take her on and care for her ??
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animals before people.
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Toll Road
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Problem is they keep letting them out or out on parole and they do kill or reoffend.
I agree with you people's safety comes first not the welfare or care of a criminal. Might be time to take away the 5 star accommodation they call prisons and give them an old style jail back like pentridge prison again.
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rusty nails
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Don’t be ridiculous.
She has not been playing croquet in the mornings and tennis in the afternoons. The problem is not that they keep letting them out to reoffend, it’s that she is in clear need of help,and she’s been treated like an animal the entire time she’s been incarcerated. Blame the neglect of the system, there’s plenty more that have been let out without any help or supervision that they need to be safe for both society and themselves. |
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maccamax
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RUSTY = WAKE UP.
( In clear need of help - treated like an animal the whole time she has been incarcerated ) YOUR WORDS . IDIOTIC STATEMENT . Give us your suggestion on how you would approach the care and treatment of such an out of control , unfortunate ) I may tell you --- Such people kill & have killed , staff who care for them .. I can also tell you they would maim / Kill many more if they had their way . ON THE STREETS IS NOT THE PLACE FOR THEM. |
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In solitary confinement 23 hours a day, handcuffed most of the time, is being treated like an animal.
I certainly not advocating she be released onto the streets without help or supervision. Solitary confinement 23 hours a day is not the solution either. |
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You obviously haven't been front line in dealing with such dangerous people Rusty ... ( What is your alternative to solitary confinement )
If you had 1st hand knowledge , you would not be questioning any methods used in handling such situations. Spare a thought for the essential services people especially, who have lost their life. Quite often, due to their trying to limit the restrictions necessary to be in full control of dangerous situations at all times. The horrendous tortures suffered by people like Virginia Morse , Anits Cobby , Victims of Ivan Milat would have you view things differently. ( Most of what I refer to was never made public ) Idle words like "help & supervision" are not an option in these serious cases. , Edited by horlicks - 04 Jun 2019 at 7:55pm |
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In a brutally honest world you would knock her on the head when she was asleep - & redirect the millions of dollars saved to people that can be rehabilitated.
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Overlooked oneone is the fact that other inmates who are not so dangerous and can be rehabilitated , suffer big time at the hands of the psychopaths who are not in seclusion or restraint. . Staff priority is to protect them , at their own safety risk. I note a case in the NT tonight, where some 5 have died , is the very area where a Royal Commission banned many types of restraining dangerous people ( since overturned ). That is what follows advice like " Help & avoid restraining methods". It is not a pretty problem , I admit , but some simply can't be changed. |
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If she needs rehabilitation, she should be moved from the prison to a mental institution, as no prison has any rehabilitation facilities that can adequately do the job.
She is obviously a person who has low responsibility of her actions and does not fully realise the consequences of her actions. This is what happens when judges follow the letter of the law, and forget their obligation to the community who pay their wages. The ultimate function of a court, of law is to keep the community safe. As mentioned before, this is a disaster waiting to happen! |
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acacia alba
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Here we go again. Known to police,,, out on parole, and 4 dead, maybe 5. How many chances should these dead beats get ?
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animals before people.
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maccamax
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They closed all of the Schedule 5 areas that held these hard to manage killers. That's why we have such dangerous societies now . Kenmore , Orange , etc have very few people there now days . Both those Institutions had Nurses killed in them . Callan Park , Rydalmere , Ryde , morrisett don't handle the Crims anymore. |
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The NT offender was being "Helped & Supervised "
Helped onto Parole & Supervised by an ankle devise to track him . With him , in seclusion and controlled , at least 4 people wouldn't have been DEAD today. SHAME ON OUR JUDICIAL SYSTEM. |
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acacia alba
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Certainly a bad move on the part of the justice system. It seems like its more about the crook,s rights to do as they please, and less about the general public,s rights to be safe from them. Four dead because some dim wit has been allowed to roam the street and even get his hands on a gun, when he should have been locked away somewhere . And not only 4 dead but all the other people this incident will impact on for the rest of their lives.
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Toll Road
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I agree AA but the leftie/greenies say that the criminals have rights. The courts and jusdges say the pedo's. rapist and murders that Peter Dutton wants to cancelle their visa and deport have rights. So they override Duttons call and let them say here with us. Seems the only people who don't have rights are the law abiding citizens
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This is not analogous with the girl with severe mental impairment that was locked up in solitary for 23 hours a day. Do you understand what parole is? Are you suggesting anyone who is ever jailed should never be released? |
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James Gargasoulas is another that comes to mind quickly that tried to use mental illness as a defence. Life in jail for him as well as Julian Knight and many, many others
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I think there are many who should never be released, ever. Too many to even list. And many who should not be out on parole either. This bloke in Darwin was on parol, and now 4 innocents are dead. So was that rapist that murdered Jill Meagher and thats just 2 off the top of my head. Why does anyone even think these types should have any rights at all ??
