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Originally posted by Gay3 Gay3 wrote:

Changing the subject slightly but hoping I'll get a reasonably meaningful answer Smile
Were Kim to get bumped off what in terms of ensuing leadership, would be the likely scenario?
I've no idea of their political system except that it's a dictatorship which seems to be kept in the family.


What family? He's bumped them all off.
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Are judges corrupt?
The 9th circuit is the most liberally biased and the most overturned in the USA. Same federal circuit that blocked immigration band.

Tell the whole story, PT. Your patriot nephews are serving in your military so you can do that.
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Originally posted by Shammy Davis Shammy Davis wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Are judges corrupt?
The 9th circuit is the most liberally biased and the most overturned in the USA. Same federal circuit that blocked immigration band.

Tell the whole story, PT. Your patriot nephews are serving in your military so you can do that.

Wasn't that judge a Bush appointee?
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The Supreme Court is very conservative(5-4) leaning again with the addition of Gorsuch. Trump could appeal this decision right to the SC if he chooses

Will you then, in the interest of fairness say that a successful appeal is a conservative political decision

I would hope that all judges are fair and dont make political rulings, but rule on the constitution

This judge cited many contraventions of the constitution. He can be challenged, and may well be.

He keeps putting up stupid orders that will be shot down.  
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Originally posted by Newtown Old Boy Newtown Old Boy wrote:

Originally posted by Shammy Davis Shammy Davis wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Are judges corrupt?
The 9th circuit is the most liberally biased and the most overturned in the USA. Same federal circuit that blocked immigration band.

Tell the whole story, PT. Your patriot nephews are serving in your military so you can do that.

Wasn't that judge a Bush appointee?

No he was appointed by Obama. His father was nominated by Nixon
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Sorry Newtown, i thought you meant Orrick
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Trump is losing on wall funding, may be open to a compromise which includes spending on border security if not specifically for a wall.
At least he tried Smile
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Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:


   
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   Trump is losing on wall funding, may be open to a compromise which
includes spending on border security if not specifically for a wall.
At least he tried Smile


Don't you want to tell everyone that the issue, that includes the wall, is a continuing tesolution, not budget legislation which occurs in October. It is a temporary act to fund the government. Plenty of future opportunities to fund the wall available. Tell the whole truth.
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Sociopathic, paranoid, delusional autocrats sane vessels? Threatening to blow up half the world is a really balanced view it seems. Even if facts defy your empty threats.
Such analysis is inept and grossly biased.
 
The firing range and strength of Nth Korea is also being grossly exaggerated. Just because every citizen is a conscript doesn't mean they have fight in their legs. Nth Korea is and will continue to remain nothing more than a Chinese proxy or buffer zone - with or without the imminently expendable Kim. Their military parades are a sign of weakness not strength. Their equipment would look apt on a set of Thunderbirds circa 1969.
 
 
Watching NK news is like listening to the rants and raves of the weakest, wackiest, most ineffective bully in school who only ever has something to say when on the other side of a very high fence. If they could attack Seoul they would have done it a very long time ago.  
 
 
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More bad news for the Trump Derangement Syndrome sufferers (sorry PT!)

Seems like they didn't need a wall at all ... just a President!!!

Border rancher: Illegal crossings down 90% since Trump became president


Arizona ranchers John Ladd and Fred Davis invited House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi to see the southern border from their property, but she never responded.

But they responded this morning to Pelosi’s recent claim that the border wall is “immoral, expensive, unwise.”

Appearing on Fox & Friends on Tuesday, Ladd said border crossings by illegal aliens have decreased 90% to 95% since Donald Trump took office.

Perhaps more shockingly, Ladd has determined through Border Patrol data that some 500,000 illegal aliens have crossed his property in the 30 years he’s owned it.

Davis disputed Pelosi’s notion that a wall would divide border towns.

“All the communities that I know about, all the cities along the border, already have high fences,” he told co-host Steve Doocy, disputing Pelosi’s argument.

“Where the wall is necessary is in a lot of the outlying areas that still only have a four-wire barbed-wire fence between Mexico and us.”


http://www.theamericanmirror.com/border-rancher-illegal-crossings-90-since-trump-became-president/

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Didn't you post that last weeK?
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How many fly in?
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No I didn't post that last week.

