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Originally posted by rusty nails rusty nails wrote:

Originally posted by Shammy Davis Shammy Davis wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

These Central Americans didn't need any military or border security experience to use a hack saw Shammy. Wink

Steel slat #FAIL



x 10.

Walls can be repaired. Ever hear of welding? Reinforce concrete? Better than dead border patrol agent, don't you think? Or don't you care. Don't be ignorant. Walls, high fences, barriers, and concertina work. It saves lives.

Hate to bring up unsettling history but remember the Berlin Wall?

Walls work.

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Dead border patrol agents?
How many?
When? . . .


In Memoriam to Those Who Died in the Line of Duty
U.S. Customs and Border Protection

     
Name
End of Watch
Rogelio Martinez     November 19, 2017
Isaac Morales     May 24, 2017
David Gomez     November 16, 2016
Manuel A. Alvarez     August 11, 2016
Jose D. Barraza     April 18, 2016
Tyler R. Robledo     September 12, 2014
Javier Vega, Jr.     August 3, 2014
Alexander I. Giannini     May 28, 2014
Darrell J. Windhaus     December 29, 2013
David R. Delaney     November 2, 2012
Nicholas J. Ivie     October 2, 2012
Jeffrey Ramirez     September 15, 2012
James R. Dominguez     July 19, 2012
Leopoldo Cavazos Jr.     July 6, 2012
Eduardo Rojas Jr.     May 12, 2011
Hector R. Clark     May 12, 2011
Brian A. Terry     December 15, 2010
John R. Zykas     September 8, 2010
Michael V. Gallagher     September 2, 2010
Charles F. Collins II     August 15, 2010
Mark F. Van Doren     May 24, 2010
Trena R. McLaughlin     September 14, 2009
Robert W. Rosas Jr.     July 23, 2009
Cruz C. McGuire     May 21, 2009
Nathaniel A. Afolayan     May 1, 2009
Jarod C. Dittman     March 30, 2008
Luis Aguilar     January 19, 2008
Julio E. Baray     September 24, 2007
Eric Cabral     July 26, 2007
Robert F. Smith     May 22, 2007
Richard Goldstein     May 11, 2007
Clint B. Thrasher     April 25, 2007
David J. Tourscher     March 16, 2007
Ramon Nevarez Jr.     March 15, 2007
David N. Webb     November 3, 2006
Nicholas D. Greenig     March 14, 2006
George B. DeBates     December 19, 2004
Travis W. Attaway     September 19, 2004
Jeremy M. Wilson     September 19, 2004
James P. Epling     December 16, 2003
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Dear Shammy please refrain from negative comment directed at me, and the spamming of the fabulous new Trump Achievement thread.

I wont be posting in there unless I can identify something positive he has done that benefits all Americans(not the shrinking 32% base) and/or the rest of the western world. Maybe when this nightmare is over the results of that thread will be recorded on a postage stamp.

I know you and little stayer(especially on Friday night) think it is all about me(everything is right?), but it was done in good faith to offer you beleaguered pearl clutching Trumpers a safe space to laud dear leader. It is all about peace and love and all things Donald. Heart Hug
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Yes tell us about the Berlin Wall. How is going? As Nancy said, walls were not what American German people were about so they ripped it down and it is still a symbol of a very bad time in Europe.



I thought the Berlin Wall separated West Germany and East Germany?

Is Mexico formally recognised as a state of the United States of America?
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Why didn't they build a 30 ft high concrete wall?
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Because Hungarians are the smartest people in the world.
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Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

I think Trump's a piece of ####. But far higher up the rung than Hillary. I don't know if I've ever said anything positive about Trump, but you're the guy who trawls through posts. Let me know.

PT is obviously paranoid. Sometimes I feel bad for taking tbe pizz out of a guy with issues. Sometimes I don't.

The "brotherhood of man" comment was contemptuous, yes. Pfft. "Some sense of fairness" won't help anyone. Geez I'm sure even Donald still has that left in him.


Of course that doesn't compare to attending church , nothing like being in the company of pious hypocrites Wink

I would go but too many pedo's hanging around the place Ouch
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Cryin Chuck told his favorite lie when he used his standard sound bite that I “slammed the table & walked out of the room. He had a temper tantrum.” Because I knew he would say that, and after Nancy said no to proper Border Security, I politely said bye-bye and left, no slamming!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 10, 2019

He later elaborated on events, telling reporters in Texas: “I don’t have temper tantrums.”


