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It is offensive to refer to Abbott as a c##t- offensive to c###s
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Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

No mate, too dangerous for me!

Being that your circle jerk events have been suspended for that time, there will be dozens of CFMEU, ANTIFA, GetUpset, Red T-shirts, and Green's THUGS in attendance, who are there specifically to shut down free speech, and more importantly, assault and intimidate normal people carrying on their normal lives.

I guess you will be there with your balaclava and baseball bat ... or is that too "hand on" for you? 

... I can actually imagine you, propped up in your old stained oversize recliner, in the comfort of your own attic, watching The ABC vindicate the violence and make it look like there are "thousands" protesting ... I reckon it will prove hard for you to refrain from a "solo circle jerk" ... and that's just thinking about it! Embarrassed  

Sorry if that post causes any confusion, it is in reply to CNNPT ... and I just realised, I mentioned him being "hands on" twice!LOL
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No mate, too dangerous for me!

Being that your circle jerk events have been suspended for that time, there will be dozens of CFMEU, ANTIFA, GetUpset, Red T-shirts, and Green's THUGS in attendance, who are there specifically to shut down free speech, and more importantly, assault and intimidate normal people carrying on their normal lives.

I guess you will be there with your balaclava and baseball bat ... or is that too "hand on" for you? 

... I can actually imagine you, propped up in your old stained oversize recliner, in the comfort of your own attic, watching The ABC vindicate the violence and make it look like there are "thousands" protesting ... I reckon it will prove hard for you to refrain from a "solo circle jerk" ... and that's just thinking about it! Embarrassed  
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Originally posted by acacia alba acacia alba wrote:

So the moron didnt know the difference between the PM and the Premier ??  LOL  Under those circumstances who would care what he said , since he is plainly an idiot !!

Should of checked his back for any excessive scar tissue.
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Speaking of abuse in the guise of free speech, you never answered whether you were treating family and friends to the $1,000 a head racial abuse-fest that will be Tommy Robinson.
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Socialists only like free speech when they say it, or you are agreeing with them.


In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Just the rule of law. This should be overturned on appeal. Just like this one was. Truth is a defense. Thumbs Up

Court Rules It’s OK to Refer to Tony Abbott as a C*#t

Posted  by Sydney Criminal Lawyers & filed under NSW Courts.

By Paul Gregoire and Ugur Nedim

Danny Lim is a well-known Sydney activist who can often be seen around town wearing sandwich boards that express colourful political messages. On 29 August, the NSW District Court judgements quashed a conviction of offensive conduct that he’d received in the Local Court in February last year.

Mr Lim was standing near the intersection of New South Head Road and Ocean Street in Edgecliff at around 8.40am on 24 August 2015, when NSW police officers issued him with a fine $500 and a move-on order for offensive conduct.

The officers imposed the penalty and moved Mr Lim on, as he was wearing one of his signature sandwich boards with messages printed on either side, which apparently raised the ire of police.

The front of the sandwich board read:

PEACE SMILE. PEOPLE CAN CHANGE. “TONY YOU CUN’T..” LIAR, HEARTLESS, CRUEL. PEACE BE WITH YOU.

The back read:

“TRICKY LYING TONY YOU C∀N’T SCREW EDUCATION HEALTH, JOBS & THE ENVIRONMENT. CHILDREN’S CHILDREN’S FUTURE. SMILE.

The words that were deemed offensive on both sides of the board can be read as “can’t” with the apostrophe. However,  the prosecution argued in court that by inverting the letter “a” on the front of the sign it was actually referring to then Australian prime minister Tony Abbott as a “cup cake”.

“The language used was clearly a play on words,” District Court Judge Andrew Scotting reasoned during Mr Lim’s appeal last week. “If the appellant’s conduct was offensive, contrary to my view, in my view it was only marginally so.”

In the Local Court

Despite a crowdfunding page raising his $500 fine in only 56 minutes back in 2015, Mr Lim elected to challenge the fine in the Local Court.

He appeared in Waverley Local Court early last year and pleaded not guilty to one count of behave in an offensive manner in a public place contrary to section 4(1)section 4(1) of the Summary Offences Act 1988.

The section provides that “a person must not use offensive language in or near, or within hearing from, a public place or a school.” The maximum penalty is a fine of up to $660 and/or 3 months imprisonment.

Magistrate Lisa Stapleton found it a “straightforward case.” Her Honour accepted the impugned word was a play on words. She concluded that any reasonable person would find it offensive to use this word in reference to the prime minister, and found Mr Lim guilty of the offence on 9 February last year.

However, Her Honour did not explain why a reasonable person would be offended and seemed to assume the word was offensive in and of itself. Due to this, Judge Scotting found the magistrate was in error.