Fly in? ... come on PT, they aren't cockroaches!Wink
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lots of refugee migration across the mexican border is from central america...which is largely a resul from usa actions in their countries - of which PT is a big fan of.

strange bedfellow is PT. No absolutists. except when it comes to trump. Then magically their is.....

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40% of all illegals in America flew in and 40% of illegals are people who came in with a visa and stayed, according to Marco Rubio last year

In Australia when Howard stopped the boats and boasted of stopping illegal immigration here(We will decide....) Sunsequent studies however showed that the number that boat arrivals fell by was the same as the number fly-ins increased by
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

40% of all illegals in America flew in and 40% of illegals are people who came in with a visa and stayed, according to Marco Rubio last year

In Australia when Howard stopped the boats and boasted of stopping illegal immigration here(We will decide....) Sunsequent studies however showed that the number that boat arrivals fell by was the same as the number fly-ins increased by


Which country created alot of the refugees fleeing central america, crossing through mexico to get into the USA?
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Pretty sure I posted that several times before
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Pretty sure I posted that several times before


Just remind us it was the USA. and you liked the history of USA devastating central america and creating alot of these refugees, still fleeing years later.

you approved of creating refugees, you just dont want trump to stop them.

funny...the only place on record i can recall you having a problem with the creation of refugees is when it involves islamic countries. middle east.

how odd....
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That is your distorted interpretation

I am not the one trying to stop refugees from violence in Guatamala El Salvidor Honduras, Nicaragua, Columbia etc going to America, Trump is and it has nothing to do with American Imperialism

95% of the drugs that come into the country from there come by container, submersible vessels or above water vessels. 

His policy isn't stopping drugs, only people fleeing violence. 

I dont like Trump because he is an idiot.
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**** BREAKING NEWS!!!****

TRUMP RESIGNS FROM PRESIDENCY!

Shuts down twitter account and all other social media.

President of the United States, Donald Trump has resigned from the position in the aftermath of a savage online attack by some left wing nutter in an Australian horse racing forum who "doesn't like him and calls him an idiot".
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Don't frighten me Dr E.            I dropped about 2000 revs when I read your headline.
 
    Whatever we think of Trump , I would like to think we agree that North Korea has to face the music ,
 Sooner,  rather than later , IMHO .
    All the threats for decades hasn't worked so IT"S TIME .           . None of us want war I'm sure but we are in big trouble if this madman in NK is allowed to continue.
   Donald Trump has inherited the problem and top marks for him if he issues an ultimatum and then blows the shxt out of them .
   The USA have no choice in my mind ,       The rest of us as allies have to front up and pull our weight .       >>>        Life wasn't meant to be easy.
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And in the meantime US farmers are reportedly leaving crops to go rotten in the field because their mainly migrant workforce of pickers has gone AWOL.
Long time illegal residents of the US are also reportedly reluctant to leave their homes for fear of encounters with law enforcement, let alone incurring increasing levels of racial abuse. Families are being torn apart with one or both parents being deported leaving their teenage ( or older ) US born children behind. We're not talking about rapists, murderers and drug runners. We're talking about shift workers, labourers, gardeners, fruit pickers, nannies, maids, cleaners and other essential workers that have long been a part of the wider economy.
 
The US and UK are on the brink of self inflicted disaster. South Americans and Eastern Europeans serve both economic communities extremely well. Stop the flow of able bodied, hard working, determined and capable migrants and you end up with what?
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Originally posted by ThreeBears ThreeBears wrote:

And in the meantime US farmers are reportedly leaving crops to go rotten in the field because their mainly migrant workforce of pickers has gone AWOL.
Long time illegal residents of the US are also reportedly reluctant to leave their homes for fear of encounters with law enforcement, let alone incurring increasing levels of racial abuse. Families are being torn apart with one or both parents being deported leaving their teenage ( or older ) US born children behind. We're not talking about rapists, murderers and drug runners. We're talking about shift workers, labourers, gardeners, fruit pickers, nannies, maids, cleaners and other essential workers that have long been a part of the wider economy.
 
