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    Posted: 19 Apr 2019 at 2:52pm
TOO DARN HOT (GB)Bay colt 2016 
Dubawi
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Dubai Millennium
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Seeking the Gold
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Mr Prospector
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Raise a Native
Gold Digger
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Con Game
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Broadway
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1959
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5-c
Colorado Dancer
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Shareef Dancer
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Northern Dancer
Sweet Alliance
1961
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Pretense
Change Water
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1969
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Deploy
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Shirley Heights
Bay 1975
Mill Reef
Hardiemma
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1969
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Slightly Dangerous
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Roberto
Where You Lead
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Jawaher
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Dancing Brave
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Lyphard
Navajo Princess
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High Tern
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Dar Re Mi
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In the Wings
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Ballade
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Pretty Lady
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Golden rule is to do what's right for Too Darn Hot, says Gosden
By Andy Stephens
Thu 18 Apr 2019

John Gosden reiterated on Racing TV on Thursday that Too Darn Hot’s participation in the QIPCO 2000 Guineas hinges on weekend discussions with his owners.

The champion trainer said last season’s outstanding two-year-old was doing “a whole lot better” eight days on from some heat being found in a splint bone but time is against him with only 16 days until the first Classic of the season.

Gosden will consult with Andrew and Madeleine Lloyd-Webber before announcing whether to stick with Plan A and commit to the Guineas or revert to Plan B and determine alternative assignments.

The latter option would give him no pleasure, not least because the 2000 Guineas remains a notable omission on his CV. Rerouting his star would bring further complications, having to choose perhaps between the Irish 2000 Guineas or a Derby trial.

Too Darn Hot, unbeaten in four starts as a juvenile, was odds-on last week to belatedly give the champion trainer a first 2000 Guineas triumph but is available at 4-1 with Betfairand Paddy Power. On the Betfair betting exchange, at about 10pm, he was available to back at almost 9-1.

“When you train for any race, let alone the Guineas, you need to have a clear run-in of at least two weeks,” Gosden told Lydia Hislop. “You cannot go there half on the backfoot, it doesn’t work.

“He’s doing a whole lot better, it [the splint] has cooled down nicely. When you get an interruption like he's had I have to work out if I can the right amount of work into him and I’ll discuss it with the owners over the weekend.

“The key thing is to be making a decision two weeks ahead of the race. It’s fairer to everyone else who has runners in the race and fairer to the people trying to bet on the race.

“What you don’t want is someone oohing and aahing up to the 48-hour declaration stage – that’s no good to anyone.

“We’ll talk over weekend and make a decision one way or the other, and then move on.”

Gosden then expanded on Too Darn Hot’s level of fitness.

“He would have been going into Newbury (at Newbury last Saturday) at 90 per cent. It was a trial and he wasn’t fully wound up.

“I’ve obviously slipped a bit since then with the time off he’s had. I want to discuss it with them [the owners] and make the decision far enough in advance so that it gives the horse every chance.

“The golden rule is to you do what’s right for the horse.”

The Lloyd-Webbers must wonder what they have done to offend the racing Gods. So Mi Dar, the dam of Too Darn Hot, was well fancied for the Oaks in 2009 but missed the race in freak circumstances after being spooked by the sound of a lawnmower and suffering an injury.

Her daughters, So Mi Dar and Lah Ti Dar also missed their intended respective runs in the Oaks when leading fancies.

So Mi Dar was scratched because of lameness in 2016 and last year, Lah Ti Dar was ruled out by a bad blood test.


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No English Guineas. Looking at either the Dante or the Irish Guineas
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Will try to make amends in the G1 Irish 2000 Guineas today at The Curragh although I think Magna Grecia will have the better of him.

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Phoenix of Spain wins comfortably from Too Darn Hot.Magna Grecia unplaced
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Too Darn Hot scores his first win as a three year old in the Gp1 Prix Jean Prat. I didn't realise they had changed the distance of this race to 1400m instead of 1600m.

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Too Darn Hot has sired his first stakeswinner with Fallen Angel (2f Too Darn Hot x Agnes Stewart, by Lawman) scoring impressively in the Gp3 Sweet Solera Stakes at Newmarket.

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There's another one. Darnation (2f Too Darn Hot x Monday Monday, by Galileo) has won the Gp3 Prestige Stakes at Goodwood.

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Originally posted by Grey Affair Grey Affair wrote:

Too Darn Hot has sired his first stakeswinner with Fallen Angel (2f Too Darn Hot x Agnes Stewart, by Lawman) scoring impressively in the Gp3 Sweet Solera Stakes at Newmarket.



Fallen Angel has just won the Gp1 Moyglare Stud Stakes for 2yo fillies over 7 furlongs at the Curragh giving Too Darn Hot his 1st Gp1 winner.

 
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Originally posted by Grey Affair Grey Affair wrote:

There's another one. Darnation (2f Too Darn Hot x Monday Monday, by Galileo) has won the Gp3 Prestige Stakes at Goodwood.



Darnation just scored a strong win in the Gp2 May Hill Stakes for 2yo fillies over a mile at Doncaster. She was challenged by See The Fire but fought her off & drew away over the final furlong. Should make a nice 3yo.


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A quinella to the progeny of Too Darn Hot in the Gp3 Tattersalls Stakes for 2yos over 7 furlongs at Newmarket. The race was won by Alyanaabi (2c Too Darn Hot x Alyamaama, by Kitten's Joy) who was well back in the field with a wall of horses in front of him but when he got clear absolutely flew to just catch Boiling Point (2c Too Darn Hot x Lady Momoka, by Shamardal).

More will be heard of Alyanaabi.


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