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Everybody knows that Donald J Trump is the true voice of conservatism.Wacko
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I will get the last laugh and I will enjoy it to the fullest.
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What state do you live in? I've got relatives who live in Texas and Missouri and a couple of dangerous pinkos who live in California.
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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

What state do you live in? I've got relatives who live in Texas and Missouri and a couple of dangerous pinkos who live in California.
When a dumb-ass liberal loses their ability to make a coherent argument they, as in your case, make threats. Or as Charles Krauthammer once said, regress to speak in "isms."
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From memory Charles never put an insult in every comment he made Shammy.Wink


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Originally posted by Shammy Davis Shammy Davis wrote:

Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

What state do you live in? I've got relatives who live in Texas and Missouri and a couple of dangerous pinkos who live in California.
When a dumb-ass liberal loses their ability to make a coherent argument they, as in your case, make threats. Or as Charles Krauthammer once said, regress to speak in "isms."



What threat?
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Shammy, whether that particular girl is now separated from her mother or not doesn't matter, that girl is a very effective symbol of an abomination that is diminishing your country every day, and only because the tax cuts are not holding up with Trump supporters and he needs a dog whistle to drive his base into frightening Republicans into not impeaching him, should a Senate trial eventuate.  

What about the other 2299 kids, are they all crisis actors as well?

Is it true that Republicans are in blind panic and finally stood up to Trump because internal polling was showing 100 seats flipping in 5 months over this issue?

Typical full of gelati leftard response.Dead

If it was a "Fake Tradie", you Socialist Snowflakes would be OUTRAGED!!! CryCryCry

... and going "ReeeeReeeeRrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!" all the way home!Pig 
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

From memory Charles never put an insult in every comment he made Shammy.Wink


You could learn from that. By the way, Charles Krauthammer said that Fox News was best and most credible of all the networks.
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Originally posted by Shammy Davis Shammy Davis wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

From memory Charles never put an insult in every comment he made Shammy.Wink


You could learn from that. By the way, Charles Krauthammer said that Fox News was best and most credible of all the networks.

He clearly wasn't infallible, and had a capacity for bias as we saw in his Decline As A Choice treatment of his view of the Obama Doctrine. The Obama Administration saw what many conservative thinkers including Charles missed, the rise of China.Their foreign policy reflected that. 
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

If 95% of Republicans really supported Trump on separation of families for life for immigration misdemeanours, rather than criminal activity, he wouldn't have walked it back. Nor would Republicans church leaders(Sessions lying walk-back was embarrassing), even Fox commentators.

This issue is rising above politics, it is a moral issue, something Trump does not want elections fought on.

I dont believe that all or even a majority of conservative Republicans have abandoned their values to be Trumpers, nor have Obama/Obama/Trump voters. There will be a time very soon when they have to decide where their value system really resides. 

George Will overnight was the latest of a long line of high profile Republicans handing back their Republican memberships. Very timely with the death of the great Conservative commentator Charles Krauthammer overnight who said that Trump was morally unfit to be President. 

The midterm and next Presidential election will be as much a battle for the identity of the Republican Party, as it is a Rep vs Dem election. This is why Dems are sitting back watching Republicans self destruct. If Republicans dont get their act together, this will be a major series of  realigning elections coming up.

Your pathetic pedantics just become more laughable when you are losing biglyLOL 

... now that you have realised there are no honest "Regressive Leftard" commentators to quote, you have become so desperate, you have to quote a dead man?Embarrassed

You're right though, it's a morality issue, it's about border security, and immoral illegals who must be stopped ... BUT the Democrates want to reward the rapists and murderers who manage to cross the border, by setting them free ... it's a shame they cant just sink turn back the boats, eh?Wink 
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by Shammy Davis Shammy Davis wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

From memory Charles never put an insult in every comment he made Shammy.Wink


You could learn from that. By the way, Charles Krauthammer said that Fox News was best and most credible of all the networks.

He clearly wasn't infallible, and had a capacity for bias as we saw in his Decline As A Choice treatment of his view of the Obama Doctrine. The Obama Administration saw what many conservative thinkers including Charles missed, the rise of China.Their foreign policy reflected that. 

Originally a supporter of the Regressive Left (as all brainwashed uni students are) ... he did recover from that!Tongue
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by Shammy Davis Shammy Davis wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

From memory Charles never put an insult in every comment he made Shammy.Wink


You could learn from that. By the way, Charles Krauthammer said that Fox News was best and most credible of all the networks.


