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"The citizens accept the rule of the majority"

That sounds like something from Orwell..or a Dalek
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...gawd you're dumb...
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Guys, Donald just tweeted that Russia said the allegations are false, so I guess that's case closed.
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Yeah , but,  have all the yanks , the really outspoken famous ones against Trump , like Streep, who said up front they would be GOOOOOONE,  if Trump got in,  left America yet ??  
We should be seeing a mass exodus, like rats deserting a sinking ship. 
But is it happening ????   Have any of them gone yet ??  Or even made a move ?? 
If not, why not ??   Whats their problem ? Why havnt they packed up and moved on , or out ??  
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Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

In a civilised democracy, the citizens accept the rule of the majority, if they are true patriots.


But more voted for HRC than for DJT so really what you ar saying is that the majority must accept the rule of the minority.
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Teams have won World Cups on penalty shoot outs ... the rules are the rules, gotta accept the umpires decision ... or just invade the pitch like the sooky la la lefties in the states are doing!Cry
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Originally posted by acacia alba acacia alba wrote:

Yeah , but,  have all the yanks , the really outspoken famous ones against Trump , like Streep, who said up front they would be GOOOOOONE,  if Trump got in,  left America yet ??  
We should be seeing a mass exodus, like rats deserting a sinking ship. 
But is it happening ????   Have any of them gone yet ??  Or even made a move ?? 
If not, why not ??   Whats their problem ? Why havnt they packed up and moved on , or out ??  

 pretty sure Meryl didn't say she'd leave... Whoopi, Rosie O'Donnell and the other woman from the View piped up...but Whoopi has said she's staying to watch him implode...

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Any sign of those promised tax returns?

They should a fair way to sorting out those fake claims of business links to Russia, or is that the problem?
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Donalds friends in the Kremlin have backed up their candidate's version....case closed comrades 


Russia just said the unverified report paid for by political opponents is "A COMPLETE AND TOTAL FABRICATION, UTTER NONSENSE." Very unfair!

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If this stuff had any credibility and it was doing the rounds all year why wasn't it published by anyone during the campaign?
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Why didn't Trump go anywhere near Bill Clinton and his alleged sexual deviations involving Jeffrey Epstein? Would have been pretty damaging stuff, and after-all he threw everything else at Clinton. Why not go there? Because the same reports suggested that Trump was involved too?

This may or may not have foundation but there is enough other stuff to give this air. 
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Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

hey sure are undemocratic, nasty, hateful, abusive, vindictive people when they don't get their own way!!

Mr Donald Trump on the other hand takes the slightest setback or defeat so well Unhappy

He deserves everything he is copping and more

... and there you have it ... HE WON THE ELECTION WHALE, fiddlesticks ... WHERE WERE YOU! ... the accepted convention in a democracy, especially the US, is that once the battle is over, everyone supports the Commander In Chief!

... but not these unpatriotic spineless bastards, they are still in denial, and picking fights in the street ... speaks volumes of your character that you just blindly support this kind of anarchy ... UNDEMOCRATIC, NASTY, HATEFUL, ABUSIVE and VINDICTIVE. 



ho hum

Donald Trump Freaks Out on Twitter After Obama Wins Election


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...not to mention years of fronting the "birther" movement.
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Dont you understand Whale? 

If a RWNJ says the exact same thing as a SJW, the RWNJ is simply expressing his freedoms and his concerns for the republic and gun toting flag waving patriots.  

The SJW, on the other hand is just a subversive UNDEMOCRATIC, NASTY, HATEFUL, ABUSIVE and VINDICTIVE hack who hates democracy.....simples Wink
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What do Putin, Rex Tillertson(soon to be Trump's SOS), Rosneft, Exxon, Ukraine and Obama have in common?
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Trump was complaining about fake news at his press conference , the man who has made an art form of it Confused

Godwin's Theory has struck, LOL

Donald Trump: It's a disgrace the intelligence agencies allowed false news out - it's like Nazi Germany


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Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

hey sure are undemocratic, nasty, hateful, abusive, vindictive people when they don't get their own way!!

Mr Donald Trump on the other hand takes the slightest setback or defeat so well Unhappy

He deserves everything he is copping and more

... and there you have it ... HE WON THE ELECTION WHALE, fiddlesticks ... WHERE WERE YOU! ... the accepted convention in a democracy, especially the US, is that once the battle is over, everyone supports the Commander In Chief!

