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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

491,000 views suggests plenty are interested Shammy. 

The WINX thread has been going for 4 years and only has 161,000 views

Donald going down  has 3 times as many people interested as the world's best(arguably)racehorse on a racing site. Shocked

Deary me. And you take the pizz out of the other guy who says how many views his China thread gets? #narcissism
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Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

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Related to Cardinal Pell, Australia selectively bans freedom of the press and this thread is focused on the relevance of the US Constitution, the state of our government, and it's leadership. What a joke. Makes this thread's trash talk even more comedic that it has been previously. Can't seal the roads but you have plenty of time to trash the states.

https://nypost.com/2018/12/12/australian-media-barred-from-covering-cardinals-conviction-for-sex-abuse/amp/


This explains it Shammy. If you'd seen what the media was doing here when the Pell stuff started you'd understand why the principle is there, even if it's ridiculous these days. Basically it's to avoid prejudice and protect the reputation of the accused, especially in sex crimes. Innocent until proven guilty and all that.

https://www.thecourier.com.au/story/5305660/why-the-public-isnt-allowed-to-know-specifics-about-the-george-pell-case/


It's not a bad idea, outdated as it is by social media, when you consider the Kavanaugh trial. 10 days was a long time to that bloke.
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Quote Cohen, during interview this morning, says we Americans should believe him because Mueller believes him. Didn't he just plead guilty to lying to Congress?

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Dershowitz and Turley, both premier legal scholars, agree Trump has not committed any crime as far as campaign finances. Looks like Judge in Flynn is skeptical about FBI and Mueller tactics. Good for Flynn to fight back against the classic perjury tactic. CNNPT, your case is collapsing.   
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Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

Originally posted by Shammy Davis Shammy Davis wrote:

Related to Cardinal Pell, Australia selectively bans freedom of the press and this thread is focused on the relevance of the US Constitution, the state of our government, and it's leadership. What a joke. Makes this thread's trash talk even more comedic that it has been previously. Can't seal the roads but you have plenty of time to trash the states.

https://nypost.com/2018/12/12/australian-media-barred-from-covering-cardinals-conviction-for-sex-abuse/amp/


This explains it Shammy. If you'd seen what the media was doing here when the Pell stuff started you'd understand why the principle is there, even if it's ridiculous these days. Basically it's to avoid prejudice and protect the reputation of the accused, especially in sex crimes. Innocent until proven guilty and all that.

https://www.thecourier.com.au/story/5305660/why-the-public-isnt-allowed-to-know-specifics-about-the-george-pell-case/


It's not a bad idea, outdated as it is by social media, when you consider the Kavanaugh trial. 10 days was a long time to that bloke.


I see your point, but Kavanaugh was not guilty of any crime nor was he being tried for a crime. Justice in the states is open to the public and press and for the most part fully transparent no matter the status of the criminal. If a jury pool or judge bias is well founded changes of venue are available to a defendant.   We call it the Bill of Rights which Congress has no control over nor can it be arbitrarily changed.
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Originally posted by Shammy Davis Shammy Davis wrote:

Quote Cohen, during interview this morning, says we Americans should believe him because Mueller believes him. Didn't he just plead guilty to lying to Congress?


Dershowitz and Turley, both premier legal scholars, agree Trump has not committed any crime as far as campaign finances. Looks like Judge in Flynn is skeptical about FBI and Mueller tactics. Good for Flynn to fight back against the classic perjury tactic. CNNPT, your case is collapsing.   

Maybe you haven't caught up with the news today Shammy. Mr Mueller has responded to Flynn's claims, not on Fox News but to a court, that the charge of Flynn's lies coming from his FBI interview wasn't true. The interview was a response to his lies for weeks before and cited tv interviews and public statements he had made that led to the interview where he lied again.

