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No kidding "there is seldom just one."
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Mr Avenatti tweeted that the New Yorker person named Ms Ramirez is not his client.
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Geez, If true, they sound like a lovely pair of ''gentlemen''Shocked

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And another one. There is seldom just one. No wonder Grassley and McTurtle wanted to force the vote on Monday. 

Funny how it is the accusers who are asking to be put under oath in FBI investigations where they face prison time for lying.



The woman at the center of the story, Deborah Ramirez, who is fifty-three, attended Yale with Kavanaugh, where she studied sociology and psychology. Later, she spent years working for an organization that supports victims of domestic violence. The New Yorker contacted Ramirez after learning of her possible involvement in an incident involving Kavanaugh. The allegation was conveyed to Democratic senators by a civil-rights lawyer. For Ramirez, the sudden attention has been unwelcome, and prompted difficult choices. She was at first hesitant to speak publicly, partly because her memories contained gaps because she had been drinking at the time of the alleged incident. In her initial conversations with The New Yorker, she was reluctant to characterize Kavanaugh’s role in the alleged incident with certainty. After six days of carefully assessing her memories and consulting with her attorney, Ramirez said that she felt confident enough of her recollections to say that she remembers Kavanaugh had exposed himself at a drunken dormitory party, thrust his penis in her face, and caused her to touch it without her consent as she pushed him away. Ramirez is now calling for the F.B.I. to investigate Kavanaugh’s role in the incident. “I would think an F.B.I. investigation would be warranted,” she said.
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This doesn't sound good right on top of the Yale allegations now being investigated.



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Certain facts can be established with a proper investigation by people trained to do these investigations, like time place rumours at the time(one witness has stated this in writing).

At least then, you may not get a definitive answer, but you will have a better informed hearing.

Had Kavanaugh and Judge stayed quiet this would likely not be taking place. Their categorical denial has made it a they said/she said situation. Also Judge's interview where he brought into the discussion the possibility of it being misinterpreted ''horseplay'' casts further doubt. Kerry Severino of the Judicial Action Group, an organisation funding and supporting Kavanaugh and like ultra conservative judges repeated the ''horseplay'' possibility yesterday. 
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by Shammy Davis Shammy Davis wrote:

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She will remember the incident vividly, just not time and place. . .
Sounds pretty vague to me.

VIVID = producing strong, clear images in the mind.

But you petty much define everything in your own way, don't you?


You may not remember the birthday or anniversary date of your ex wife Shammy, but you dont forget the nightmare that was the failed marriage.
That's a petty bad analogy. The nightmare memories of a failed marriage when recalled doesn't destroy the lives of the in-laws, groomsmen, bridesmaids, and wedding guests either.
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For the sake of argument, let's say that Ford is lying. How does Kav defend himself? For the sake of argument, let's say that Ford is telling the truth and Kav is lying. How does anybody investigate that?

I just don't see how you can go anywhere with this.
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I agree. Get the FBI investigation over with and it all stops.

But Republicans and apologists for Kavanaugh on ideological grounds do not want an investigation because it will clarify the alleged incident. These corrupt Republicans want to be able to say that her case was not proven in a sham procedure that denies her any semblance of due process, so they can approve him regardless.

What do you tell your daughter of grand daughter who is the victim of rape or sexual assault and is judged by people who diminish or dismiss her experience because of who they are and what they have done themselves? Suck it up princess, at least we got another hard right judge?
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It's the hypocrisy, you goof. What about everyone else who's been dragged into this scam?
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You mean the Federalists and Ed Whelan? That was appalling. That poor man they dragged into it with their bizarre conspiracy theory to cover up for Kavanaugh and Judge is getting abuse and death threats now.

You dont have to do that crap if you have nothing to hide.

Unbelievable.

Tell me you are not this clueless stayer.
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

You mean the Federalists and Ed Whelan? That was appalling. That poor man they dragged into it with their bizarre conspiracy theory to cover up for Kavanaugh and Judge is getting abuse and death threats now.

You dont have to do that crap if you have nothing to hide.

Unbelievable.
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Did you actually read her account in the WaPo?
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She will remember the incident vividly, just not time and place. . .
Sounds pretty vague to me.

VIVID = producing strong, clear images in the mind.

But you petty much define everything in your own way, don't you?

You may not remember the birthday or anniversary date of your ex wife Shammy, but you dont forget the nightmare that was the failed marriage.
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

She will remember the incident vividly, just not time and place. . .
Sounds pretty vague to me.

VIVID = producing strong, clear images in the mind.

But you petty much define everything in your own way, don't you?
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Is Mr Mueller investigating this Kavanaugh business? Not from a sexual assault perspective but as a part of his broader Russian operations in the US? There may have been clues in Manafort's guilty plea last week and the detail the accusations went into re the smear job he did on Ukraine PM Yulia Tymoshenko. Strong parallels in the way Whelan et al were going about discrediting Dr Ford. Typical Russian active measures operation. I am sure he will take an interest in the media groups who pushed the conspiracy, as he is in the media groups involved in the circulating of disinformation in 2015-16.
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You mean the Federalists and Ed Whelan? That was appalling. That poor man they dragged into it with their bizarre conspiracy theory to cover up for Kavanaugh and Judge is getting abuse and death threats now.

You dont have to do that crap if you have nothing to hide.
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What a shameless debacle. And dragging other people into the mess as well. Nice.
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She will remember the incident vividly, just not time and place. Kavanaugh remembers he wasn't there but he doesn't remember where he wasn't or when. Cant remember those 5 - 10 years through his drunken haze

Call in the FBI to investigate....simples. There are at least 5 witnesses so far, bring them all in. 

Why does Kavanaugh not want to call for a proper investigation to clear his name?

Why would you want that doubt hanging over you and every decision you ever make?

Blasphemy Shammy? So petty.
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In a statement released late Saturday, White House spokeswoman Kerri Kupec said: "One week ago, Dr. Christine Ford claimed she was assaulted at a house party attended by four others. Since then, all four of these individuals have provided statements to the Senate Judiciary Committee denying any knowledge of the incident or even having attended such a party,” according to a pool report.

Christine Blasphemy Ford is going to be a very interesting and incredibly wacky witness. She will testify under oath to remembering nothing. One of CNNPT'S best people.
LOL

CNNPT doesn't believe her ...
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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In a statement released late Saturday, White House spokeswoman Kerri Kupec said: "One week ago, Dr. Christine Ford claimed she was assaulted at a house party attended by four others. Since then, all four of these individuals have provided statements to the Senate Judiciary Committee denying any knowledge of the incident or even having attended such a party,” according to a pool report.

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... noody cares.
if nobody cares,he'd already be appointed.
As it stands,there is a significant number of their population that either oppose his appointment,or want more information about his past before a decision is made.
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You spend a lot of time in here for someone who doesn't care, just like another little fella whose name escapes me. 
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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*nobody cares LOL
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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... noody cares.
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Whatever happens this week a process that should have been a straightforward numbers game and easy confirmation for a right wing judge has turned into a nightmare for Republicans only 6 weeks from the elections.

Why did Trump ''select'' him after personally adding him to the established list of 25 judges the Federalists had put together over a few years of right wing nut-job judges who would all do the same thing in regards Roe and all other far right pet issues? Why him, the first time in history 2 clerks from the same SCOTUS judge have become judges if approved?
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... he's a victim too you know.
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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That's what I said - couldn't give a toss about the crazy woman, just wants the spot light.

He might have a better case trying to get Billy's suspension overturned ...
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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