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Great reading, thanks PT. It's certainly fascinating stuff, this new cyber element. I can't help wondering though whether it's really anything "new" - maybe on a global scale it is. But you could say the same about the likes of Soros, as Putin recently sardonically said.
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(This kinda thing puts Stormy, and Rudy's porn habits, in perspective, doesn't it?)
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If you listen to security experts, cyber, both information theft through hacking, sabotage etc is where the real dangers lie. 

China Russia and North Korea are way in front of the game.

Much of the tension with China and the USA is related to that rather than trade balances and physical trade. Intellectual property theft exploitation of US companies operating in China poses huge security risks.
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Kim visited Beijing again yesterday, his 3rd visit in a month. Xi is putting himself in the middle of these US/ROK negotiations and is using Kim as a willing bargaining chip. It is getting very complex with trade balances, intellectual property, ZTE sanctions NK sanctions, denuclearization, South China Sea all being bundled together.
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Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

(This kinda thing puts Stormy, and Rudy's porn habits, in perspective, doesn't it?)

Rudy's porn viewing habits are not nearly his biggest problem. He is the target/subject of a couple of serious investigations.
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Ok so your last 2 posts are saying that what the media (and social media) is blathering about is a diversion? We agree!
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God you could have cut out 450 pages if you'd said that a while ago!
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OPINION

'Give Donald Trump a chance': Prince Harry's advice to Thomas Markle is spot on

By Corrine Barraclough

Updated about 4 hours ago

f no-one ever tried doing anything differently, the world would never go forward.

Much as many are reluctant to admit, this holds true for Donald Trump.

Meghan Markle's father has said Prince Harry told him during a phone conversation that he should "give Donald Trump a chance".

"Our conversation was, I was complaining about not liking Donald Trump, he said 'give Donald Trump a chance'. I sort of disagreed with that," he told broadcaster ITV.

But if Prince Harry did say that, isn't he right?

Mr Trump is so divisive; emotions kick in before objectivity has a chance.Words like "cruel", "immoral" and "misogynist" are blanket terms that fuel outrage. But they're all subjective.

Put aside emotional reactions

No-one is saying that giving Mr Trump a chance is easy.

The photo of a two-year-old Honduran girl crying as her mother is detained near the border in McAllen, Texas has been used by opponents to hammer home criticism of his immigration policy.The Trump administration's withdrawal from the United Nations Human Rights Council (UNHCR), which the US Ambassador to the UN accused of being a "cesspool of political bias", has left allies including the Australian Government disappointed. Activists are warning it will make advancing human rights globally even more difficult.

Mr Trump's defiant stance as he defends family separations at the US border provokes strong emotions — but immigration policy shouldn't be driven by emotions.

Mr Trump's critics are well aware that stoking outrage on this issue could have a huge impact at the mid-terms in November. Crisis talks are to be held in Washington on Tuesday. If Mr Trump digs his heels in to protect his ego rather than listening to options, this could seal the Republicans' fate.

Fighting against the wind

From the beginning, he's been fighting against the wind.

His style is to speak and gesture loudly, which isn't everyone's cup of tea.

Mr Trump's reliance on his Twitter feed rather than mainstream media as a communication device has raised eyebrows and shaken confidence as much as his lack of experience with political and military protocol.

Withdrawing from the TPP swiftly after his inauguration did nothing to settle fears. Threatening nuclear war with North Korea has certainly brought his foreign policy approach to a crescendo. And the ongoing special counsel investigation led by Robert Mueller casts a shadow.

On Sunday, The New York Times' Maggie Haberman tweeted:

"Since the Cohen raid a few months ago [early April], the president's personal Twitter feed is delivering little actual information or even White House messaging and has become a rapid response operation against Mueller, interspersed with false claims about his own policies."

That Mr Trump posted 26 tweets on US Father's Day is unusual for a world leader — and a source of concern for those who like to manage by the rulebook.

However, none of this makes his achievements so far in his presidency void.

His achievements speak for themselves

In January, BBC published a "Trump Tracker" to coincide with his first year. According to the BBC, arrests on the US-Mexico border were down, stock markets hit record highs, "the basic trajectory of the economy remained the same as it was under President Obama" and he successfully passed the most sweeping overhaul of the US tax system in more than three decades.

The Washington Post's Marc A. Thiessen wrote of Mr Trump's first year:

"This list of extraordinary things he has done — for both good and ill — is nothing short of remarkable. Trump inspires such deep emotions in his critics and supporters that many have struggled to objectively assess his presidency."

In his second year, the US economy grew at an annual rate of 2.3 per cent in the first quarter of 2018 and unemployment remains low.

The November midterm elections are the only real way to see whether he has the vote of confidence for his unique style or not. If the Democrats pick up some seats (or even take control), Mr Trump's progress could slow.

At this stage, no-one knows whether North Korea will stay true to its word of nuclear disarmament.

But like it or not, that meeting with Kim Jong-un would not have happened without pressure from Mr Trump.

Sometimes, success is overlooked while emotional hot topics take the spotlight.

Corrine Barraclough is a freelance writer.