He clearly wasn't infallible, and had a capacity for bias as we saw in his Decline As A Choice treatment of his view of the Obama Doctrine. The Obama Administration saw what many conservative thinkers including Charles missed, the rise of China.Their foreign policy reflected that. 
When are you going to cease your cut and paste biased misrepresented posting? Specifically, the TIME cover and article was proven disingenuous to support an agenda, not factual reporting on the part of TIME. These are lies and those that support this quality of journalism, regardless of politics, is a failure of moral honest character.
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Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by Shammy Davis Shammy Davis wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

From memory Charles never put an insult in every comment he made Shammy.Wink


You could learn from that. By the way, Charles Krauthammer said that Fox News was best and most credible of all the networks.


He clearly wasn't infallible, and had a capacity for bias as we saw in his Decline As A Choice treatment of his view of the Obama Doctrine. The Obama Administration saw what many conservative thinkers including Charles missed, the rise of China.Their foreign policy reflected that. 


Originally a supporter of the Regressive Left (as all brainwashed uni students are) ... he did recover from that!Tongue
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Doesn't look like Donny and Kimmy are besties anymore. 
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But what about world peace?
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Just saw this on my Twitter feed and thought Kimmy had let one go at Guam.. 


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If We Want to End the Border Crisis, It’s Time to Give Trump His Wall




I agree 100% with this article.Thumbs Up
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I thought Mexico were paying for it.

He wont be there much longer. Everyone is just sitting tight to see him off. 
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It’s estimated that by crossing the border, a Mexican labourer becomes 10-20 times more productive. Not that their working harder- it’s just the in built differences in economies. It’s like the drug trade- staggering to me that anyone could think a wall will actually work.
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Republicans dont, or he would have it by now.
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What a Silly mistake
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Yeah I tho Got so

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So give him his f#cking wall. He won the election. He is owed this. It may never be completed; it may not work, as hoped. But it is now the only way to reassure a critical mass of Americans that mass immigration is under control, and the only way to make any progress under this president. And until the white working and middle classes are reassured, we will get nowhere. Don’t give it to him for nothing, of course. It should come with a full path to citizenship for all DACA immigrants, as in the proposed deal in January that Trump first liked and then reneged on, under Miller’s toxic influence. But it should also go bigger: a legislative fix for Flores; massive new funding for detention facilities, humane family-friendly housing, and, above all, much more money for the immigration legal system, now completely overwhelmed by asylum cases. If Democrats can show they want to deal with the humanitarian problem as a whole, and are willing to compromise on the wall, they’ll be in a much stronger position going forward than in the recent past.
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And this is what Miller and Bannon want. They want to turn the fall elections and the next presidential contest into a polarizing, fearmongering referendum on illegal immigration. They don’t mind the current hysterical atmosphere or the brutality that occasioned it. They relish both because they believe that immigration is the issue of the future, and that, in the end, if passions run high, it will be to their advantage. Looking at the rest of the West right now, I suspect they’re more right than wrong. Which means to say: Don’t give them this issue. Do the work to defuse it. And do it sooner rather than later.

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You mean like the way Republicans respected Obama's mandate for 8 years?
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Great advertisement for democracy, isn’t it? Do something pointless and stupid because it might be less painful politically.
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

I thought Mexico were paying for it.

He wont be there much longer. Everyone is just sitting tight to see him off. 

So the people spoke, and the sooks just keep on denying it ... Cry
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It’s estimated that by crossing the border, a Mexican labourer becomes 10-20 times more productive. Not that their working harder- it’s just the in built differences in economies. It’s like the drug trade- staggering to me that anyone could think a wall will actually work.

I agree Judge, just pussy footing around with these dangerous criminals will never stop them invading their country ... they really need to adopt the Israeli approach.Thumbs Up
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So give him his f#cking wall. He won the election. He is owed this. It may never be completed; it may not work, as hoped. But it is now the only way to reassure a critical mass of Americans that mass immigration is under control, and the only way to make any progress under this president. And until the white working and middle classes are reassured, we will get nowhere. Don’t give it to him for nothing, of course. It should come with a full path to citizenship for all DACA immigrants, as in the proposed deal in January that Trump first liked and then reneged on, under Miller’s toxic influence. But it should also go bigger: a legislative fix for Flores; massive new funding for detention facilities, humane family-friendly housing, and, above all, much more money for the immigration legal system, now completely overwhelmed by asylum cases. If Democrats can show they want to deal with the humanitarian problem as a whole, and are willing to compromise on the wall, they’ll be in a much stronger position going forward than in the recent past.

It's only fair - they approved the money when Obama wanted it for troops to secure the border, and for border wall improvements.

The Democrats are as Trump describes them, a party of disruption, with no ideas ... they offer nothing ... they will be in the wilderness for decades to come, because the only stand for screeching "Rrrrreeeeeeee!" at anything the GOP proposes.Ouch
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