... but not these unpatriotic spineless bastards, they are still in denial, and picking fights in the street ... speaks volumes of your character that you just blindly support this kind of anarchy ... UNDEMOCRATIC, NASTY, HATEFUL, ABUSIVE and VINDICTIVE. 



ho hum

Donald Trump Freaks Out on Twitter After Obama Wins Election


http://mashable.com/2012/11/06/trump-reacts-to-election/#9fLyUxyosuqc




White Supremacist Rage Boils Over After Obama Victory; Racist Site Crashes After Election 

New York, NY, November 10, 2008 … In the aftermath of the election victory of Barack Obama, white supremacists rushed to online discussion forums to vent anger and disbelief that voters had chosen an African-American candidate as the next president of the United States.

The Anti-Defamation League (ADL), which monitors and exposes extremist activity and rhetoric, said anger among white supremacists and other right-wing extremists in response to Obama's victory resulted in an avalanche of vitriolic postings on racist Web sites.  At one point, the chatter so overloaded the server of the most popular white supremacist Internet forum, Stormfront, that the site was temporarily shut down.

According to ADL, racists are incredulous that Obama was elected primarily by white voters and are seething with anger at the prospect of an America led by an African-American man.

"We always expect a reaction from the bigots when events occur that they believe are contrary to their interests and worldview," said Abraham H. Foxman, ADL National Director.  "While it's clear that race didn't matter to the vast majority of the American people in this election, race matters to racists."

Mr. Foxman added: "The amount of invective, anger and rage being vented on white supremacist sites in the aftermath of the election is startling.  Many racists are convinced that President-elect Obama's achievement means that whites have lost their place in America, and they are predicting the beginning of a race war."

The League has posted a sampling of comments from white supremacist online discussion boards and Internet forums on its Web site.

Well-known extremists, like former Klan leader David Duke, as well as anonymous individuals online blamed everyone from white "traitors" to Jews, minorities, and Republicans for bringing about this event and destroying their vision of a race-divided America.

The white supremacist chatter on the election has focused on several themes:

•  "Tragedy" for America: White supremacist and former Klansman David Duke announced on an Internet radio show on election night that, "I believe tonight is a night of tragedy and sadness for our people in many ways … the country is not recognizable any more."

•  Predicting a "Race War:"  While some racists announced that they would leave the United States, others suggested that Obama's election win would provide a catalyst that would move whites to become active racists.  Some predicted the election would prove a boon to racist recruitment efforts.  Still others suggested they were planning on arming themselves with guns and ammunition to defend themselves in a coming "race war."

•  Calls to Violence:  While making no direct threats against the president-elect, some white supremacists expressed a hope that Obama would be killed or die while in office. One racist referred to a recent alleged plot by neo-Nazi skinheads to kill Obama and minorities, expressing a hope that someone else would carry out an assassination attempt: "… hopefully he'll get assassinated before he gets into office.  Just don't be (expletive) idiots about it like those skinheads were," wrote "Trellen R."  An anonymous poster on white supremacist Hal Turner's blog went further: "Someone will kill him!  And I will celebrate!  It's just a matter of time."

•  Blaming Jews: Not surprisingly, many white supremacists are blaming Jews, suggesting that Jews control U.S. government and media and promote multiculturalism. Others suggested Jews exercised control over the Obama campaign and the Democratic Party.

 


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Rex Tillerson, a Candidate for Secretary of State, Has Ties to Vladimir Putin

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Dr E there has not been a reaction to a president elect in living memory anything like this. Does it occur to you in a rare moment of clarity that it may be somewhat justified  ?
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Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:


hey sure are undemocratic, nasty, hateful, abusive, vindictive people when they don't get their own way!!


Mr Donald Trump on the other hand takes the slightest setback or defeat so well Unhappy

He deserves everything he is copping and more


... and there you have it ... HE WON THE ELECTION WHALE, fiddlesticks ... WHERE WERE YOU! ... the accepted convention in a democracy, especially the US, is that once the battle is over, everyone supports the Commander In Chief!

... but not these unpatriotic spineless bastards, they are still in denial, and picking fights in the street ... speaks volumes of your character that you just blindly support this kind of anarchy ... UNDEMOCRATIC, NASTY, HATEFUL, ABUSIVE and VINDICTIVE. 



Did your mob support Obama ?





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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:


hey sure are undemocratic, nasty, hateful, abusive, vindictive people when they don't get their own way!!


Mr Donald Trump on the other hand takes the slightest setback or defeat so well Unhappy

He deserves everything he is copping and more


... and there you have it ... HE WON THE ELECTION WHALE, fiddlesticks ... WHERE WERE YOU! ... the accepted convention in a democracy, especially the US, is that once the battle is over, everyone supports the Commander In Chief!

