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    Posted: 27 Sep 2018 at 11:16pm
I assume that means he can train during this period.

If the defendant is the one who choses to prolong the case, then they should be stood down until the matter is finalised, at least until he supreme court stage has been completed, a bit like being stood down until a investigation takes place with police officers who have allegations against them.
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He's got a QC?

Must have an an alternative source of income,how much prizemoney did he earn last year?
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BEN CURRIE HEARING DEFERRED FOR MONTHS

Thursday 27 September, 2018
Mark Oberhardt

A stewards hearing into 28 charges against Toowoomba trainer Ben Currie may not be heard for at least six months.

Currie's lawyers have lodged a Supreme Court review application seeking orders involving the charges which arise from a raid on his stables at Toowoomba on April 7.

The application which mainly involves particulars of the stewards case has to be resolved before an inquiry can resume.

The application was to be heard in the Supreme Court in Brisbane on Thursday but was delisted.

A Queensland Racing Integrity Commission spokesperson confirmed the stewards hearing was now unlikely to go ahead until next year.

"Mr Currie's legal representatives and the Queensland Racing Integrity Commission have today agreed on dates for the filing of materials and the Supreme Court hearing will commence on February 22," the spokesperson said.

"The stewards inquiry cannot be resumed until the Supreme Court matter has been determined."

It is usual for applications to the court to take up to a month to get a decision which means the stewards inquiry may not start until at least April.

Currie's lawyer Jim Murdoch QC said he could not comment until after legal matters had been resolved.

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just wondering if there was any follow up on this swab result?
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just wondering if there was any follow up on this swab result?
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Ben Currie takes case to Supreme Court

Mark Oberhardt

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Thursday 30 August 2018, 4:22pm

The inquiry involving 28 alleged offences against Toowoomba trainer Ben Currie has been further adjourned after his lawyers went to the Brisbane Supreme Court seeking a judicial review of three aspects of the case.

Stewards charged Currie and several of his staff after raiding his Toowoomba stables on April 7.

He was originally charged with 31 offences but three of those were dropped and the remaining 28 charges were to be heard at a reconvened inquiry on August 13.

That inquiry was adjourned to allow further particulars of the charges to be given to Currie's lawyers.

In a short statement on Thursday, the Queensland Racing Integrity Commission said the reconvened stewards inquiry had been further delayed until the outcome of a Supreme Court hearing.

A Supreme Court application for judicial review by Currie is set down for September 28.

Currie's lawyers will seek the review on the grounds stewards have not properly exercised their right of discretion to allow Currie to have legal representation at his hearing.

His lawyers to date have not been allowed into the previous inquiry hearings.

It will also be further argued QRIC has failed to provide proper particulars relating to some charges including how Currie was alleged to have influenced or been responsible for any breach of rules.

Thirdly, Currie's lawyers will allege he has been denied justice by QRIC refusing to release to them transcripts of a hearing in which some of Currie's employees were questioned under oath by a barrister.

QRIC Commissioner Ross Barnett said the Commission would make no comment at this time.

Currie's lawyer Jim Murdoch QC also said he had no comment until after the Supreme Court hearing.


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So they’ve applied to the Supreme Court to try and avoid the inquiry. This is getting ridiculous.
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Originally posted by TJMitchell TJMitchell wrote:

Originally posted by anabel anabel wrote:

Spends a lot of time defending himself on social media... not sure why he bothers to be honest.


I've said before, he's either confident he's in the right or he's got a massive set of cojones
Like the very best cheats he spent some time last month over in the U.S visiting tracks, trainers and no doubt Vets. Enough said
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Originally posted by anabel anabel wrote:

Spends a lot of time defending himself on social media... not sure why he bothers to be honest.

I've said before, he's either confident he's in the right or he's got a massive set of cojones
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Spends a lot of time defending himself on social media... not sure why he bothers to be honest.
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The inquiry involving 28 alleged offences against Toowoomba trainer Ben Currie has been further adjourned after his lawyers went to the Brisbane Supreme Court seeking a judicial review of three aspects of the case.

Stewards charged Currie and several of his staff after raiding his Toowoomba stables on April 7.

He was originally charged with 31 offences but three of those were dropped and the remaining 28 charges were to be heard at a reconvened inquiry on August 13.

That inquiry was adjourned to allow further particulars of the charges to be given to Currie's lawyers.