If the judge isn't happy with this development, Mikey may have just bought himself a prison term, even with Mr Mueller recommending no custodial term.
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There are so many conspiracies and so many areas of criminal investigation going on now Shammy  Code-words makes it easier to keep track of them all.Wink

Have to think of the new one for the criminal investigation opened today into the tens of million missing from the inaugural committee, who paid it where it went and whether it was buying influence. Who is Melania's friend and what did she do to get $25m

#Crowdgate?

Geez that Cohen lockup is spewing out so much criminality

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Rats deserting the sinking ship PT. This is exactly what happened with Watergate. As long as the criminals think there’s a hope they’ll get away with it they’ll stick solid. If the investigators get too close to the truth though the whole rotten edifice comes down like a house of cards. What are the odds the orange wonder is out of the White House in the new year? Does a deal to protect his son in law who has to be next in line to go?

Yes Baguette, Mr Mueller and other investigators are dismantling this house of lies with surgical precision. 
I love the way Mr Mueller especially drops his bombs incrementally, so that the Trump acolytes respond to part A with lies, he then dismantles lie A and so on. The defenders are humiliated almost daily.

Don Jr seems to have a ton of exposure on many levels of criminality and a resignation/immunity deal involving his children on federal level is a real option being widely discussed. It wont help them with the tsunami of non pardonable state investigations coming their way though, with the NY AG working in concert with SDNY investigations. Also Washington DC and Manhattan 

The web of crime runs so deep and far it will be difficult to worm out of this. 
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Here you go Shammy.

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A child has died at the U.S border after trying to get in.
Mexican leaders should be charged with murder for not caring for children enough whilst in their nation.
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Shammy, this is the secret grand jury matter I have been telling you about. It was back in court today. Clearing an entire floor of the building to conceal the identity of the participants is a big deal.  Sounds like a big fish being handled with care here.


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A child has died at the U.S border after trying to get in.
Mexican leaders should be charged with murder for not caring for children enough whilst in their nation.

I believe the child was in the care of US authorities when she fell ill and died Apparently Homeland Security was in Senate hearings on Wednesday knowing of the death and didn't mention it, despite it being their obligation to do so. Sounds like people trying to get their ducks in a row. 
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Shammy, this is the secret grand jury matter I have been telling you about. It was back in court today. Clearing an entire floor of the building to conceal the identity of the participants is a big deal.  Sounds like a big fish being handled with care here.






Why’s it all secret? I thought Shammy told us justice takes place in public over there?
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CNNPT: Let's wait to see how the judge deals with the Flynn sentencing before you have multiple orgasms.

Related to the DC Circuit, maybe national security is involved. Is Cardinal Pell a national security issue for OZ?
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Shammy, this is the secret grand jury matter I have been telling you about. It was back in court today. Clearing an entire floor of the building to conceal the identity of the participants is a big deal.  Sounds like a big fish being handled with care here.


 


Why’s it all secret? I thought Shammy told us justice takes place in public over there?

That was yesterday
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CNNPT: Let's wait to see how the judge deals with the Flynn sentencing before you have multiple orgasms.

Related to the DC Circuit, maybe national security is involved. Is Cardinal Pell a national security issue for OZ?

Heavy hitters, and with Zainab involved almost certainly national security. With Dreeben involved likely constitutional issues. Jared, Don Jr, Flynn, Pence, Prince?
 

about 10 minutes after the court activity appeared to wrap for the day, a black Justice Department car rolled into Mueller's office building, bring attorneys including Dreeben and Zainab Ahmad back to their home base.
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Originally posted by Shammy Davis Shammy Davis wrote:

CNNPT: Let's wait to see how the judge deals with the Flynn sentencing before you have multiple orgasms.

Related to the DC Circuit, maybe national security is involved. Is Cardinal Pell a national security issue for OZ?



We get it, you have freedom of the press except when you don’t.
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8. He hasn't murdered anyone(Thanks Rudy)
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Originally posted by ExceedAndExcel ExceedAndExcel wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Shammy, this is the secret grand jury matter I have been telling you about. It was back in court today. Clearing an entire floor of the building to conceal the identity of the participants is a big deal.  Sounds like a big fish being handled with care here.