... but not these unpatriotic spineless bastards, they are still in denial, and picking fights in the street ... speaks volumes of your character that you just blindly support this kind of anarchy ... UNDEMOCRATIC, NASTY, HATEFUL, ABUSIVE and VINDICTIVE. 



Did your mob support Obama ?




I don't have a "mob" djebel, and just be careful, that language could be construed as racist by some of the hand wringersWink
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that whole trump presser was gold . certified lunatic. psychopath.

wikilieaks are saying the buzzfeed story is bs. Wiki have a 100% record of authentication. id believe them over anyone else. as for believing in usa intelligence...why should we. they are almost as unbelievable as trump. track record of lies and deception.

And this is the mess thats been created. Well before trump. trump wants everyone to believe that everything is fake news unless it comes out of his mouth. he is the only source of truth.

so it becomes just like the vote - who is the lesser of two evils. or three, four, five. thats the predicament we are in with news now.
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Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

Dr E there has not been a reaction to a president elect in living memory anything like this. Does it occur to you in a rare moment of clarity that it may be somewhat justified  ?

I had considered that Whale, and the consistent, biased, and obviously choreographed (by whom?) media attacks and sensational exposes on him over the duration of the campaign were certainly unprecedented, and fed the socialist mantra. (further evidence of just how "on the nose" the Clintons and Obama's were, but that's another story!).

However, I conclude that the biggest influence was Social media, and more so since the election result.

Social media has given the SJW's the illusion that they are the only voice of any importance on many subjects, since they feed off each other's anguish, outrage and disgust, about anything that is not aligned to their agenda - virtually unopposed.

Why is that? 

The analysts all agree, the vast majority of conservatives, and particularly Trumps "rustbelt" supporter demographic, hardly use twitter or facebook at all, and they certainly don't spend time on the rabid left wing socialist sites ... everyone knows that rednecks only use the internet to look up football and MMA results and for porn!

Accordingly they were blissfully unaware of the "demon" that the left wing nutters had determined Trump to be (rightly or wrongly!). Sure, they got their daily news grabs, but they were unaffected by that, as they became immune to the Commercial media's bias - they didn't care, and it actually galvanized their resolve to rail against the lying, elitist political class and the biased media's lies. The democrat supporters were effectively all agreeing amongst themselves on like minded internet sites and forums, there was little opposition, and now, they are all in denial, spend endless hours online, hand wringing, bitching and complaining, and consoling themselves. Then, ever other day, they have the likes of Obama stirring up gelati, trying to vindicate himself and deflect from the fact that he was a contributing factor of the "backlash", or a celeb like Meryl Streep regularly fanning the flames, so they continue, unabated, to whip themselves int a frenzy about it!

Just my opinion ... of course it could well be that he is the worst person to ever contest an election for anything anywhere, but everything I mentioned makes it impossible to judge that fairly ... no other US election in history has been fought under these "rules".
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Interesting to see Fox News defending CNN after being called out by Trump last night. Don't see that too often Shocked
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Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

Dr E there has not been a reaction to a president elect in living memory anything like this. Does it occur to you in a rare moment of clarity that it may be somewhat justified  ?

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However, I conclude that the biggest influence was Social media, and more so since the election result.

Social media has given the SJW's the illusion that they are the only voice of any importance on many subjects,
Why is that? 

The analysts all agree, the vast majority of conservatives, and particularly Trumps "rustbelt" supporter demographic, hardly use twitter or facebook at all,




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He threw them some crums, and the medai throng were salivating at the chance to actually do some journalism, and he simply waved the CNN guy away "not you, fake news" LOL 

The main stream media in general are really frustrated, and angry - nobody has snubbed them like he does - and he doesn't need them whilst he has his twitter account. 

Interestingly, his "minders" seem to have either given up on the twitter "bans" or any real attempt to screen his output, or they have realised it works for him - dare say the latter.
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Whale, in the history of US election, name one candidate who was ever subjected to the same amount of scrutiny as Trump was?

No one, and not for lack of try on the part of their opponents or vested interests.

My point is that the intrusive technology, and as I said, in particular social media, plus iphones, instant news feeds, etc have never enabled anything like it.

I wonder how Bill Clinton would have fared today??? ... or even JFK!!! ... plenty of dirt between those two, if you wanted them scorned by the bible beltWink

... and you could be right too, just a twit ... but is that the new black!?Confused
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I watch the recorded, 1hr 7.30 SBS news when I'm in bed & for the last 2 yrs, the 1st 20 mins is nothing but bloody US politics, for Censored sake, it can't be that important! Well it's not to me anyway Angry
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