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Well its about time. We are finally discussing the real potential of building a wall to significantly reduce the numbers. Only taken 800 pages . Stop the sniggering & ask yourself how you & your family would go scaling a vertical wall with motion sensors, camera , barb wire, anti-climbing devices, 2m below ground that cannot be easily tunneled through, drones flying above & patrol officers in or near the vicinity with rifles all designed to deter the attempt. I've seen bigger wastes of money. Just ask Tim Flannery 
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From senior adviser Kellyanne Conway's husband. He is a very prominent Conservative Constitutional lawyer and lifelong Federalist.

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Originally posted by Shammy Davis Shammy Davis wrote:

Originally posted by rusty nails rusty nails wrote:

Originally posted by Shammy Davis Shammy Davis wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

These Central Americans didn't need any military or border security experience to use a hack saw Shammy. Wink

Steel slat #FAIL



x 10.

Walls can be repaired. Ever hear of welding? Reinforce concrete? Better than dead border patrol agent, don't you think? Or don't you care. Don't be ignorant. Walls, high fences, barriers, and concertina work. It saves lives.

Hate to bring up unsettling history but remember the Berlin Wall?

Walls work.

Related image

Dead border patrol agents?
How many?
When? . . .


In Memoriam to Those Who Died in the Line of Duty
U.S. Customs and Border Protection

       
Name
End of Watch
Rogelio Martinez     November 19, 2017
Isaac Morales     May 24, 2017
David Gomez     November 16, 2016
Manuel A. Alvarez     August 11, 2016
Jose D. Barraza     April 18, 2016
Tyler R. Robledo     September 12, 2014
Javier Vega, Jr.     August 3, 2014
Alexander I. Giannini     May 28, 2014
Darrell J. Windhaus     December 29, 2013
David R. Delaney     November 2, 2012
Nicholas J. Ivie     October 2, 2012
Jeffrey Ramirez     September 15, 2012
James R. Dominguez     July 19, 2012
Leopoldo Cavazos Jr.     July 6, 2012
Eduardo Rojas Jr.     May 12, 2011
Hector R. Clark     May 12, 2011
Brian A. Terry     December 15, 2010
John R. Zykas     September 8, 2010
Michael V. Gallagher     September 2, 2010
Charles F. Collins II     August 15, 2010
Mark F. Van Doren     May 24, 2010
Trena R. McLaughlin     September 14, 2009
Robert W. Rosas Jr.     July 23, 2009
Cruz C. McGuire     May 21, 2009
Nathaniel A. Afolayan     May 1, 2009
Jarod C. Dittman     March 30, 2008
Luis Aguilar     January 19, 2008
Julio E. Baray     September 24, 2007
Eric Cabral     July 26, 2007
Robert F. Smith     May 22, 2007
Richard Goldstein     May 11, 2007
Clint B. Thrasher     April 25, 2007
David J. Tourscher     March 16, 2007
Ramon Nevarez Jr.     March 15, 2007
David N. Webb     November 3, 2006
Nicholas D. Greenig     March 14, 2006
George B. DeBates     December 19, 2004
Travis W. Attaway     September 19, 2004
Jeremy M. Wilson     September 19, 2004
James P. Epling     December 16, 2003

So, on average 2 or 3 a year.
There’s on average about 150 police killed in the line of duty each year, that’s what you need to address, not some ridiculous wall at a cost of $25B.
Hand in your guns Shammy !
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Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Well its about time. We are finally discussing the real potential of building a wall to significantly reduce the numbers. Only taken 800 pages . Stop the sniggering & ask yourself how you & your family would go scaling a vertical wall with motion sensors, camera , barb wire, anti-climbing devices, 2m below ground that cannot be easily tunneled through, drones flying above & patrol officers in or near the vicinity with rifles all designed to deter the attempt. I've seen bigger wastes of money. Just ask Tim Flannery 

Falling dams trigger Sydney desalination plant

Sydney’s falling dam levels are set to activate the city’s $1.8 billion desalination plant, dormant since it was built in 2010, for the first time later this week.

The levels of several capital city dams continue to fall at rapid rates, as experts call for desalination and water-restriction measures to be brought in earlier.

Dam levels in Sydney were yesterday 0.4 per cent above the 60 per cent level that triggers the switch-on order for the desalination plant. Levels have fallen 0.6 per cent since last week, more than 23 per cent in the year.


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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Dear Shammy . . .It is all about peace and love and all things Donald. Heart Hug


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What have I missed here?
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You miss a great deal, it seems Shammy.Embarrassed
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Never been actually used in 9 years since it was built at a cost of 2 billion. Since then on-going costs of 200 million a year to maintain it. This will increase to 300 million/yr if it is ever actually used. All passed on to the water rates of course. Takes months to get it ready to actually get going - by which time the dams have always filled up again. 60% full without any restrictions is still a fair chunk of water isn't it ? The total cost of the 6 major desalination plants around Aust would be similar in cost if built today as Donald's wall. Keeping maintenance engineers employed i suppose
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Gladys wants ir turned on. Reality over politics.

