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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

The test that the genius aced- 30/30- is a narrowly focused test to screen for Alzheimer's and Parkinson's. Also useful to see how stroke recovery is going.

It's good to know that the leader of the free world can remember 5 nouns for 5 minutes and count backwards from 100 by subtracting by 7.Clap


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Accept the referee's decisions.

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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

The test that the genius aced- 30/30- is a narrowly focused test to screen for Alzheimer's and Parkinson's. Also useful to see how stroke recovery is going.

It's good to know that the leader of the free world can remember 5 nouns for 5 minutes and count backwards from 100 by subtracting by 7.Clap


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Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

The test that the genius aced- 30/30- is a narrowly focused test to screen for Alzheimer's and Parkinson's. Also useful to see how stroke recovery is going.

It's good to know that the leader of the free world can remember 5 nouns for 5 minutes and count backwards from 100 by subtracting by 7.Clap


Excuses...     he has risen above the detractors relying on TBV Fake News.

Accept the referee's decisions.

How many on TBV have the paperwork to document their level of sanity.

Only Whale probably ..     For obvious reasons.


you love me Macca, interesting to see how many of your posts have a reference to me Smile
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Sloppy Steve just finished after 10 1/2 hours of questions.


BREAKING: House Intel Chairman Adam Schiff says White House imposed a “gag order” that was “breathtaking” in scope to deny Bannon from answering questions about transition and his time in the WH!


Seems Donald doesn't want his innocence proven





I have seen enough courtroom dramas to know that is the correct response whether you are guilty or 100% innocent.



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He was only there as a witness and said he wanted to answer questions but the WH gagged him

He will also be at the grand jury as a witness
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Huge fallout from the crash of 2 US Navy ships in Asia last week


Washington (CNN)The US Navy announced Tuesday that the former commanding officers of the USS Fitzgerald and USS John S. McCain -- the ships involved in two deadly 2017 collisions that killed 17 sailors -- will face criminal charges including dereliction of duty, hazarding a vessel and negligent homicide.

    "After careful deliberation, today Adm. Frank Caldwell announced that Uniform Code of Military Justice charges are being preferred against individual service members in relation to the collisions," a Navy statement said.
    Court-martial proceedings will be convened to review evidence supporting possible criminal charges against several members of the USS Fitzgerald, according to the service.
    "The members' ranks include one commander (the commanding officer), two lieutenants, and one lieutenant junior grade. The charges include dereliction of duty, hazarding a vessel, and negligent homicide," the Navy said.
    The collision between the Fitzgerald, a guided-missile destroyer, and the ACX Crystal on June 17, 2017 claimed the lives of seven US sailors. It took place 56 nautical miles off the coast of Honshu, Japan, in an area heavily traveled by commercial shipping.
    For the USS John S. McCain, one court-martial proceeding, or Article 32 hearing, will be convened to review evidence supporting possible criminal charges against one commander -- the commanding officer -- the Navy said.
    "The charges include dereliction of duty, hazarding a vessel, and negligent homicide. Also, one charge of dereliction of duty was preferred and is pending referral to a forum for a chief petty officer," the service added.
    Ten sailors were killed when the USS John S. McCain, a Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyer with the Liberian-flagged merchant vessel Alnic MC on August 21, 2017
    "The announcement of an Article 32 hearing and referral to a court-martial is not intended to and does not reflect a determination of guilt or innocence related to any offenses," US Navy Capt. Gregory Hicks said. "All individuals alleged to have committed misconduct are entitled to a presumption of innocence."
    The Navy also said there will be additional administrative actions for members of both crews including non-judicial punishment for four Fitzgerald and four John S. McCain crewmembers.