In the District Court

Mr Lim’s lawyers argued in the District Court that their client only used offensive language and that the words did not amount to offensive conduct. They further submitted that the political nature of their client’s communication was a reasonable excuse to have used the language.

Judge Scotting pointed out that under section 4(2) of the Summary Offences Act provides that “a person does not conduct himself or herself in an offensive manner as referred to in subsection (1) merely by using offensive language.”

Subsection (3) provides that it is a defence to the charge where a person has a “reasonable excuse” for conducting himself or herself in such a manner.

Meaning of “offensive”

Relying on previous authorities, His Honour noted that for conduct to be offensive, it “must be likely to provoke reactions such as anger, disgust, resentment or outrage” – it “must arouse a significant emotional reaction.”

This reaction must be provoked in a “hypothetical reasonable person,” who, according to case-law, “is reasonably tolerant and understanding and reasonably contemporary in his or her reactions.”

He found that “[t]he use of an offensive word will not be prima facie offensive. Whether or not the language is offensive will depend on the application of an evaluatory standard after due consideration of the circumstances and the context”.

His Honour found that offensiveness should be limited to “the high end of the range that could be considered ‘offensive,’” as the purpose of section 4 is to protect members of the public from such disturbances, especially around schools.

The impugned word

If Mr Lim’s sandwich board had actually used the word “can’t” in place of the impugned word, it wouldn’t have been offensive, the judge remarked. He explained that it was really only the use of can’t with an upside down “u” on the front of the board that had the potential to cause offence.

In accordance with the case-law, His Honour found that the use of the word “cup cake” is not always offensive, even when said in public. The judge explained that the word is often used as a derogatory expletive to describe a person of any gender, and when it is used in that sense, it’s not being used for “its literal significance.”

“The impugned word is now more prevalent in everyday language than it has previously been,” His Honour continued. He outlined that it has an ancient English origin and even appears in Shakespeare’s Hamlet.

And in Australia, this word is less offensive than in some other English-speaking countries, including the United States.

The judge also remarked that it’s an accepted part of a democracy that politicians and their views are criticised. “That criticism can often extend to personal denigration or perhaps even ridicule.” He continued that there is no reason why the PM should not be treated like others in office.

“The front of the sandwich board is capable of being construed as being clever or light-hearted and thereby removing or reducing the force of the impugned word,” the judge stated. For these reasons, His Honour was not satisfied beyond a reasonable doubt that a reasonable person would be offended.

Freedom of political communication

Judge Scotting found that even if Mr Lim’s conduct was found to be offensive, an argument could be made that his right to freedom of political communication formed a “reasonable excuse”.

He noted that whilst expressing a political comment, Mr Lim “published a play on words that was capable of being construed offensive.”

The judge said that he was not satisfied beyond a reasonable doubt that Mr Lim had committed any offence under section 4 of the Act, and that it was therefore “inappropriate to decide on the issue” [of a reasonable excuse].

Mr Lim’s appeal against conviction was allowed.

http://nswcourts.com.au/articles/court-rules-its-ok-to-refer-to-tony-abbott-as-a-ct/

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Defending another one of your "best people" CNNPT!LOL

I feel sorry for the guy ... just unlucky had a larger vocabulary than the average leftard, who can generally only grunt and say "Fcuk Trump".
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The prosecution doesn't seem to claim that it wasn't a statement of fact that they objected to, so clearly it is just an attack on free speech and truth telling.
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So the moron didnt know the difference between the PM and the Premier ??  LOL  Under those circumstances who would care what he said , since he is plainly an idiot !!
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This is outrageous This is an attack on the very fair dinkumness that FauxMo claims to champion.


You’re a %$#*ing muppet: Race fan fined for abusing Prime Minister at Bathurst 1000

A MAN who accosted Prime Minister Scott Morrison at the Bathurst 1000, calling him a [expletive] muppet, has been convicted and fined $500 for behaving in an offensive manner. 

Tasmanian man Allan Maccaul, 26, of  Woorin Street in Berriedale, did not appear to answer the charges against him last week.

Police facts outlined how Maccaul, a scaffolder, was at Mount Panorama for the races on October 7.

Mr Morrison was also attending the races with his daughter and they were accompanied by police officers attached to the Protections Operations Unit.

That’s the premier [sic], he’s an [expletive] muppet.

The PM was conducting duties in relation to the opening of the Bathurst 1000 race when, at 10.30am, he walked from the rear of Garage 1 in Pit Lane.

He stopped to engage members of the public, shaking their hands and having his photograph taken.

While the PM was doing this, the accused approached him and started yelling at him: “[Expletive], you're a [expletive] muppet, you’re a [expletive] muppet.”

Protection Operations Unit officers approached the accused and introduced themselves and cautioned  him in relation to his language.