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This will be a very important case. 

Families of Sandy Hook shooting victims win legal victory in lawsuit against InfoWars, Alex Jones

Jan 11, 2019, 2:49 PM ET

Six families of victims killed at Sandy Hook Elementary School won a legal victory Friday in their fight against controversial radio and internet personality Alex Jones.

A judge in Connecticut has granted the families’ discovery requests, allowing them access to, among other things, Infowars’ internal marketing and financial documents.
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Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

Mr Trump will probably be what the world needs.
 
   Says it as it is and up yours .
 
  Will be interesting to see what all the knockers have to say in a years time .
Safely say NOTHINGS changed Macca. He is still POTUS
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Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

Mr Trump will probably be what the world needs.
 
   Says it as it is and up yours .
 
  Will be interesting to see what all the knockers have to say in a years time .
Safely say NOTHINGS changed Macca. He is still POTUS
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Anyone actually tried rereading this thread from page 1 ? I did - got to page 7 & had to give up.
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Never been actually used in 9 years since it was built at a cost of 2 billion. Since then on-going costs of 200 million a year to maintain it. This will increase to 300 million/yr if it is ever actually used. All passed on to the water rates of course. Takes months to get it ready to actually get going - by which time the dams have always filled up again. 60% full without any restrictions is still a fair chunk of water isn't it ? The total cost of the 6 major desalination plants around Aust would be similar in cost if built today as Donald's wall. Keeping maintenance engineers employed i suppose



Greens MP John Kaye, who has previously described the plant at Kurnell as a "white elephant", which has never produced a drop of desalinated water outside testing, has called for it to be permanently mothballed, as he believes there is no likelihood of it being needed in the forseeable future.

"Even the things that I believe in the most, I doubt.”
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

You miss a great deal, it seems Shammy.Embarrassed


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Now I know what I missed. Your proclaimation of peace and love.
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Just building bridges Shammy. Handshake

Giving you Trumpers somewhere else to laud the great man and everything he has done.
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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Never been actually used in 9 years since it was built at a cost of 2 billion. Since then on-going costs of 200 million a year to maintain it. This will increase to 300 million/yr if it is ever actually used. All passed on to the water rates of course. Takes months to get it ready to actually get going - by which time the dams have always filled up again. 60% full without any restrictions is still a fair chunk of water isn't it ? The total cost of the 6 major desalination plants around Aust would be similar in cost if built today as Donald's wall. Keeping maintenance engineers employed i suppose



Greens MP John Kaye, who has previously described the plant at Kurnell as a "white elephant", which has never produced a drop of desalinated water outside testing, has called for it to be permanently mothballed, as he believes there is no likelihood of it being needed in the forseeable future.

Yes - interesting history. Bob Carr apparently was originally the politician who ticked it off in 2005. And Mrs Keneally took the accolades when first commissioned in 2010. The funny thing is as well as never producing a drop of water for public use - the project was submitted for the 2011 Australian Construction Award - & was winner of the Global Water Awards in Berlin in the same year as the best new Desalination Plant in the world. Fast forward to Dec 2017 & the plant is almost destroyed due to storm damage. The damage is still trying to be fixed as of now (multi millions being spent to do so). So here we are critical of these new high rise building projects (eg Opal) due to dodgy design/workmanship & our state of the art SINGLE level Desal plant gets destroyed by a poxy storm. Where's Bob & Kristina now ? Deary me !
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Just building bridges Shammy. Handshake

Giving you Trumpers somewhere else to laud the great man and everything he has done.
One thread is more than enough to prove my point. 753 pages and you haven't been able to prove yours, so I'm very comfortable here.

Besides, it is fun to watch you regurgitate fake news like it is fact. Nice try though, but I figure Stayer, Scamanda, and Maxie haven't been fooled either by your diversionary tactic.
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Originally posted by Shammy Davis Shammy Davis wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Just building bridges Shammy. Handshake

Giving you Trumpers somewhere else to laud the great man and everything he has done.
One thread is more than enough to prove my point. 753 pages and you haven't been able to prove yours, so I'm very comfortable here.

Besides, it is fun to watch you regurgitate fake news like it is fact. Nice try though, but I figure Stayer, Scamanda, and Maxie haven't been fooled either by your diversionary tactic.


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BREAKING

F.B.I. Opened Inquiry Into Whether Trump Was Secretly Working on Behalf of Russia

WASHINGTON — In the days after President Trump fired James B. Comey as F.B.I. director, law enforcement officials became so concerned by the president’s behavior that they began investigating whether he had been working on behalf of Russia against American interests, according to former law enforcement officials and others familiar with the investigation.