    Another Navy admiral steps down early

    US Navy Vice Adm. Thomas Rowden also announced Tuesday that he will depart his post on January 18 in the wake of last year's fatal incidents.
    "I have informed the chief of naval operations that this Thursday I will step aside earlier than previously planned as the commander, Naval Surface Forces, and commander, Naval Surface Force, US Pacific Fleet," Rowden said in a statement.
    "This was a difficult decision to make, but I make it with the best interest of the surface warfare community and the Navy in mind," the statement said.
    Rowden is just the latest Pacific Fleet senior officer to leave his post earlier than scheduled following the two deadly collisions killed 17 Navy sailors.
    The entire leadership of the US Navy's 7th Fleet and the larger Pacific Fleet have come under increased scrutiny following the incidents involving the USS John S. McCain and the USS Fitzgerald.
    In August, the Navy took the unprecedented step of dismissing the 7th fleet commander, Vice Adm. Joseph Aucoin, of command.
    Data submitted by the Government Accountability Office in response to questions from Rep. Joe Courtney, a Connecticut Democrat, confirmed CNN's previous reporting that the crews of both the McCain and Fitzgerald failed to fulfill key training qualifications ahead of the incidents that occurred this summer.
    The deadly destroyer accidents -- along with two Navy cruiser collisions in the Pacific last year -- prompted the dismissal of Aucoin, as well as multiple reviews of the way the Navy trains, maintains and deploys its fleet, which is stretched thin.
    Rowden was expected to retire but has moved up his departure.
    "In December, the Senate confirmed Rear Adm. Richard Brown to be the next commander of Naval Surface Forces and Naval Surface Force, US Pacific Fleet. The surface warfare community will be in good hands as Rich is a superb and talented naval officer," Rowden said.
    "In this job, I've spent three and a half years traveling around the world spending time with our surface force and the men and women who bring life, energy and purpose to our ships. I've loved," he added.

    CNN's Jeremy Herb contributed to this report

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    Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

    Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

    Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

    The test that the genius aced- 30/30- is a narrowly focused test to screen for Alzheimer's and Parkinson's. Also useful to see how stroke recovery is going.

    It's good to know that the leader of the free world can remember 5 nouns for 5 minutes and count backwards from 100 by subtracting by 7.Clap


    Excuses...     he has risen above the detractors relying on TBV Fake News.

    Accept the referee's decisions.

    How many on TBV have the paperwork to document their level of sanity.

    Only Whale probably ..     For obvious reasons.


    you love me Macca, interesting to see how many of your posts have a reference to me Smile


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    Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

    Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

    [QUOTE=maccamax] [QUOTE=Tlazolteotl] The test that the g


    Someone has to help you ,    I even wrote your signature for you to adopt .
    It's a real clanger and covers things beautifully.
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    Still waiting to hear about your service record, oh that's right you don't have one.Confused

    But like Trump ,another gutless slime, feel free to criticise those that do Thumbs Up
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    Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

    Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

    Anyway my point was that lefties love to hold up scandinavian countries as models for us all. The truth is that they are small, cold, bleak little places where socialism thrives because the government can focus on giving them jobs and heat while pretending to be super "progressive" in their academia etc. Totally different scenario to US and Oz.


    As usual you entirely missed the point of the reference and went off on some bizarre tangent to find something to criticize. 

    Did you have a point? Yes I took a tangent to criticize the lefty obsession with scandinavia, which surely you know about, which is more relevant to the thread topic than your weird comment about norway. Then E&E turned into subastral for a while...   
    I'll try to find a couple of articles re the left's enchantment with norway etc. It's actually very relevant to the Trump era and the idealogical divide in tbe US.
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    Another POV (no PT, didn't think you'd be interested but others might):
    https://nypost.com/2015/01/11/sorry-liberals-scandinavian-countries-arent-utopias/
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    Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

    Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

    Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

    Anyway my point was that lefties love to hold up scandinavian countries as models for us all. The truth is that they are small, cold, bleak little places where socialism thrives because the government can focus on giving them jobs and heat while pretending to be super "progressive" in their academia etc. Totally different scenario to US and Oz.


    As usual you entirely missed the point of the reference and went off on some bizarre tangent to find something to criticize. 

    Did you have a point? Yes I took a tangent to criticize the lefty obsession with scandinavia, which surely you know about, which is more relevant to the thread topic than your weird comment about norway. Then E&E turned into subastral for a while...   
    I'll try to find a couple of articles re the left's enchantment with norway etc. It's actually very relevant to the Trump era and the idealogical divide in tbe US.


    Hey stayer, didn't Russia blackmail Norway over land and oil that belong to them during WW11, read it somewhere, could be wrong though.
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    Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

    Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

    Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

    [QUOTE=maccamax] [QUOTE=Tlazolteotl] The test that the g


    Someone has to help you ,    I even wrote your signature for you to adopt .
    It's a real clanger and covers things beautifully.
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    Still waiting to hear about your service record, oh that's right you don't have one.Confused

    But like Trump ,another gutless slime, feel free to criticise those that do Thumbs Up


    WHAT ..      I have a great SERVICE record.    better than Lohnro , Star Kingdom .          I speak up for the deprived , spent my life in essential services.        . Counselled the population about what made the MALTESE CROSS =   ( They Heard they were going to BAN KOK. )
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    Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

    Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

    Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

    Anyway my point was that lefties love to hold up scandinavian countries as models for us all. The truth is that they are small, cold, bleak little places where socialism thrives because the government can focus on giving them jobs and heat while pretending to be super "progressive" in their academia etc. Totally different scenario to US and Oz.