In a short statement on Thursday, the Queensland Racing Integrity Commission said the reconvened stewards inquiry had been further delayed until the outcome of a Supreme Court hearing.

A Supreme Court application for judicial review by Currie is set down for September 28.

Currie's lawyers will seek the review on the grounds stewards have not properly exercised their right of discretion to allow Currie to have legal representation at his hearing.

His lawyers to date have not been allowed into the previous inquiry hearings.

It will also be further argued QRIC has failed to provide proper particulars relating to some charges including how Currie was alleged to have influenced or been responsible for any breach of rules.

Thirdly, Currie's lawyers will allege he has been denied justice by QRIC refusing to release to them transcripts of a hearing in which some of Currie's employees were questioned under oath by a barrister.

QRIC Commissioner Ross Barnett said the Commission would make no comment at this time.

Currie's lawyer Jim Murdoch QC also said he had no comment until after the Supreme Court hearing.


one thing to come out this whole currie deal is my discovery of his twitter. can be a funny arvo read
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The mighty DOB stable, 5 winners from their past 50 runners, thank God for the synthetic tracks then eh? cos 4 were on them and 1 at Sale.......his neighbour and fellow Cobalt accused KAV the MAN, well his stats send you to the wailing wall, now why are their stats so poor? plain coincidence or something else?
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The wheels are well and truly off. Without a few home track results he would be scratching his head. Funny how many stables winners seem to dry up when closer scrutiny is paid to their runners. Coincidence maybe ??
Couldn’t help but notice yesterday , the new Brisbane Race Club Members Badge has Ben Curries race colour on it !
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Originally posted by Batman Batman wrote:

The wheels are well and truly off. Without a few home track results he would be scratching his head. Funny how many stables winners seem to dry up when closer scrutiny is paid to their runners. Coincidence maybe ??
Waller had 19 runners at Randwick without a winner, spose his wheels are falling off too Batman. Ben has 10 winners in his last 50, bring up any trainer you like and 10 is as good as any you will find.
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He trained 3 yesterday in Toowoomba. One by 10, one by 1.3 and the other by 4.   Seems to me that the wheel brace has been brought out and jumped on by me and the wheels are well and truly tightened on.    What a dumb comment yours is Batman
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The wheels are well and truly off. Without a few home track results he would be scratching his head. Funny how many stables winners seem to dry up when closer scrutiny is paid to their runners. Coincidence maybe ??
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Samples taken from Ben Currie-trained horses on Weetwood Handicap day at Toowoomba have been cleared of containing prohibited substances.

The tests, which were taken on April 7 this year, were part of an investigation into the Ben and Mark Curriestable on the morning of Toowoomba's biggest raceday.

Officers from the Queensland Racing Integrity Commission seized a number of items from the stable, as well as taking blood and urine samples from seven horses in Currie's care.

QRIC Commissioner Ross Barnett said it was important to be transparent about the test results.

“All testing is now complete and none of the samples taken for testing contained any prohibited substances,” Barnett said.

“In the aftermath (to the April 7 stewards visit), several Currie Racing employees have been charged and penalised for raceday treatment breaches.

“I want to make it clear that treating a horse on raceday with any medication, prohibited or not without the permission of the stewards is a breach of the Australian Rules of Racing," Barnett said. 

The legal representatives of both Ben and Mark Currie have been informed of the latest findings.
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Originally posted by skippy123 skippy123 wrote:

Batman I wonder if you knew the results of the cobalt retests (ordered by Judges) done in Qld and Victoria that have finally speciated cobalt and Vitamin B12 in the samples??

No Skippy, I don’t know and hope the cobalt turns out to be something not sinister. I doubt any trainer would be dumb enough to knowingly administer. However the Aquanita and Currie stables do not seem to be Cobalt infringements.
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Batman I wonder if you knew the results of the cobalt retests (ordered by Judges) done in Qld and Victoria that have finally speciated cobalt and Vitamin B12 in the samples??
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They’re having plenty of problems in Toowoomba. The next biggest operation up there has also just returned a cobalt positive from a winner at Kilcoy. There will be no trainers left soon, except the few that follow the rules.
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Russ Hinze would be turning in his grave that he wasn't able to be part of this rort
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Originally posted by Batman Batman wrote:

I could add another charge that could be considered.
Bringing racing into dispute would be one for sure. What amazes me are the owners who are happy to leave their horses there, knowing that the horses are getting an unfair advantage. 