The inquiry carried explosive implications. Counterintelligence investigators had to consider whether the president’s own actions constituted a possible threat to national security. Agents also sought to determine whether Mr. Trump was knowingly working for Russia or had unwittingly fallen under Moscow’s influence.

The investigation the F.B.I. opened into Mr. Trump also had a criminal aspect, which has long been publicly known: whether his firing of Mr. Comey constituted obstruction of justice.

Agents and senior F.B.I. officials had grown suspicious of Mr. Trump’s ties to Russia during the 2016 campaign but held off on opening an investigation into him, the people said, in part because they were uncertain how to proceed with an inquiry of such sensitivity and magnitude. But the president’s activities before and after Mr. Comey’s firing in May 2017, particularly twoinstances in which Mr. Trump tied the Comey dismissal to the Russia investigation, helped prompt the counterintelligence aspect of the inquiry, the people said.

The special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, took over the inquiry into Mr. Trump when he was appointed, days after F.B.I. officials opened it. That inquiry is part of Mr. Mueller’s broader examination of how Russian operatives interfered in the 2016 election and whether any Trump associates conspired with them. It is unclear whether Mr. Mueller is still pursuing the counterintelligence matter, and some former law enforcement officials outside the investigation have questioned whether agents overstepped in opening it.

The criminal and counterintelligence elements were coupled together into one investigation, former law enforcement officials said in interviews in recent weeks, because if Mr. Trump had ousted the head of the F.B.I. to impede or even end the Russia investigation, that was both a possible crime and a national security concern. The F.B.I.’s counterintelligence division handles national security matters.

If the president had fired Mr. Comey to stop the Russia investigation, the action would have been a national security issue because it naturally would have hurt the bureau’s effort to learn how Moscow interfered in the 2016 election and whether any Americans were involved, according to James A. Baker, who served as F.B.I. general counsel until late 2017. He privately testified in October before House investigators who were examining the F.B.I.’s handling of the full Russia inquiry.

“Not only would it be an issue of obstructing an investigation, but the obstruction itself would hurt our ability to figure out what the Russians had done, and that is what would be the threat to national security,” Mr. Baker said in his testimony, portions of which were read to The New York Times. Mr. Baker did not explicitly acknowledge the existence of the investigation of Mr. Trump to congressional investigators.

No evidence has emerged publicly that Mr. Trump was secretly in contact with or took direction from Russian government officials. An F.B.I. spokeswoman and a spokesman for the special counsel’s office both declined to comment.

Rudolph W. Giuliani, a lawyer for the president, sought to play down the significance of the investigation. “The fact that it goes back a year and a half and nothing came of it that showed a breach of national security means they found nothing,” Mr. Giuliani said on Friday, though he acknowledged that he had no insight into the inquiry.

The cloud of the Russia investigation has hung over Mr. Trump since even before he took office, though he has long vigorously denied any illicit connection to Moscow. The obstruction inquiry, revealed by The Washington Post a few weeks after Mr. Mueller was appointed, represented a direct threat that he was unable to simply brush off as an overzealous examination of a handful of advisers. But few details have been made public about the counterintelligence aspect of the investigation.

The decision to investigate Mr. Trump himself was an aggressive move by F.B.I. officials who were confronting the chaotic aftermath of the firing of Mr. Comey and enduring the president’s verbal assaults on the Russia investigation as a “witch hunt.”

A vigorous debate has taken shape among some former law enforcement officials outside the case over whether F.B.I. investigators overreacted in opening the counterintelligence inquiry during a tumultuous period at the Justice Department. Other former officials noted that those critics were not privy to all of the evidence and argued that sitting on it would have been an abdication of duty.

The F.B.I. conducts two types of inquiries, criminal and counterintelligence investigations. Unlike criminal investigations, which are typically aimed at solving a crime and can result in arrests and convictions, counterintelligence inquiries are generally fact-finding missions to understand what a foreign power is doing and to stop any anti-American activity, like thefts of United States government secrets or covert efforts to influence policy. In most cases, the investigations are carried out quietly, sometimes for years. Often, they result in no arrests.

Mr. Trump had caught the attention of F.B.I. counterintelligence agents when he called on Russia during a campaign news conference in July 2016 to hack into the emails of his opponent, Hillary Clinton. Mr. Trump had refused to criticize Russia on the campaign trail, praising President Vladimir V. Putin. And investigators had watched with alarm as the Republican Party softened its convention platform on the Ukraine crisis in a way that seemed to benefit Russia.

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