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Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

   I get a feeling you don't like Donald Trump PT.

Looks like Shammy has given up trying to educate the impossible of TBV.no

A big " I told you so " as History unfolds.    


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... is Trump in jail yet?

How many unhinged Republicans have taken a pot shot at a Democrat to date?Wacko
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Welcome Shammy & Dr E .       The silence on this thread is deafening at the moment.

   I think the haters might have let their powder get wet ...   Not many shots being fired.
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Be patient maxie, it will happen when it happens, but at the moment in this race they are still in the enclosure only a couple of jockeys have even mounted up, yet Republicans are already calling for correct weight, and like a couple of cobalt accused trainers here are trying to discredit the rules and the stewards. 

Innocent people would just go about their usual business and welcome an investigation into attempts to control US elections by foreign enemies and anyone who colluded with them. 

Real patriots would want that anyway. 
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How is Don's ''great guy'' Mike Flynn holding up? He sure has a bad memory, I am worried for him. Hopefully he will get specialist treatment in prison. 
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Be patient maxie, it will happen when it happens, but at the moment in this race they are still in the enclosure only a couple of jockeys have even mounted up, yet Republicans are already calling for correct weight, and like a couple of cobalt accused trainers here are trying to discredit the rules and the stewards. 

Innocent people would just go about their usual business and welcome an investigation into attempts to control US elections by foreign enemies and anyone who colluded with them. 

Real patriots would want that anyway. 


are you in the innocent people party who welcome an investigation into the 81 times the usa attempted or did control foreign elections? or did you declare correct weight and move on?

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For the sake of the mentally impaired who cannot follow simple logic - I don't work on the brakes, that's a mechanics job. I have no emotional response to their work either.
I repair the dints made by tweeters and bloggers fiddling with their mobile phones while driving. You don't post your dribble while driving do you Whale?  If so you're likely to be charged before Donald Dump.
 
Wouldn't that be funny? LOL
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Originally posted by ThreeBears ThreeBears wrote:

For the sake of the mentally impaired who cannot follow simple logic - I don't work on the brakes, that's a mechanics job. I have no emotional response to their work either.
I repair the dints made by tweeters and bloggers fiddling with their mobile phones while driving. You don't post your dribble while driving do you Whale?  If so you're likely to be charged before Donald Dump.
 
Wouldn't that be funny? LOL


I know you don't repair brakes but it made for a good line i thought Smile

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Originally posted by cabosanlucas cabosanlucas wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Be patient maxie, it will happen when it happens, but at the moment in this race they are still in the enclosure only a couple of jockeys have even mounted up, yet Republicans are already calling for correct weight, and like a couple of cobalt accused trainers here are trying to discredit the rules and the stewards. 

Innocent people would just go about their usual business and welcome an investigation into attempts to control US elections by foreign enemies and anyone who colluded with them. 

Real patriots would want that anyway. 


are you in the innocent people party who welcome an investigation into the 81 times the usa attempted or did control foreign elections? or did you declare correct weight and move on?


Dont forget Nicaragua Wink
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by cabosanlucas cabosanlucas wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Be patient maxie, it will happen when it happens, but at the moment in this race they are still in the enclosure only a couple of jockeys have even mounted up, yet Republicans are already calling for correct weight, and like a couple of cobalt accused trainers here are trying to discredit the rules and the stewards. 

Innocent people would just go about their usual business and welcome an investigation into attempts to control US elections by foreign enemies and anyone who colluded with them. 

Real patriots would want that anyway. 


are you in the innocent people party who welcome an investigation into the 81 times the usa attempted or did control foreign elections? or did you declare correct weight and move on?



Dont forget Nicaragua Wink


you didnt forget to deflect. run rabbit run. 🐰
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Originally posted by cabosanlucas cabosanlucas wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by cabosanlucas cabosanlucas wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Be patient maxie, it will happen when it happens, but at the moment in this race they are still in the enclosure only a couple of jockeys have even mounted up, yet Republicans are already calling for correct weight, and like a couple of cobalt accused trainers here are trying to discredit the rules and the stewards. 

Innocent people would just go about their usual business and welcome an investigation into attempts to control US elections by foreign enemies and anyone who colluded with them. 

Real patriots would want that anyway. 


are you in the innocent people party who welcome an investigation into the 81 times the usa attempted or did control foreign elections? or did you declare correct weight and move on?



Dont forget Nicaragua Wink


you didnt forget to deflect. run rabbit run. 🐰

Sorry I thought it was just another of your silly ''USA does it so it is ok for my Russian friends to do it back''. 