Maccaul said “what?”

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Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

I'm with Pammy, and I think I speak for macca too!

What did she say?


   YES YES YES Doc ,      Scott only complimented her beauty,

She is a blonde, we must allow, They get dirty quick ,

If Pamela doesn't do the job , Don't waste your money on Viagra.
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I'm with Pammy, and I think I speak for macca too!

What did she say?
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Pamela Anderson slams 'smutty' PM for rejecting Assange calls

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Which may be right ... we are still part of the "Paris Climate Parasites Agreement" ... for now.Ouch
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What he said was:

''The truth is … the Liberal Party and the Coalition is not capable of dealing with climate change''
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Turnbull at it again.       Says the Liberal Party is bad for the Climate Change movement.

Vested Interest he has , with Family at least getting the Government subsidies for investing in renewables.

He needs a trip to a vet.     They put a lot of dogs down.                            
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Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

Folks it's been a bit quiet here, but believe me Macca, oneone and the Doc will be back and firing very shortly.  Indeed not long after the Happy Hour and meat raffle finish at their local RSL Club.  Wink  


And right on cue the Doc's back bigger and unsurprisingly less than better.  Big smile

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      I only just woke from my Granny Nap .

   AND it's still NO S.C        > I sleep much better on my own.
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and so are youLOL
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Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

Folks it's been a bit quiet here, but believe me Macca, oneone and the Doc will be back and firing very shortly.  Indeed not long after the Happy Hour and meat raffle finish at their local RSL Club.  Wink  

And right on cue the Doc's back bigger and unsurprisingly less than better.  Big smile

Dunno about the others.



 
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Originally posted by Isaac soloman Isaac soloman wrote:

Originally posted by rusty nails rusty nails wrote:

Hahaha,
Ouch!
The poor old finger painters short/medium term memory is shot.
And clearly has no concept of logic.
He conceded earlier that he didn’t understand maths,when he admitted he didn’t know how to calculate a profit.
Now he reverts to playing pigeon chess, he knocks over the pieces,craps on the board then flies away claiming victory......
#Sad

Wacko rust you let yourself down....

I don't know if that is true Isaac.

If his objective is to say something stupid in every post, he is an unqualified success ...Wacko
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Folks it's been a bit quiet here, but believe me Macca, oneone and the Doc will be back and firing very shortly.

Indeed not long after the Happy Hour and meat raffle finish at their local RSL Club.  Wink
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Originally posted by rusty nails rusty nails wrote:

Hahaha,
Ouch!
The poor old finger painters short/medium term memory is shot.
And clearly has no concept of logic.
He conceded earlier that he didn’t understand maths,when he admitted he didn’t know how to calculate a profit.
Now he reverts to playing pigeon chess, he knocks over the pieces,craps on the board then flies away claiming victory......
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Wacko rust you let yourself down....
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Hahaha,
Ouch!
The poor old finger painters short/medium term memory is shot.
And clearly has no concept of logic.
He conceded earlier that he didn’t understand maths,when he admitted he didn’t know how to calculate a profit.
Now he reverts to playing pigeon chess, he knocks over the pieces,craps on the board then flies away claiming victory......
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Originally posted by Isaac soloman Isaac soloman wrote:

pt and his mates wouldnt know what a decent set of figures looked like.

lets face it rusts reveal of his wagering prowess during the american elections case in point.

Oh trust me Isaac, CNNPT recognises a good set of figures (the mini mes have NFI), and what the US and Australian economies are doing - going ahead in leaps and bounds as a result of embracing and supporting Capitalism, and the push back against Socialism - is eating at him like a cancer!LOL 
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Originally posted by Isaac soloman Isaac soloman wrote:

Originally posted by rusty nails rusty nails wrote:

Oh dear, large font in pink in successive posts.
Someone’s just woken up with a full nappy.......

the pile of vile aka rust has responded in his usual manner....
Isaac, I really couldn't care less about rusty's piss poor punting, or his mindless jibberish, or his lack of understanding of mathematical concepts, or his general belligerence, or his inability to come up with an opposing opinion on any subject that has even a modicum of relevance, research or facts ... I just wish he would get some new material when it comes to his inane insults!

All you get is the same blah, blah, blah "finger paint", blah, blah, blah "nappy", over and over and over ... in fact if you took that out of his voicabulary the moron would be mute!LOL 
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pt and his mates wouldnt know what a decent set of figures looked like.

lets face it rusts reveal of his wagering prowess during the american elections case in point.
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Originally posted by rusty nails rusty nails wrote:

Oh dear, large font in pink in successive posts.
Someone’s just woken up with a full nappy.......

the pile of vile aka rust has responded in his usual manner....
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Someone’s just woken up with a full nappy.......
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