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    Posted: 07 Mar 2019 at 9:44am
Do you pay for services to help your punting? Have you assessed their Return On Investment and Profit on Turnover (POT%) and have you deducted the costs of the service off your profit line?
I am happy to assess any service (or already have) for free here on the village to ensure it has 100% accountability of results and don't use "best price" etc in results.
If I don't have the review handy I can check the quality of the service via a Five Star rating system of value for money.
I will not recommend any service - just provide the POT% and fees so you can choose. Services that provide no results obviously get no stars as you can be 100% assured they are already making big losses.
Most of the services I have assessed have now closed, but we have a range of new ones now (same people, different badge).

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Red Hare Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Mar 2019 at 11:14am
Would love to see your assessment of Tom’s service - in whole and by ‘package’.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tajrossi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Mar 2019 at 12:26pm
The "Gold" package is probably the best indicator here for the somewhat desperate Tom Waterhouse. The results are not very accountable on a per bet basis but we have found the results accurate month by month which is essential for any repeat business. The Profit on Turnover is 14.1% but dont forget you need to deduct over 4100 per month fee off that figure, so if you are a $50 punter it will smash your profit % quickly....BUT...the biggest issue is the results are based on the BEST price on offer and at time of posting! This is madness as these BEST prices are set ups and dont last. It would be very easy to lose long time with these results and I would rate the service 2 stars. Even the 14% is a bit thin compared to some results from cheaper services.
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The "Best Bets" package only has 60 bets for the past 12 months and has made a good start. We need to see around 500 bets prior to judgement. Results again based on getting Best price!
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What a blast from the past! Long time, no see & welcome back Taj Hug
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Approve Yep - been a long time, but see there are still a handful of the old mob here but we've sadly lost some old friends along the path of life
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Tajrossi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Mar 2019 at 4:01pm
Thanks Whale - Interesting template for assessing services. I would have thought that 100% accountable long term results would rate highest as who really knows otherwise unless you pay and trial yourself for a year or more
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Winning Edge Investments  - owner / tipster known or made known = yes

Total Rating  = 83 - Good to Excellent although there are some better POT% about than 13%
History of the service2 points for every year the service has been running (max 20 points).10
Service Profit on Turnover (POT)2 points for every % POT (max 20 points).20
Odds taken vs recorded oddsYou get the odds:
* <85% (0 points)
* 85% - 100% (5 points)
* approx 100% (10 points)
* approx 100% and sometimes beat recorded odds (15 points)
* often beat recorded odds (20 points).
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Bookmaker availabilityBookmaker required for tips are available to you (1-10, with 10 being entirely satisfied).10
Market depthMarket has enough depth to bet your desired amounts (1-10, 10 being entirely satisfied).10
Customer serviceResponsive to emails and general service housekeeping e.g. updating results (1-10, 10 being entirely satisfied).8
Effort requiredNumber of bets and convenient release time for tips (1-10, where 10 is minimal effort).
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Horse Miller - known to industry/accountable. Only operation new rates 61 - average/high risk/watch
History of the service2 points for every year the service has been running (max 20 points).2
Service Profit on Turnover (POT)2 points for every % POT (max 20 points).20
Odds taken vs recorded oddsYou get the odds:
* <85% (0 points)
* 85% - 100% (5 points)
* approx 100% (10 points)
* approx 100% and sometimes beat recorded odds (15 points)
* often beat recorded odds (20 points).
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Bookmaker availabilityBookmaker required for tips are available to you (1-10, with 10 being entirely satisfied).8
Market depthMarket has enough depth to bet your desired amounts (1-10, 10 being entirely satisfied).10
Customer serviceResponsive to emails and general service housekeeping e.g. updating results (1-10, 10 being entirely satisfied).6
Effort requiredNumber of bets and convenient release time for tips (1-10, where 10 is minimal effort).10
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Still going
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I wouldn't trust horse Miller with stolen money
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Originally posted by correctweight correctweight wrote:

I wouldn't trust horse Miller with stolen money

That you Snowy? Tongue
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Greaves/aspinall racing was the duck nuts once upon a time. Are they still going ?
" In gambling the many must lose in order for the few to win"
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Not that I can find
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Just a lot slower these days Tige
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