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    Posted: 01 Nov 2012 at 6:57am

 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA LOL

 can see where Quez keeps his winnings...Embarrassed

 
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Originally posted by Crash Crash wrote:

Originally posted by Quezacotl Quezacotl wrote:

Some thongs will always remain solid criteria, but thee are also many new that need to be accounted for and....there would be many that need to be dumped after time also...


You still wearing them Quez LOL LOL LOL


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Originally posted by Quezacotl Quezacotl wrote:

Some thongs will always remain solid criteria, but thee are also many new that need to be accounted for and....there would be many that need to be dumped after time also...


You still wearing them Quez LOL LOL LOL
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Originally posted by Quezacotl Quezacotl wrote:

Congratulations on resisting the temptation to post in your usual girly bold text.

 
little digs like this will not get you banned, but it also will not get me to bite either Big smileWink
 
 
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Thanks Allan, I had issues with some corps a couple years ago & swore off them, maybe will give one you mention a go.
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Congratulations on resisting the temptation to post in your usual girly bold text.

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Originally posted by Quezacotl Quezacotl wrote:

Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

I would never use GTX,couldn't afford it anyway Stern Smile,but I find bigal's explanation of his modus operandi to be a fascinating read,keep it coming.



Afford....???
Fascinating..???

Enter your own parameters into your own data base and it's done...thats all any analyst does, why would anyone have to buy an expensive program when you have a million freeware data base's out there on line is anyone's guess...

I bet new and tweaked parameters need ro be entered into regularly if you are to stay on top, there is NO such thing as a set and forget winning system....what is so fascinating...? The data ?


i run 7 systems, and i have not changed them since april 2005!!!!! they ARE set and forget!!!!

i had one system that was "too simple" in it's rules, tried to tweak it, but chucked the system out!!


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Originally posted by norisk norisk wrote:

Originally posted by norisk norisk wrote:

bigal, serious question if you please - which corp(s) do you win with that have not limited or banned you?

no?

mkay...

sorry no risk, i did not see your initial post.

now....the only one that does not have some sort of restriction on me is Unibet, but i have only been betting there again in the last month or so.
 centrebet is quite good but sometimes they will not take a full bet from me.

sportingbet now allow me to bet with them without restriction, although i have not tested the water in a big way as i have only placed $250 bets with them and all have been accepted.

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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

"unusual again.... 2 bets tonight and just one bet all weekend!!."

How many races were considered to get the 3 betting races, Big Al?

all races every day are considered a betting proposition!!...

so yes just 3 bets in 3 days for my big bets...then a 4th on the tuesday. 3 of them won. so i would rather be backing 4 horses and back winners than back 50 horses and still only get 3 winners!!. (unless they were 50-1 winners)

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Originally posted by norisk norisk wrote:

bigal, serious question if you please - which corp(s) do you win with that have not limited or banned you?

no?

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  fascinating reading, especially Big Al's contribution....just highlights the different way some of us view racing and punting...

 I couldn't just use a computer system...spoils the fun and too restrictive...

 I'll back a horse of any age...as you all know....

 on Monday on Can of Worms they broached the subject of advertising betting sites...

 even as a long-time punter I think it's wrong...

 
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Originally posted by Quezacotl Quezacotl wrote:

Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

I would never use GTX,couldn't afford it anyway Stern Smile,but I find bigal's explanation of his modus operandi to be a fascinating read,keep it coming.



Afford....???
Fascinating..???

Enter your own parameters into your own data base and it's done...thats all any analyst does, why would anyone have to buy an expensive program when you have a million freeware data base's out there on line is anyone's guess...

I bet new and tweaked parameters need ro be entered into regularly if you are to stay on top, there is NO such thing as a set and forget winning system....what is so fascinating...? The data ?


That's fine,he has proved himself to be a successful punter,you are the opposite,so I think I will continue listening to what he says
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Some thongs will always remain solid criteria, but thee are also many new that need to be accounted for and....there would be many that need to be dumped after time also...
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exactly Max Manewer..    We live in the world of fast pace and short cuts .  My  early days of expensive video [ came later ]  Index cards and pay a lady to update and prepare the fields cards when the Sporsman came off the press at Surrey Hills . 2 hr round train trip to get it .    lol , how the world has changed .
     Don't watch the races ,   get to a position where they pull up .     Make notes of how they "blew" up .
 Fitness guide for the future .       Clock the sectionals from the $60 video replay for 2 meetings .
     You young uns" have got an easy world . lol
 One thing I can assure you of .   Todays variables and the WFA scale have stood the test of time .
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Originally posted by Quezacotl Quezacotl wrote:

Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

I would never use GTX,couldn't afford it anyway Stern Smile,but I find bigal's explanation of his modus operandi to be a fascinating read,keep it coming.



Afford....???
Fascinating..???

Enter your own parameters into your own data base and it's done...thats all any analyst does, why would anyone have to buy an expensive program when you have a million freeware data base's out there on line is anyone's guess...

I bet new and tweaked parameters need ro be entered into regularly if you are to stay on top, there is NO such thing as a set and forget winning system....what is so fascinating...? The data ?

That depends on how much time you want to spend entering data into the free data base engine. If it going to involve a lot a time, that would rule that option out for most people, and there are of lot of race meeting results and parameters.
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Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

I would never use GTX,couldn't afford it anyway Stern Smile,but I find bigal's explanation of his modus operandi to be a fascinating read,keep it coming.



Afford....???
Fascinating..???

Enter your own parameters into your own data base and it's done...thats all any analyst does, why would anyone have to buy an expensive program when you have a million freeware data base's out there on line is anyone's guess...