If Ben and dad really believed it was legal to give horses "stuff" on raceday, why did they do it in secrecy? In my books, he can train a thousand winners, buy will always be a cheat who had his success based on breaching rules. Obviously not all horses get treated on race day, but winning races with juiced up horses leads to better horses in the stable, more clients, and that means more winners. And that goes back to being willing to cheat in the first place. 

He is not the first or only one, and the Aquanita saga shows that, but there will be more and more worried now. A good telltale sign is the stables whose strikerate drops through the floor without illness being to blame. Some of the cheat have pulled their heads in, albeit possibly only temporarily, since the increased testing. 

The other stunning thing is being allowed to continue training until this is sorted. He should be stood down like in other situations where people are charged with major offenses. QRIC needs to show some guts and protect the integrity of racing.

Maybe if all trainers refuse to race against Currie trained horses, the powers to be would soon act. 
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Getting a stay via QCAT is a rubber stamp process. The fact they took a few days before awarding one to Currie speaks volumes.
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Originally posted by linghi11 linghi11 wrote:

If QCAT saw the video and still gave them a stay, QCAT have a lot to answer for.

Owners are THERE for the unfair advantage, pure and simple.

Those owners should be ashamed to be associated with this stable. Says a lot for their character.
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If QCAT saw the video and still gave them a stay, QCAT have a lot to answer for.

Owners are THERE for the unfair advantage, pure and simple.
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I could add another charge that could be considered.
Bringing racing into dispute would be one for sure. What amazes me are the owners who are happy to leave their horses there, knowing that the horses are getting an unfair advantage. 

If Ben and dad really believed it was legal to give horses "stuff" on raceday, why did they do it in secrecy? In my books, he can train a thousand winners, buy will always be a cheat who had his success based on breaching rules. Obviously not all horses get treated on race day, but winning races with juiced up horses leads to better horses in the stable, more clients, and that means more winners. And that goes back to being willing to cheat in the first place. 

He is not the first or only one, and the Aquanita saga shows that, but there will be more and more worried now. A good telltale sign is the stables whose strikerate drops through the floor without illness being to blame. Some of the cheat have pulled their heads in, albeit possibly only temporarily, since the increased testing. 

The other stunning thing is being allowed to continue training until this is sorted. He should be stood down like in other situations where people are charged with major offenses. QRIC needs to show some guts and protect the integrity of racing.

Maybe if all trainers refuse to race against Currie trained horses, the powers to be would soon act. 
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Originally posted by linghi11 linghi11 wrote:

Maybe QRIC could just send a full-time steward to supervise this yard, especially race morning.
LOLLOL After watching the video link in the Courier Mail, they might get the steward to hold the syringes for them. They seemed to have their hands full 
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Currie inquiry takes a turn as CCTV footage emerges

Posted by: Michael Nicholls+ at 4:31pm on 9/7/2018
Posted in: BreakingHorse Racing News

Pivotal information in Queensland Racing Integrity Commission’s case against Ben Currie and four of his stable employees has emerged.

CCTV Footage obtained by The Courier Mail allegedly shows Ben Currie’s father, Mark Currie, illegally treating horses on raceday at Ben Currie’s Hursley Road stable in Toowoomba.

The footage published on The Courier Mail was filmed on March 24, a key date where stewards allege that 5 horses were treated illegally before racing that same day.

The Courier Mail also published transcripts of interviews transcripts conducted by QRIC’s integrity regulation unit manager Tracey Pelling, chief steward Allan Reardon and steward Ian Brown with Mark Currie.

In one of the excerpts Mark Currie was questioned whether he had treated Gully’s Command on March 24 to which he replied “I’ll take responsibility for it”.

Alan Reardon: … You agree that Gully Command’s been treated on that day?

Mark Currie: Yep.

Alan Reardon: Is there anything you’d like to say before the team here review further footage?

Mark Currie: No. I’ll just take it – I’ll take responsibility for it.

Mark Currie was disqualified for two years after being found guilty of 16 charges involving race day treatment. He remains operating having been granted an extension of a stay on his disqualification.

Ben Currie is facing 31 charges which mainly relate to alleged race day treatments.

He has pleaded not guilty to those charges and has indicated he will defend them all.

Other Ben Currie employees punished as a result of the inquiry include Greg Britnell (18 months disqualification), Cameron Schwenke (three months suspension) and Silde Canda (three months suspension).

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