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what types,do you even know what he was on parole for ? There will always be some on parole who offend, do you suggest cancelling 100 % of parole. Or maybe they should bring you in as a consultant, make use of your expertise in the area
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A symptom of a carefree labor government.
Dangerous paedophile’s release as ‘foolproof as you can get’: Attorney General John QuigleyAttorney-General John Quigley says he is concerned about the release of a dangerous paedophile from prison, but says the Government cannot lock up offenders indefinitely. The State Government has confirmed that a serial sex offender who raped girls as young as three will soon be released, even though he recently told psychiatrists he believed the victims played some part in encouraging the assaults. The 65-year-old, who can be named only as MGD, was jailed in 2009 after pleading guilty to 21 child abuse crimes, including rape.He will be released under 49 conditions, including that he wear a radio tracking device. Last year the McGowan Government pushed through promised legislation to toughen laws around the release of sex offenders, reversing the onus of proof and introducing a presumption against bail. Mr Quigley was vocal about the need for tougher laws against child sex offenders when he was in Opposition. But the Attorney-General said yesterday said the Government could not lock someone up indefinitely.He will be released under 49 conditions, including that he wear a radio tracking device. Last year the McGowan Government pushed through promised legislation to toughen laws around the release of sex offenders, reversing the onus of proof and introducing a presumption against bail. Mr Quigley was vocal about the need for tougher laws against child sex offenders when he was in Opposition. But the Attorney-General said yesterday said the Government could not lock someone up indefinitely.He will be released under 49 conditions, including that he wear a radio tracking device. Last year the McGowan Government pushed through promised legislation to toughen laws around the release of sex offenders, reversing the onus of proof and introducing a presumption against bail. Mr Quigley was vocal about the need for tougher laws against child sex offenders when he was in Opposition. But the Attorney-General said yesterday said the Government could not lock someone up indefinitely.https://thewest.com.au/news/court-justice/dangerous-paedophiles-release-as-foolproof-as-you-can-get-attorney-general-john-quigley-ng-b881219978z |
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And max this is the society we are looking forward to now, remote surveillance. Our retirement homes and seniors facilities are understaffed so the employees are doing a check on everyone once every three hours, if you are lucky. Closed Circuit television has now taken over from guards on trains and regular patrols of known trouble spots. AVO's are thought by the polictically correct and those who want to feel as though they are doing something about domestic violence, to be the answer, but the rate of DV keeps rising. and ankle brcelets are now being used as substitutes for imprisonment. |
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A young thug who bashed two paramedics while high on drugs has walked free — despite the offence carrying a mandatory six months in prison.
Now Premier Daniel Andrews is calling on the DPP to launch an urgent review of the sentence after today’s verdict. About time Dopey Dan got ride of some of the judiciary in Victoria. “Our thoughts are with the victims of this completely unacceptable attack,” Mr Andrews said. “The DPP should give urgent consideration to appealing this matter.” Paramedic Monica cried in court as she learned the man who repeatedly punched her in the face and pinned her against the wall of her ambulance would not be jailed. Seasoned police prosecutors were in tears at the bar table and a furious paramedic union boss, Danny Hill, has labelled the legislation “a dud”. James Haberfield, 22, was sent to hospital after taking a cocktail of party drugs including MDMA, ketamine and ice at the Rainbow Serpent music festival on January 25th. But four days later he escaped, roamed the streets of Coburg and broke into a home before an ambulance was eventually called. While being treated in the back of the truck, Haberfield became aggressive and pushed Monica to the ground before putting her in a headlock and punching her in the face. Witnesses in nearby homes recalled seeing the ambulance rock back and forth and “the silhouette of Haberfield attacking” the young woman. Hearing his colleague’s screams, paramedic Sam Smith ran to Monica’s aid and was himself caught in a flurry of violent punches from the delirious Haberfield. Haberfield pleaded guilty assaulting an emergency worker on duty and recklessly causing injury. On the steps of the Melbourne Magistrates’ Court, Monica said she suffers from constant flashbacks and has been unable to return to work since. Haberfield pleaded guilty to assaulting an emergency worker on duty and recklessly causing injury. |
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27 September 2016
OPP PRINCIPAL SOLICITOR ADVOCATE APPOINTED A MAGISTRATEOffice of Public Prosecutions (OPP) Principal Solicitor Advocate Simon Zebrowski has been appointed a Victorian Magistrate, Attorney-General Martin Pakula has announced. Mr Pakula said Mr Zebrowski has extensive experience in criminal law and will be a welcome addition to the Magistrates’ Court. Acting Director of Public Prosecutions Brendan Kissane QC said Mr Zebrowski has always produced work of a high standard in his time at the Victorian Bar and the OPP. “He has performed important roles in early resolution and advocacy, and has made an excellent contribution to the OPP” Mr Kissane said. |
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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... and when they are finished with Mr Haberfield, they should get equal time on equal terms with Mr Zebrowski, and then Mr Andrews.
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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The virtue signallers are destroying this country.
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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