As Putin said last week if you close your eyes and point to anywhere on a globe, your finger will point to a country in whose elections the US interferes. Ok, probably true,  but do you want Russia to do the same and take over the running of the world?
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by cabosanlucas cabosanlucas wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by cabosanlucas cabosanlucas wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Be patient maxie, it will happen when it happens, but at the moment in this race they are still in the enclosure only a couple of jockeys have even mounted up, yet Republicans are already calling for correct weight, and like a couple of cobalt accused trainers here are trying to discredit the rules and the stewards. 

Innocent people would just go about their usual business and welcome an investigation into attempts to control US elections by foreign enemies and anyone who colluded with them. 

Real patriots would want that anyway. 


are you in the innocent people party who welcome an investigation into the 81 times the usa attempted or did control foreign elections? or did you declare correct weight and move on?



Dont forget Nicaragua Wink


you didnt forget to deflect. run rabbit run. 🐰


Sorry I thought it was just another of your silly ''USA does it so it is ok for my Russian friends to do it back''. 

As Putin said last week if you close your eyes and point to anywhere on a globe, your finger will point to a country in whose elections the US interferes. Ok, probably true,  but do you want Russia to do the same and take over the running of the world?


putin is spot on. its not a tit for tat argument as much one of 'nothing to see here, dont worry about when we do it, just when russia does. we = usa and its followers.

you seem a stickler for law and justice and all that. just not a believer in international law eh? or you just want it applied to russia??

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and please refrain from callng anything i say as silly when you give us the hysterical, ludicrous "do you really wasnt russia ruling the world" garbage
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Dont want to answer? No problemo 


No, go ahead with the answer. im all ears...🐰
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If an investigation is held, who will hold it, what will be the consequences of a finding of the bleeding obvious? I would love that investigation.

Now for about the 8th time, after your inquiry and when the USA is in prison for interfering in 81 elections worldwide,  who do you want looking after our interests and in charge of world order?
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

If an investigation is held, who will hold it, what will be the consequences of a finding of the bleeding obvious? I would love that investigation.

Now for about the 8th time, after your inquiry and when the USA is in prison for interfering in 81 elections worldwide,  who do you want looking after our interests and in charge of world order?


Ok. so international law applies to everyone except the usa. because as the dominant power, they are above the law. cool.

Countries dont go to prison, people do. violate serious laws, pay the price. thats the way justice on any level works.anyone else on your list as 'above the law' whilst you are at it?

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Another idealistic, absolutist, tree hugging greenie leftie LGBTQ(help me out here Doc, I cant remember the rest) response.

Can you answer my question?
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Another idealistic, absolutist, tree hugging greenie leftie LGBTQ(help me out here Doc, I cant remember the rest) response.

Can you answer my question?


I did. im a tree hugger now. trump will fire me.



just a reminder...it was a russian military officer who saved the worlds arse from kennedys 1 minute to midnight nuclear war. defcon 2 was inacted. scary hey?

effectively, russia allowed you, your mooted life of white privelege which you enjoy to this day.
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Another idealistic, absolutist, tree hugging greenie leftie LGBTQ(help me out here Doc, I cant remember the rest) response.

Can you answer my question?


dont mind me...you just wrote off sub and muttley in one post.   
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

,  but do you want Russia to do the same and take over the running of the world?


Given the direction the joints taken over the past few years.
It couldn't get any worseWink
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They are not perfect, nobody is, and they have surely lost their collective minds this year(or 45% who voted have)but that is being rectified, and they are still the best option for us long term. Russia, China...nope. 

They(China Russia) are important in maintaining balance but not leading. You need a balance of power to keep everyone honest and behaving within ''normal'' boundaries. The fall of the Soviet Union and the two pillars being reduced to one superpower is arguably a major contributor to the imbalances in the world today, and I welcome a second or third superpower to regain balance, but not at the expense of the US
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I think it's unfair that people are blaming Obama for this ... he simply never had the balls to get anything done ... an appropriate epitaph for his legacy ...

Trump got the kid home, albeit, the damage was doneUnhappy

Otto Warmbier: US student sent home from North Korea dies


The US student held in captivity for more than 15 months in North Korea has died a week after returning home.

Otto Warmbier, 22, was serving 15 years hard labour, accused of attempting to steal a propaganda sign from a hotel.

He was returned to the US last Tuesday, with North Korea saying it was on humanitarian grounds.

North Korea said he had been in a coma for a year after contracting botulism but his family say he was subjected to "awful torturous mistreatment".

A team of US doctors have also disputed North Korea's version of events.

Mr Warmbier had suffered severe brain damage, and was medically evacuated from North Korea on 13 June to a hospital in his home city of Cincinnati, Ohio. It is unclear how he fell ill.

A statement from the family on Monday said: "It is our sad duty to report that our son, Otto Warmbier, has completed his journey home. Surrounded by his loving family, Otto died today at 2:20pm."

They said the student had been "unable to speak, unable to see and unable to react to verbal commands".