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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

If you listen to security experts, cyber, both information theft through hacking, sabotage etc is where the real dangers lie. 

China Russia and North Korea are way in front of the game.

Much of the tension with China and the USA is related to that rather than trade balances and physical trade. Intellectual property theft exploitation of US companies operating in China poses huge security risks.

you are a little slow to this realization pt. 

what you would lik to be saying is Trump is actually right, as is australia, as in their push back against china, but you, and a large section of the media and other commentators, dont like to admit it.


China is playing the likes of you for fools.
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Kim visited Beijing again yesterday, his 3rd visit in a month. Xi is putting himself in the middle of these US/ROK negotiations and is using Kim as a willing bargaining chip. It is getting very complex with trade balances, intellectual property, ZTE sanctions NK sanctions, denuclearization, South China Sea all being bundled together.

Where tf were you when Trump kept saying he wanted Xi to get involved in the process ... he's involved and now it's a conspiracy ... are you drinking again?Confused
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Same as what happens in Europe with open borders I would expect. People move when they are in distress and most go home when the problem passes, as will happen with Syria. The vast majority identify with their home no matter what it looks like and are content to stay put.


Did you have your fingers, toes and eyes crossed when you imagined THAT!??Clown

Very funny!Big smile

LOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOL
LOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOL

You prove my point. Despite living in the Islamic Caliphate of Bankstown, the second worse place on Earth, where your schools are infested with terrorists and teachers teach terrorism, you refuse to seek asylum in North Sydney or the Eastern Suburbs.  

That's even funnier CNNPT!LOL

... I'm a mere Bankstown Millionaire CNNPT ... it may have been easy enough for Paul Keating to dump the joint, and up and move all his clocks to become an Elizabeth Bay Bover Boy at his first opportunity, but where will I find the extra 5 or 10 mill I'd need to move in next door to Harbourside Mansion and his mates? Confused

I know how how the Jews feel now!!!Cry

So can the Christian Pommies who live in fear for their lives in Birmingham expect the Radical Islamic Terrorists to "go back where they came from" some time soon? ... or will they just have to put up with the "grooming gangs" a little longer ...?Ouch
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

It beats me these Muslims who move from the sh8thouse to the penthouse then do their utmost to turn the penthouse into a sh8thouse.
If they have two full time Arabic Interpreters in every school and every Centrelink office, as they do in Bankstown, and the most generous welfare deals anywhere, they will just keep pouring in, make no effort to assimilate, rather they will degenerate, sneer at our weakness and stupidity, raise their litters and gelati in their own nests as they always have in every place that they have ever infested.
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Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Same as what happens in Europe with open borders I would expect. People move when they are in distress and most go home when the problem passes, as will happen with Syria. The vast majority identify with their home no matter what it looks like and are content to stay put.


Did you have your fingers, toes and eyes crossed when you imagined THAT!??Clown

Very funny!Big smile

LOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOL
LOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOL

You prove my point. Despite living in the Islamic Caliphate of Bankstown, the second worse place on Earth, where your schools are infested with terrorists and teachers teach terrorism, you refuse to seek asylum in North Sydney or the Eastern Suburbs.  

That's even funnier CNNPT!LOL

... I'm a mere Bankstown Millionaire CNNPT ... it may have been easy enough for Paul Keating to dump the joint, and up and move all his clocks to become an Elizabeth Bay Bover Boy at his first opportunity, but where will I find the extra 5 or 10 mill I'd need to move in next door to Harbourside Mansion and his mates? Confused

I know how how the Jews feel now!!!Cry

So can the Christian Pommies who live in fear for their lives in Birmingham expect the Radical Islamic Terrorists to "go back where they came from" some time soon? ... or will they just have to put up with the "grooming gangs" a little longer ...?Ouch

The blinkers are on for the Loony Left ... they always want to re-write history ...

 

Migrant deaths in Mediterranean in 2017 pass 2,000 mark on World Refugee Day after new boat disasters


More than 2,000 migrants have died attempting treacherous boat crossings to Europe so far this year, following three more shipwrecks announced on World Refugee Day.

The United Nations’ Refugee Agency (UNHCR) said 129 asylum seekers were missing and presumed dead after a dinghy launched by smugglers in Libya started taking on water and sank, leaving only four survivors from Sub-Saharan Africa.

Two rescued Sudanese men told the International Organisation for Migration (IOM) the boat had been at sea for several hours when a group of Libyans described as “pirates” approached in a speedboat and stole their motor. 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/migrants-mediterranean-sea-crossings-2000-dead-world-refugee-day-asylum-seekers-boat-disasters-libya-a7800376.html

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They should stay where they are and be killed there so they aren't on anyone's conscience?
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Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Kim visited Beijing again yesterday, his 3rd visit in a month. Xi is putting himself in the middle of these US/ROK negotiations and is using Kim as a willing bargaining chip. It is getting very complex with trade balances, intellectual property, ZTE sanctions NK sanctions, denuclearization, South China Sea all being bundled together.