I bet new and tweaked parameters need ro be entered into regularly if you are to stay on top, there is NO such thing as a set and forget winning system....what is so fascinating...? The data ?

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"unusual again.... 2 bets tonight and just one bet all weekend!!."

How many races were considered to get the 3 betting races, Big Al?
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I am actually running a spreadsheet at the moment on every Saturday metro winner with details on every aspect of the of the horse (including age, # of starts, winning % ect), its previous runs, position in running, weight ect. I don't have any great plan what I will do with the info just want to see it it throws out some common variables.
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Thank you James .      Nice of you .
   Many people need the foundations and from there they make their own way.    No one is trying to claim they know everything.   I am still learning after a lifetime of trying.     I may add , this Forum is a great University if it is allowed to function properly.
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Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:

Macca, happy to have a discussion with people, just choose not to have discussions with those that type in extra large capitals, and different colours etc. I don't need anyone shouting at me as to how good they are. I especially don't think I can learn anything from a guy that admits he does no form, watches no replays, and all he does is use a computer system that he paid for. Sorry, but that isn't for me.
 
   Thats another subject and i understand .     To each our own and I don't think Al has ever claimed originality about anything .     
 Just he is together , prepared to try and help etc .
   lol   Actually I have never interested myself in breeding , couldnt care what their by or out of .
  Others use breeding in their choices  , big time .
   We are all different ...     This age thing isn't new . I think it was James I made mentioned  it to awhile back .    Plenty of variables .      I like to see them discussed.
 Yes along with some other extremely helpful advice. Cheers Macca.
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Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

I would never use GTX,couldn't afford it anyway Stern Smile,but I find bigal's explanation of his modus operandi to be a fascinating read,keep it coming.
 
Well put whale and with the main variables being disclosed you wouldn't need a GTX.
   Like you ,  I love to read productive input .      I appreciate the people kind enough to be helping .
 Also like you .... Keep it coming      Big smile
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I would never use GTX,couldn't afford it anyway Stern Smile,but I find bigal's explanation of his modus operandi to be a fascinating read,keep it coming.
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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

What percentage of MC winners in the last 20 years have been 4yos?
       The penny doesn't drop aye ...     What has the M>C got to do with an average overall on racing .
  FYI ..    4 and 5 year olds win most CUPS ...        6+7 a few ...   older 0.
 What Al  does in working out his Systems is no different to what the rest of us do .  each week .
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      Maybe the Village will improve big time from now on regarding trolling , abuse and the like . All are on notice and consequences deeper than most would think . We have all been told .
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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

What percentage of MC winners in the last 20 years have been 4yos?

exactly my point....it is rare for me to have a bet in the melbourne cup as i mainly back 2 to 4 year olds across the board.

i can certainly tell you how many have won in the last 20 years ethereal, might and power, saintly and subzero, efficient and shocking.


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bigal, serious question if you please - which corp(s) do you win with that have not limited or banned you?
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What percentage of MC winners in the last 20 years have been 4yos?
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Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:

Macca, happy to have a discussion with people, just choose not to have discussions with those that type in extra large capitals, and different colours etc. I don't need anyone shouting at me as to how good they are. I especially don't think I can learn anything from a guy that admits he does no form, watches no replays, and all he does is use a computer system that he paid for. Sorry, but that isn't for me.

Subby,

i don't know if you know about GTX from the ratings bureau. but basically with GTX you get a blank canvass as far as systems go. you have to work on it to get any winning edge. i actually spent about 2,500 hours working on systems to get to where i am now. so now i simply sit back, run the systems in the morning and back them. the extremely hard work to get my winners was done in 2004!!!!. i have been backing my GTX selections since april 2005. but i "work" on systems still virtually every day i have a look. 
i have seen about 20 others try GTX and 18 of them have gone no-where and have given up, now that is a pretty bad attrition rate.

sorry if my capitals and my colours also upset you, i will try to limit same.


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[QUOTE=bigal]<div style="text-align: left;">hi,<div style="text-align: left;">
<div style="text-align: left;">lets try again.....<div style="text-align: left;">
<div style="text-align: left;">are you saying that you ONLY back 7 year olds???? in group races????..... or UP TO 7 year olds??<div style="text-align: left;">
<div style="text-align: left;">allan


 
No up to 7yr olds, my records show that horses older then 7 win less than 10% of races in Metro. You probably run off the same sort of thing as 4-5yr olds would win a fair percentage. I also take into account winning% as winners keep winning and no matter how good they look running flashy 3rds and 4ths losers keep losing.



What % of horses in metro races are older than 7 [/QUOTE

Of course there is fewer hussler, but that stat is runners to winner's not just winners overall
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Originally posted by Group 1 Selections Group 1 Selections wrote:


Originally posted by bigal bigal wrote:

<div style="text-align: left;">hi,<div style="text-align: left;">
<div style="text-align: left;">lets try again.....<div style="text-align: left;">
<div style="text-align: left;">are you saying that you ONLY back 7 year olds???? in group races????..... or UP TO 7 year olds??<div style="text-align: left;">
<div style="text-align: left;">allan


 
No up to 7yr olds, my records show that horses older then 7 win less than 10% of races in Metro. You probably run off the same sort of thing as 4-5yr olds would win a fair percentage. I also take into account winning% as winners keep winning and no matter how good they look running flashy 3rds and 4ths losers keep losing.



What % of horses in metro races are older than 7
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I back 10 year olds if i think they are the horse to beat

I back horses who are trying to win a double for example even if it has not been done in 800 years or coming from some a lead up race which has never produced a winner for a particular race. 

Rules of racing are KISS keep it simple stupid! 


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