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Now that the dust has settled I can get to watching some replays of today's 3YO races.
No doubt it will throw up a few that weren't previously considered a Grp 1 contender.

But from the results:
Flemington R2 gave us a couple at double figure odds 1st and 2nd. Only Sirconni from the favoured horses ran a decent race. The winner Snitzpeg was good but the run of the 2nd horse Bravo Tango was outstanding. Held up for an eternity and sprouted wings at the end.
Probably the only horse from the race I want to follow.

And then we were treated with a true Derby chance, again. Main Stage finished better than the rest to win like he'd go the Cup trip. If you've got one that can beat him you've got the Derby winner.
Cliff's Edge was good again but the 1800m found him out against a horse with true staying potential. Stablemate to the winner Johnny Jinko probably the only other one in the race I could consider a chance of running the Derby out strongly.

And the filly's race served up another surprise with Leather'N'Lace only managing 3rd behind Bring Me Roses and Hiyaam. Bring Me Roses was brilliant and no doubt the connections are looking at bigger prizes now. It always looked like a race to dodge and the result proved that these races can be traps.

Randwick was much more friendly to me after an absolute shocker in Melbourne.
I'll skip race 1 because I don't think there is a runner even likely to run in a Grp 1 race this spring.
But Viridine was outstanding winning the Roman Consul. He's now 4 from 4 and sure to have a Melbourne target. Once he took the rails run it was all over.
Single Bullet was strong again as was Beau Geste and Albumin so the punters had it right with the exception of Chauffeur who was very disappointing. The first 4 picked themselves though really.

Then the Grp 1 Spring Champion Stakes. And Ace High delivered another hard fought win. He was never in doubt and like last start gave another kick when he saw the challenger Tangled coming. He just won't lay down.
Sully made up some good ground and Sanctioned gave his usual honest run but Ace High just tingles class and guts.

Looking at the future Grp 1s, Trent Busuttin and Natalie Young have the strongest group of Derby runners than any trainer I've seen. Sully, Johnny Jinko and Main Stage look like being right in the mix.
Viridine is exceptional but the only Grp 1 race I can see him contesting is the Coolmore unless Godolphin decide to run him in the Manikato and Darley Classic. 3 bloody hard races to win.

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The two guineas races at Caulfield tomorrow take centre stage for the 3YOs.
The Thousand Guineas has a hot line up (even with Catchy taking on the boys) with Alizee, Shoals, Aloisia and Booker the leading contenders.
Alizee's Flight Stakes win has her the fav and again she looks a very good chance.
Shoals finished hard from the back of the field with Catchy last start to run 2nd to Booker. Both will probably race in the first 4 and with an 8 horse field the two swoopers Alizee and Aloisia will need to get fired up from or before the 600m.
Even with Catchy out this is still a great race. Alizee to win for me but both Shoals and Booker beat Catchy last start so can't be ignored.

In the Caulfield Guineas Catchy and Royal Symphony share favouritism. Both horses will be expected to finish off late and with RS ahead of her on speed maps it could come down to which one gets the best luck in running.
There will be enough speed for both with Perast, Sanctioned, Gold Standard, Showtime etc all looking for the early advantage. The leaders had a picnic last Caul meeting but Caulfield Guineas day usually has the track play evenly.

I'm sticking with Royal Symphony. Gold Standard, Catchy and Kementari the dangers imo.

And we have She Will Reign, Houtzen and Tulip running in the Everest.
SWR clearly the pick of the 3 to me and is a huge chance of stamping herself as a champion, not just for her age. She's only ever faced Open Grp 1 company before and came from 10th of 13 to win the Open Grp 1 Muir Stakes, and she'll be a lot closer tomorrow from a good draw.

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100/1 winner of the Guineas
40/1 winner of the Golden Rose
Seemingly a different winner every week in the lead ups.
Fillies better than colts as 2yos.

Do you think this might be a pretty average crop?
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I'm not writing any of the off yet Warrisymbol.

SWR missed the jump again and didn't win the Everest but either did 10 other runners.

For future 3YO Group 1 races.
Royal Symphony has emerged as a real Derby chance and Aloisia in the Oaks.
I'm already on both along with Main Stage.


Horse RacingMain Stage - @ 7.00 BOOSTED

Victoria Derby - Before Noms - Win or Each Way
Win or EW
Royal Symphony @ 11.00

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W'Symbol makes a point of the consistent failures of these "premature champions".   
How Stiff ,   IN HER TIME today . 1st reserve and doesn't make the Everest field .    Wins the Booby prize in faster time than Redzel ran ..   Both quick.
We are all guilty of the Hype crime and we never learn.    Best to say we have some very even , strong , consistent Gallopers going round ATM.
The win % average of the Everest field was over 40%. Good horses aye.
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Originally posted by scamanda scamanda wrote:

I'll have a crack at it. 