The US and UK are on the brink of self inflicted disaster. South Americans and Eastern Europeans serve both economic communities extremely well. Stop the flow of able bodied, hard working, determined and capable migrants and you end up with what?
 
  Law abiding citizens.
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If it works so well, why didn't Obama just make all illegals legal? ... why was Trump elected when he said he was going to do exactly this? ... are there no legal Americans who are unemployed?
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How is that wall going anyway? Has Mexico made a down-payment yet?
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At what stage did the White Australia Policy produce a proliferation of law abiding citizens?
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

That is your distorted interpretation

I am not the one trying to stop refugees from violence in Guatamala El Salvidor Honduras, Nicaragua, Columbia etc going to America, Trump is and it has nothing to do with American Imperialism

95% of the drugs that come into the country from there come by container, submersible vessels or above water vessels. 

His policy isn't stopping drugs, only people fleeing violence. 

I dont like Trump because he is an idiot.


BS.

the guatemalan civil war/massacre which regan supported in the 80's still has people fleeing through mexico, trying to get to the usa. one of the dicators, is in gaol for his part of the indigenous near genocide.

UN staff point to the post war state of guatemala as a leading reason for continual migration.

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American and UK prisons are full of law abiding US/UK citizens too aren't they?
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Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:


Don't frighten me Dr E.            I dropped about 2000 revs when I read your headline.
 
    Whatever we think of Trump , I would like to think we agree that North Korea has to face the music ,
 Sooner,  rather than later , IMHO .
    All the threats for decades hasn't worked so IT"S TIME .           . None of us want war I'm sure but we are in big trouble if this madman in NK is allowed to continue.
   Donald Trump has inherited the problem and top marks for him if he issues an ultimatum and then blows the shxt out of them .
   The USA have no choice in my mind ,       The rest of us as allies have to front up and pull our weight .       >>>        Life wasn't meant to be easy.


Wrong option macca. you should read about what a nuclear war and winter is all about. south korea goes if north korea does. thats at the very least.

best to stay diplomatic with the dictator / lunatic (through china is the best bet) and keep things how they are.

same with syria. gotta try and somehow broker a deal with assad (as tough as that is) . Blowing syria to bits would just mean its gloves off with russia - imagine the nuclear result there.

wave good bye world.
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Originally posted by cabosanlucas cabosanlucas wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

That is your distorted interpretation

I am not the one trying to stop refugees from violence in Guatamala El Salvidor Honduras, Nicaragua, Columbia etc going to America, Trump is and it has nothing to do with American Imperialism

95% of the drugs that come into the country from there come by container, submersible vessels or above water vessels. 

His policy isn't stopping drugs, only people fleeing violence. 

I dont like Trump because he is an idiot.


BS.

the guatemalan civil war/massacre which regan supported in the 80's still has people fleeing through mexico, trying to get to the usa. one of the dicators, is in gaol for his part of the indigenous near genocide.

UN staff point to the post war state of guatemala as a leading reason for continual migration.


It starts out as political destabilization and ends up in criminal chaos. Have you learned nothing from Nth Africa and the Middle East?


Guatemala's criminal organizations are among the most sophisticated and dangerous in Central America. Some of them have been in operation for decades. They include former members of the military, intelligence agencies and active members of the police. Transporting illegal drugs north comprises the bulk of their activity, but organized crime in Guatemala is also involved in marijuana and poppy cultivation, as well as human traffickingkidnappingextortionmoney laundering, arms smuggling, adoption rings, eco trafficking and other illegal enterprises. They often work with groups from MexicoColombia and other Central American nations and they have the potential to expand and command other Central American nations' underworlds.
Guatemala's current turmoil and pronounced problems of violence, crime and impunity have their roots in a historically weak state, protracted periods of direct military rule or interference by the armed forces in politics, and deep-seated economic, social and cultural inequality. Central America's largest country has long had one of the most unequal distribution of resources and capital in the world, concentrating wealth in the hands of a small elite. The indigenous population, which represents 40 percent of Guatemala (2011 statistics), has been systematically marginalized socially and politically since colonial times. These groups have had a difficult time forming a cohesive political movement and have faced years of repression by Guatemala's military and police forces.
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