"The awful torturous mistreatment our son received at the hands of the North Koreans ensured that no other outcome was possible beyond the sad one we experienced today."


Timeline of events

  • 30 Dec 2015 - Mr Warmbier travels from Beijing to Pyongyang with a tour group.
  • 2 Jan 2016 - He is arrested at Pyongyang International Airport as he tries to leave the country. Later that month, North Korea announces it is holding Mr Warmbier for a "hostile act".
  • 16 March 2016 - Mr Warmbier goes on trial in Pyongyang where he confesses to stealing a propaganda poster, and is sentenced to 15 years of hard labour. He is believed to have slipped into a coma shortly after his trial.
  • Early June 2017 - US officials and Mr Warmbier's parents are told about his condition
  • 13 June 2017 -He is released from North Korea and medically evacuated to the US. Doctors say he has suffered a severe brain injury.
  • 19 June 2017 - Mr Warmbier dies.

The economics student from the University of Virginia had travelled to North Korea as a tourist.

A month after his arrest, he appeared at a news conference tearfully confessing to trying to take a sign from his hotel as a "trophy" for a US church.

"The aim of my task was to harm the motivation and work ethic of the Korean people," he said.

Foreign detainees in North Korea have previously recanted confessions, saying they were made under pressure.

The company Mr Warmbier travelled with, China-based company Young Pioneer Tours, has announced it will no longer take visitors from the US to the country.

"The way his detention was handled was appalling and a tragedy like this must never be repeated," it said in a statement.

"Despite constant requests, we were denied any opportunity to meet him or anyone in contact with him in Pyongyang, only receiving assurances that he was fine."

'No sign of botulism'

North Korea said last week that it had released Mr Warmbier "on humanitarian grounds".

Shortly before he was freed, his parents told the Washington Post newspaper they had been informed by the North Korean authorities that their son had contracted botulism, a rare illness that causes paralysis, soon after his trial.

He was given a sleeping pill and had been in a coma ever since, the newspaper said.

But a team of doctors assessing him in Cincinnati said they had found "no sign of botulism".

Doctors confirmed that there was no sign he had been physically abused during his detention, based on scans.

They believe respiratory arrest led to his condition, which is caused by a lack of oxygen and blood in the brain.

President Donald Trump said Mr Warmbier's death had deepened his administration's resolve "to prevent such tragedies from befalling innocent people at the hands of regimes that do not respect the rule of law or basic human decency".

"The United States once again condemns the brutality of the North Korean regime as we mourn its latest victim," the presidential statement added.

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15 years for trying to steal a propaganda sign, that results in his death. Awful. 
Disgrace you try and turn this into some warped victory for Trump though.
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terribly sad story. his family must be devastated and livid with what went on.
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15 years for trying to steal a propaganda sign, that results in his death. Awful. 
Disgrace you try and turn this into some warped victory for Trump though.

So because I point out something positive that Trump has done, I'm more disgraceful than the murderous North Korean regime ...? Confused

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Welcome Shammy & Dr E .       The silence on this thread is deafening at the moment.

   I think the haters might have let their powder get wet ...   Not many shots being fired.


I was just waiting for one of PT's predictions to come true before commenting again. Of course this could mean this is my last post.
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Shammy, see the WaPo yesterday wrote about the Manafort grand jury I told you in May had been convened in the Eastern District of Virginia(even had the precinct right), but postponed due to Mueller wanting control over it. Also got the type of documents being subpoenad right, They are a month behind the story as all MSM have been since the beginning.

Does that count?

Did I tell you he and Mikey have both flipped? It was interesting reading yesterday about Mikey brokering a multi billion dollar deal for Saudi Arabia to get 8 nuclear reactors from Russia. No wonder he has developed a bad memory. He is going to prison for a long time. Funny how Donny took such a risk obstructing justice for his ''good guy'', when Trump shows loyalty to nobody. Wonder what Mikey has on him? 
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We've sure come a long way in a short time eh Shammy, from ''you and your nutty liberal wet dreams about Trump being investigated for anything'' to ''you will be sorry when you get President Pence''Wink

That can happen when people fall for a treasonous, corrupt idiot who thinks he and his rich corrupt friends are above the constitution, and the constitution and it's champions refuse to accept that proposition.

Deep State = rule of law


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We've sure come a long way in a short time eh Shammy, from ''you and your nutty liberal wet dreams about Trump being investigated for anything'' to ''you will be sorry when you get President Pence''Wink

That can happen when people fall for a treasonous, corrupt idiot who thinks he and his rich corrupt friends are above the constitution, and the constitution and it's champions refuse to accept that proposition.

Deep State = rule of law




well put.

rule of law eh.......(but international law doesnt count) . thats a waste.
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