Golden Rose- Kementari, Menari ( presuming no Royal Symphony in Sydney)
Flight Stakes- Catchy, Alizee
Champion Stakes- Addictive Nature, Trekking
1000 Guineas- Whispered Secret, Catchy
Caulfield Guineas- Kementari, Royal Symphony
Vic Derby- Royal Symphony, Addictive Nature
Coolmore Stud- Menari, She Will Reign
Vic Oaks- Whispered Secret


Goes to show just how hard it is to land a dart in the bullseye so far out from the finals.
Just getting a runner can be nearly as hard.

Alizee winning and Kementari running 2nd the best I could do. I do have Main Stage going in the Derby and Aloisia in the Oaks at good odds but neither made to the initial short list.

The Coolmore has turned into the closest of 3YO Group 1 races I've ever seen.
Kementari back to the sprint after his Guineas run is at $15 and I think good EW value in a race that will have speed on from the time the gates open. Merchant Navy also at $15 is unbeaten in Vic, down the straight and at the distance. Viridine who I thought was the perfect horse for the Manikato is the early fav and I wouldn't want to take the $7.50 in this one out. Catchy, Trapeze Artist, Eptimum, Tulip, Formality, Invincible Star and Summer Passage all have claims and after the Guineas we can't deny any runner being a chance.

I'm on Kementari EW. If I take a saver it will be Merchant Navy EW or Formality EW.

The Derby has lost it's class horse with Royal Symphony running into trouble in the Cox Plate.
Main Stage at $7.50 and Ace High have been good to me and I'm on Main Stage to win. Ace High fav but that could change with some nice up and coming 3YOs in the race.
Sully, Tangled, Astoria, Weather With You, Greycliffe, and Oceans Fourteen make it an open race as usual. I'm looking at a save bet on Sully at $8.50.

And I'm more than likely to come up without a dividend.
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That's $7 for Main Stage.
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Originally posted by scamanda scamanda wrote:

Originally posted by scamanda scamanda wrote:

I'll have a crack at it. 






The Coolmore has turned into the closest of 3YO Group 1 races I've ever seen.
Kementari back to the sprint after his Guineas run is at $15 and I think good EW value in a race that will have speed on from the time the gates open. Merchant Navy also at $15 is unbeaten in Vic, down the straight and at the distance. Viridine who I thought was the perfect horse for the Manikato is the early fav and I wouldn't want to take the $7.50 in this one out. Catchy, Trapeze Artist, Eptimum, Tulip, Formality, Invincible Star and Summer Passage all have claims and after the Guineas we can't deny any runner being a chance.

I'm on Kementari EW. If I take a saver it will be Merchant Navy EW or Formality EW.



Confused I had the eventual fav Invincible Star in as a chance but left her out in favour of those at better odds.

Trifecta paid over 4K. No guts no glory though.
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Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

Money Maher, WA late Spring/early Summer and East Coast in the Autumn.  

Won a weak Northam maiden by 2 lengths today, giving them 7 lengths on the turn and running his last 600 in 33.34.  The initial post was more in jest than anything, however a WA Guineas win in November isn't entirely out of the question.  Wink 

Now 3 wins from 4 this time in, including Saturday's Listed Fairetha Stakes.  Next stop the WA Guineas, which is exciting stuff. 
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Good luck, sounds like you have a good one.
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And to think I though you were just blowing your own trumpet and spruiking your own breeding, and genuinely overrating how good this colt is. Explosive turn of foot and can run a quick sectional, and brilliant and easy win last start. Best of luck today in the WA guineas. Let’s hope he also goes on to much bigger and better things for you, although a win today will definitely put the icing on the cake 🏇🎂
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Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

Money Maher, WA late Spring/early Summer and East Coast in the Autumn.  


Won a weak Northam maiden by 2 lengths today, giving them 7 lengths on the turn and running his last 600 in 33.34.

The initial post was more in jest than anything, however a WA Guineas win in November isn't entirely out of the question.

ps hope Luva Punt got on.  Wink




Definitely a live chance in the WA Guineas, and from what I have read you and runfe.r will be there. Enjoy the day, and let’s hope he positions well in the run, gets clear running, and let’s down with that explosive turn of foot....... then your eyes are definitely light up at the 200m mark 👍
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Good luck today Second Chance.
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Just watched the replay of Money Maher's last start and I'm tipping SC's trip won't be in vain. Traffic the main problem.
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