 


Why’s it all secret? I thought Shammy told us justice takes place in public over there?


That was yesterday
And Cardinal Pell's case is secret because . . .? And Mueller's memo means what to the judge at this moment? The judge wants all of the FBI/Mueller evidence. Don't start any your orgasmic screaming until the judge rules.
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Originally posted by Shammy Davis Shammy Davis wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by ExceedAndExcel ExceedAndExcel wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Shammy, this is the secret grand jury matter I have been telling you about. It was back in court today. Clearing an entire floor of the building to conceal the identity of the participants is a big deal.  Sounds like a big fish being handled with care here.


 


Why’s it all secret? I thought Shammy told us justice takes place in public over there?


That was yesterday
And Cardinal Pell's case is secret because . . .? And Mueller's memo means what to the judge at this moment? The judge wants all of the FBI/Mueller evidence. Don't start any your orgasmic screaming until the judge rules.

As explained yesterday, it is because there are a series of trials involving him and the court doesn't want the following trials influenced by knowledge of the outcome of the preceding trials. Mostly for protection of his legal rights and presumption on innocence. 

There is an opening for you Shammy...you are welcome. LOL
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Manafort's first trial in VA was public when he had a subsequent trial scheduled in DC. He probably would have preferred a change of venue to OZ. There are exceptions, but justice prevails in the states because it is public.
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Manafort having 2 trials was at his and his legal teams request, but I get your point.

The second Pell trial wont have the same suppression applied, will be reported on and the details of the first trial made public following it.


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Quote Australia recognises West Jerusalem as Israel's capital but holds back on embassy move.

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Another example of Australia's courage on the international stage. I guess half and half is better than nothing.
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Quote Australia recognises West Jerusalem as Israel's capital but holds back on embassy move.

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Another example of Australia's courage on the international stage. I guess half and half is better than nothing.




You should start a new thread for discussion of all of Australia’s failings. Or use the existing one, think it’s called “LNP Government”.

Your posts here are nothing but embarrassing attempts to deflect because you have an inability to intelligently debate any of the points made. All you have are variants of the “but Hillary” defence.
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We have whack-job far right govt here too Shammy. This idiot Morrison stole the PM job, the only way he could ever get it. He is a Trump wannabe who thinks that if they are to be decimated at the election, they will, as Trump has done, define a small base and try to reshape a proper conservative party in their own image. He was handed his minute scrotum on a plate on a recent visit to Jakarta on the Jerusalem issue, so has decided half pregnant is good enough. He is a total embarrassment but will thankfully be gone soon. 
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What about the new Chief of Staff?

Almost needless to say an ultra-conservative Tea Party nut job.

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He is only ''acting'' COS The list of applicants Donny has to work through is so long and Kelly going on Jan 3rd so Trump had to name a temp. 

Either that or Mick Mulvaney lost the game of musical chairs and is it, but just doesn't know it yet.
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We have whack-job far right govt here too Shammy. This idiot Morrison stole the PM job, the only way he could ever get it. He is a Trump wannabe who thinks that if they are to be decimated at the election, they will, as Trump has done, define a small base and try to reshape a proper conservative party in their own image. He was handed his minute scrotum on a plate on a recent visit to Jakarta on the Jerusalem issue, so has decided half pregnant is good enough. He is a total embarrassment but will thankfully be gone soon. 

    Stole the Job. ?   That was stolen from Abbott.

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Quote Hillary defence.

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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

We have whack-job far right govt here too Shammy. This idiot Morrison stole the PM job, the only way he could ever get it. He is a Trump wannabe who thinks that if they are to be decimated at the election, they will, as Trump has done, define a small base and try to reshape a proper conservative party in their own image. He was handed his minute scrotum on a plate on a recent visit to Jakarta on the Jerusalem issue, so has decided half pregnant is good enough. He is a total embarrassment but will thankfully be gone soon. 

    Stole the Job. ?   That was stolen from Abbott.

Yr a True lefty PT .     

A mercy killing.
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