Where tf were you when Trump kept saying he wanted Xi to get involved in the process ... he's involved and now it's a conspiracy ... are you drinking again?Confused

Exactly where I am now, unlike your 180 flip.Wink How many times have I tried to tell you there can only be one outcome with the Kimmy nuclear boat having sailed 2 years ago?

The only difference in what is happening  now is that as Xi and Kimmy's victory is almost complete, it is becoming clearer to most, how we got here. Trump thought he could do a big deal with Xi to fix his problem(believing everyone is essentially a greedy grifter like him), but the price Xi asked and is claiming to fix America's Asian mess is yuuuuge. 
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Interesting though Doc, one of the concessions Trump had to make to Xi for fixing this up, the lifting of sanctions on the Chinese telecom giant ZDE has hit an obstacle with the US Senate yesterday voting to block the lifting of the sanctions. It will now go to the HOR and probably be stalemated for some time. Trump will have to find something else to offer Xi before the next meeting with Kimmy. The Senate flexing some muscle, as they often do with Trump. Rarely gets commented on though. 
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Originally posted by Isaac soloman Isaac soloman wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

If you listen to security experts, cyber, both information theft through hacking, sabotage etc is where the real dangers lie. 

China Russia and North Korea are way in front of the game.

Much of the tension with China and the USA is related to that rather than trade balances and physical trade. Intellectual property theft exploitation of US companies operating in China poses huge security risks.

you are a little slow to this realization pt. 

what you would lik to be saying is Trump is actually right, as is australia, as in their push back against china, but you, and a large section of the media and other commentators, dont like to admit it.


China is playing the likes of you for fools.

Pretty sure, like the embarrassing drone issue, I have actually started threads on this years ago, as well as more recently in cyber crime threads. But carry on Isaac. Wink
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Hungary passes 'Stop Soros' law banning help for migrantshe Hungarian parliament has passed new legislation that criminalises lawyers and activists who help asylum seekers.

Anyone "facilitating illegal immigration" will face a year in jail.

Viktor Orban's government has dubbed the legislation the "Stop Soros law", after the billionaire philanthropist it accuses of supporting Muslim migrants.

The vote in Budapest came hours after a number of European Union leaders agreed to hold crisis talks on how to overhaul asylum rules.

Hungary says immigration threatens its national security, but its hardline stance and new law have faced widespread international criticism.

The UN refugee agency urged Hungarian officials to scrap the proposed law and legal experts from the Council of Europe human rights organisation appealed for the vote to be postponed until they had submitted a review of the measures on Friday.

A report by the Council's Venice Commission leaked to the BBC said the Hungarian legislation "criminalises organisational activities which are not directly related to the materialisation of the illegal migration".

Why is the law controversial?

The new legislation amends eight existing laws and introduces one new crime of "facilitating illegal immigration".

Under the new law, anyone could be jailed for working for or with non-governmental organisations that are involved in helping or campaigning for asylum seekers. Human rights groups insist all they are trying to do is help people who have been allowed in Hungary legally apply for asylum.

The measures also tighten restrictions on asylum, so that anyone attempting to enter Hungary from a third country where they are not directly threatened with persecution cannot claim protection.

In a related development, MPs passed an amendment to the constitution that declares that "alien populations cannot be settled in Hungary", in effect outlawing the European Commission's attempts to relocate asylum seekers from Italy and Greece to other EU states.

When some 400,000 people travelled through Hungary in the middle of the migrant crisis of 2015 on their way to Western Europe, Mr Orban ordered fences put up to halt the influx. The Commission imposed a mandatory asylum quota for every EU state in response to the crisis, but Mr Orban refused to accept it.

In 2015, 177,000 people sought asylum in Hungary but only a few hundred were accepted. Last year, the number of asylum claims fell to around 3,200.

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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by Isaac soloman Isaac soloman wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

If you listen to security experts, cyber, both information theft through hacking, sabotage etc is where the real dangers lie. 

China Russia and North Korea are way in front of the game.

Much of the tension with China and the USA is related to that rather than trade balances and physical trade. Intellectual property theft exploitation of US companies operating in China poses huge security risks.

you are a little slow to this realization pt. 

what you would lik to be saying is Trump is actually right, as is australia, as in their push back against china, but you, and a large section of the media and other commentators, dont like to admit it.


China is playing the likes of you for fools.

Pretty sure, like the embarrassing drone issue, I have actually started threads on this years ago, as well as more recently in cyber crime threads. But carry on Isaac. Wink

but you dont deny my assertion. interesting.....
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Is Soros playing you Isaac?
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Font of all knowledge pt, tell me....
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You tell me first.
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Stormy related update for you stayer:

The publisher of the National Enquirer (American Media Inc) has been subpoenaed for records related to the $150,000 payment it made to former Playboy model Karen McDougal, as part of a broader criminal probe into longtime Trump fixer Michael Cohen
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A new fundraising campaign on Facebook has raised over $8 million to help immigrant families who are being placed in America’s concentration camps along the US-Mexico border. The fundraising goal started at just $1,500, but people are donating roughly $4,000 per minute since the campaign was first created on Saturday. Facebook says it’s the single largest fundraiser on the platform to date.
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