    As usual you entirely missed the point of the reference and went off on some bizarre tangent to find something to criticize. 

    Did you have a point? Yes I took a tangent to criticize the lefty obsession with scandinavia, which surely you know about, which is more relevant to the thread topic than your weird comment about norway. Then E&E turned into subastral for a while...   
    I'll try to find a couple of articles re the left's enchantment with norway etc. It's actually very relevant to the Trump era and the idealogical divide in tbe US.

    Correct me if I am wrong stayer but isn't the only reason Norway was being mentioned this week because Trump ''obsessed'' about them, holding them up as the country from which America should be looking to attract immigrants. He must think they have something going for them, or is he just obsessed with them for some other reason?

     
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    Well the Norse are predominantly of an Arian ethnic backgroundand that would certainly appeal to the Trumpster.
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    Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

    Well the Norse are predominantly of an Arian ethnic backgroundand that would certainly appeal to the Trumpster.

    Secretary of Homeland Security Kirstjen Nielsen appeared to hesitate when asked whether Norwegians come from a predominantly white country. Nielsen gave her questionable remark while testifying under oath in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee Tuesday on a new report from her department ...Newsweek
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    Originally posted by Carioca Carioca wrote:

    Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

    Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

    Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

    Anyway my point was that lefties love to hold up scandinavian countries as models for us all. The truth is that they are small, cold, bleak little places where socialism thrives because the government can focus on giving them jobs and heat while pretending to be super "progressive" in their academia etc. Totally different scenario to US and Oz.


    As usual you entirely missed the point of the reference and went off on some bizarre tangent to find something to criticize. 

    Did you have a point? Yes I took a tangent to criticize the lefty obsession with scandinavia, which surely you know about, which is more relevant to the thread topic than your weird comment about norway. Then E&E turned into subastral for a while...   
    I'll try to find a couple of articles re the left's enchantment with norway etc. It's actually very relevant to the Trump era and the idealogical divide in tbe US.


    Hey stayer, didn't Russia blackmail Norway over land and oil that belong to them during WW11, read it somewhere, could be wrong though.

    No idea mate, but probably! I know there's a region of a sea they've been squabbling about for years because of the natural resources, but I thought that was more cold war era. I'll have to google it. That's how we learn anything these days.
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    Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

    Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

    Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

    Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

    Anyway my point was that lefties love to hold up scandinavian countries as models for us all. The truth is that they are small, cold, bleak little places where socialism thrives because the government can focus on giving them jobs and heat while pretending to be super "progressive" in their academia etc. Totally different scenario to US and Oz.


    As usual you entirely missed the point of the reference and went off on some bizarre tangent to find something to criticize. 

    Did you have a point? Yes I took a tangent to criticize the lefty obsession with scandinavia, which surely you know about, which is more relevant to the thread topic than your weird comment about norway. Then E&E turned into subastral for a while...   
    I'll try to find a couple of articles re the left's enchantment with norway etc. It's actually very relevant to the Trump era and the idealogical divide in tbe US.


    Correct me if I am wrong stayer but isn't the only reason Norway was being mentioned this week because Trump ''obsessed'' about them, holding them up as the country from which America should be looking to attract immigrants. He must think they have something going for them, or is he just obsessed with them for some other reason?

     

    No idea I don't follow gossip. I just brought up norway because you pulled out the old chestnut about it's "happiness index." I guess you only brought that up because trump said blah blah. Or maybe now because they are an aryan race. Hard to keep up.
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    You do struggle to keep up dont you?
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    Any way if you take time to read those 2 links you'll see what relevance norway has to the thread, apart from what trump or some norwegian dude said last week.
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    Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

    You do struggle to keep up dont you?

    It's called having principles - day-by-day blather is pointless 99% of the time, as thia thread keepa proving.
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    Is that like only going to the football for the meat pies?


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    I just come here for macca's comments. Genius.


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    He doesn't get it macca. He thinks the thread's about his latest updates but it's more about the responses and asides. "Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you've forgotten your aim."
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